they are talking back and forth again, dylan howard and gina rodriguez about "the daily mail" was interestedaniels' story. howard says, i will buy it, but i ain't got 250k. i can get 100. she says, what about 150k? he says, 110. next batch of texts, 125k. then lol, 120? back, sold. do you have understanding these all are texts october 8 in new york time? that would be east coast time zone. longstreet, yes. go back right into the texts. same october 9. i'm at dinner. i will email contract when i'm back at the hotel or by first thing in the a.m. okay. "daily mail" is offering 200. next batch. i haven't told them anything except what i put in the email yesterday. i have not responded. the next day's batch of texts include, never heard from you. stormy leaves tomorrow to go back home. d.m. wants it, too. okay, i will call you. scott, the back and forth is showing the evolution -- i mean, this stuff is -- this looks like one of those auctions that go on -- >> so transactional, isn't it? there's a price in the free market we can put on how much it's worth to keep the story buried. it really is alm

it is a pantomime where it's like dylan howard. if i'm in the jury i'm like where is this guy , we've heard he's in australia, he can't appear because of a spinal injury but he is a key player in all of this and he was the go-between between david pecker, michael cohen at times and keith davidson. it has been surreal and hearing some things, alex, that i had been whispering to france late at night in bars and say i think something is going on here. i think there is a wider conspiracy going on. the stories that we had, the doorman firstly, then karen mcdougal, now these covers and my friends would look at me and say you need to stop drinking and just chill out. you're sounding like a conspiracy theorist. the same friends have been calling me in the last several days and saying well, actually, i think you are right. >> there you go. i have really appreciated your insights. you are welcome back anytime. lachlan cartwright, thank you so much. >>> the impact of the arrests of a columbia university professor would be talking about that r

focusing on some email exchanges in the final days leading up to the election between keith davidson, dylan howardnd davidson is saying this, there was difficulty in communications with michael cohen and i and i had lost trust in what he was telling me, and dylan came in as the mediator because there was a question as to why dylan howard was helping mediate, helping organize the payoffs to both karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. steinglass asked why did you lose trust? and keith davidson says he was not telling me the truth. steinglass says about what? and davidson says delays in funding. if you remember back, ana, to both the indictment, the original indictment from the manhattan d.a. along with some of the testimony that we've heard so far in the last ten days or so, there are allegations that have been made that the former president, right, as the client of michael cohen was asking michael cohen to delay these payments until after the election because maybe they wouldn't have to pay out to stormy daniels and karen mcdougal if he won the election. it seems as if this is kind of what they're tryi

david pecker testified he is told dylan howard, do not get involved in this. i do not want any affiliation with a pornography start. also, i am not a bank. nonetheless, dylan howard did get involved and he got involved by involving keith davidson who had a prior relationship with stormy daniels' manager. herself described as an infamous story broker. this is the seamy underbelly of the world that david pecker took us through. this is a -- >> this is the wrong below the inquiry. it's too sketchy for us, the national enquirer. you need to run this as an off book operation because us, the national enquirer, find this to be too dubious. >> i'm glad to use sketchy because sketchy comes in mind when i think of keith davidson. he was not an easy witness for the prosecution. part of it is because he did not want to acknowledge his complicity in either of these deals. he was shadowy how he got involved representing stormy daniels in the first place. and the deal was resurrected after he told michael cohen in mid-october after cohen failed to fund the settlement. i'm ou

>> the access hollywood tape. >> how to dylan howard respond? >> he responded with a, waved the white flag, it's over people, explanation. >> how did you interpret that? >> i think he was second in my opinion. >> based on the access hollywood tape? >> yes." eventually, the national enquirer back down keith davidson had to negotiate directly for hush money payments that were paid directly to stormy daniels. when they were struggling to finalize the deal that michael coll and was not ready to make those payments, he said, "what you expect me to do? my guy is in five states today or three or four or five different states today. is nothing i can do. i'm doing everything i can. >> when he said that "his guy" was in a certain number of states, who did you understand that to refer to? >> donald trump." stomach leading off, -- >>> we are leading off now, with analysis. >> adam, first of all, when i saw that the judge ruled on the contempt, i was very interested to see the transcript because i wanted to see what he would say about it before he issued his

cohen has been shown more taxi exchange with dylan howard from the national enquirer. he puts his glasses on before he reads the text for the jury this is actually what the trial is about. michael cohen covering up the stormy daniels matter and the falsification of business records. >> it is. i mean, it's document case. it's not a sex case, per say, or anything else to george's point about the politics of this, there is some evidence of that and i was talking to a trump adviser this morning. the reason that the senators and the iowa attorney general and the congresswoman are in the courtroom there because the campaign put out an all call to anyone with any connection to new york or law enforcement or in an official light capacity to come and join him at the trial. we know he's been very upset that he's been alone on sundays. all that has changed now. so seeing the iowa attorney general, who endorsed him and is eager, obviously, for a potential appointments should he win? i thought that was very interesting. today is different in that respect. he is surrounded by people

keith davidson texts dylan howard, quote, what have we done.recognize the significance as well. they call it galos humor but there was a mutual understanding that their activities had assisted trump. we'll never know if this effort to hoodwink voters worked but that's not something we have to prove. >> and that's something that kind of came up again this afternoon, which was the defense had earlier today sort of made a joke of oh, it's the "national enquirer," what does it even matter? 350,000 people buy this magazine. and it was addressed this afternoon because it's a really important point to emphasize, this is on every newsstand in america, at every airport, at every walmart, and that cover was being weaponized every week, week in week out it was being weaponized to go after trump's rivals, to run these ridiculous covers -- >> because of how it was amplified. it wasn't just -- i mean, it was in all thoez those places but trump was grabbing it and running with it. >> and the ted cruz one is probably the best example of that where we do that s

