there was an incident with dylan bruce who walked into the african-american church and killed nine individuals that still very hard incident to talk about what is heartbreaking to add to that the music that influenced is music you created over 25 years ago. i have a lot of empathy for you and at the same time from what led us here today is why? why are we doing this why are people so angry and so hateful? the question is how do you reconcile that and continue moving forward? >> that was not only devastating to the community and victims and families but a moment i will never forget. that was the tied shifting of our understanding. maybe last year when i first found out but i was doing an interview with a journalist and she showed me a printout of a listing that dylan had made on a white supremacist board and in that posting he just watched the documentary about skinheads and heard some music and saw a band perform and posted the lyrics to the website. i don't think she knew what she was showing me at the time. but i had to read it three times because it was very familiar the third time i realiz