your seeing thousands of people dyg on the roads right now that should not be and would no be if we did have these requirements to our regulations restrictions. john: more people die, but we get more mileage. next read, people is in the aut industry its regation. fights it intensely, but i noticed something weird when th fuel standard bill was announced . then heads of 13 car makers wer their shaking the president's hand and smiling. everybody looked so happy. what is that about? >> people team that tiara peopl tend to think that industry doe not want regulation but in this tree often supports regulation because it gives them competitive advantage. in this case there are a few of the automaker's there were in support of the rule. also, i think the industry, the face the threat oo different regulations in 50 different states, so this might have been a lesser of two evils. even if it is a $60 billion cost , if everyone had to do it, they could pass it on to consumers. john: just like with other industries, when you're heavily regulated, if you are a large company already making a profit y