he texts dylan howard essentially, my god, what have we done?n asked to explain that, he says, i understood that what we had been doing, meaning with respect to the doorman, with respect to mcdaniel, with respect to mcdougal and stormy daniels, that was being done to help the former president win the election. i think that's the most damning piece of evidence. the quote of the day was where stormy daniels issues through davidson a statement that is a denial of having what is referred to as a romantic sexual relationship with donald trump. there are two separate denials. davidson was asked, what would you say about the truthfulness of that statement, and he says, no one has ever said that their relationship was either a relationship or romantic. saying essentially, it was just a one-night stand. it was technically and literally true if not terribly misleading. as a lawyer, i'm not sure any of it came off looking that well with that explanation. >> tell us about the former president's demeanor. how has he been today? >> he seemed very impasimpassi

gone. >> so right now these tax between stormy daniels manager at the time, gina rodriguez, and dylan howard, who was the editor in chief of the national enquirer. howard says, i thought she denounced it previously. rodriguez response. she said she will do it under two conditions. stormy. daniel says she doesn't know who dylan howard is. i don't know what this is in reference to. she says, you want me to comment on something when i don't do the contexts and that's not fair but the argument being made is that dylan howard from the national enquirer is saying to gina rodriguez, stormy daniels manager at the time, you're selling what story you're trying to sell me. she already said twice it didn't happen. everyone standby. the sketch of the day we're going to bring you right now because there are no cameras in this form. i'm ridiculously this is from courtroom artist jane rosenberg. it's depicting donald trump looking on today as prosecutors questions. stormy daniels, you see the photograph there the other image behind trump's faces, trumps image. and then of course that stormy daniels, it depi

, much like gina rodriguez. >> and dylan howard being the editor. >> the editor in chief, the person who isn't testifying as far as we currently know. davidson was intimately involved with ami in terms of repping different women, different people who were involved with sex tapes and he's a fixer for all intents and purposes. this is one of i think the most time he's spent in court for some time and he is used to sending threatening letters and getting on the phone with people and doing deals for consideration. >> what would be the relevance of proving that davidson was selling lots of these stories, because that isn't the point of this case? the point is whether or not specifically the stormy daniels payment and the repayment that is being complained about by michael cohen has to do with the election. >> part of is to paint him as a shady character, always shaking down people. charlie sheen, hulk hogan, lindsay lohan. and donald trump is one of them. and part of this constellation of famous people who at some time or another got shaken down. >> you could tell davidson was getting ver

weisselberg or anyone else's -- or dylan howard's presence. they are not to speculate.etimes that happens. there's a witness who is not there. neither side can say the reason is x. the judge tells the jury, don't speculate why that person hasn't testified. >> karen mcdougal is another potential witness who is not going to be called by the prosecution. thank you. stand by. we will check back. >>> up next, the politics of the hush money trial for former president trump and president biden. we are back in 90 seconds. you are watching msnbc. to happ. you have to make it. and if you want a successful business, all it takes is an idea, and now becomes the future where you grew a dream into a reality. the all new godaddy airo. put your business online in minutes with the power of ai. i told myself i was ok with my moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms. but just ok isn't ok. and i was done settling. if you still have symptoms after a tnf blocker like humira or enbrel, rinvoq is different and may help. rinvoq is a once-daily pill

>> reporter: right, i mean, take into account that dylan howard is not expected to testify. dylan howard, the editor and chief of the "national enquirer" who has come up almost every single day of testimony here in this trial so far and was included in those text messages that you just mentioned that were just entered into the record today between him and the manager for stormy daniels, gina rodriguez. dylan howard is not going to be testifying because as david pecker told this jury that he is currently going through a medical condition and is in australia and would not be able to come to the u.s. and take part in this trial. that was somebody that could have taken easily a day or two of testimony as well. that is where you saw the text messages between those two individuals read into the record by a member of the d.a.'s team, a paralegal instead. those text messages revealing in so many ways about the engagement between the editor and chief of the "national enquirer" who is not even party to the $130,000 agreement but was understanding of the importance to david pecker and

i worked with david pecker and dylan howard in order to obtain the life rights to obtain the story.ng the way did either update you with respect to that story? cohen, yes. as the matter progressed did you update there trump about the matter? cohen, immediately. at some point did you learn ami had entered into an agreement with the doorman? what were the terms? yes, they were going to pay $30,000 executing an agreement with the doorman and obtaining the lifetime rights to not publish the story and, quote, take it off the market. did you tell them that there trump would be grateful? cohen, absolutely. was he grateful? cohen, absolutely. how significant is this, charles? >> it is. i think it's very significant. i think that part of what is happening here is you're getting to ankush's point a little bit more of how much michael cohen had insight into donald trump's frame of mind pretty much at all points. you want as early as possible to establish that michael cohen is someone who can give an accurate account as to how donald trump was feeling, what he was thinking and where his head wa

dylan howard at the "enquirer" once or ongoing relationship?gina rodriguez writes back, a couple times, and he promised her a condo and a spot on "celebrity apprentice." these text messages show that gina rodriguez was being bargained down from an initial ask of $250,000. but as david pecker testified, he reached the point with this deal where he said, quote, i'm not bank and refused to do it, which left these negotiations in the hands of michael cohen and donald trump. so on october 17th, 2016, gina rodriguez text, we're not doing the deal, the trump deal. dylan howard replies, keith gave me a heads up what happened. gina rodriguez, they didn't pay when they said they would and they keep trying to buy more time. "daily mail" wants it bad and we're doing it. the foot dragging by michael cohen and donald trump ends on october 7th the last text message from dylan howard the day before that says, quote, good news i hear. prosecutors today also got to the actual charges at hand, those 34 felony counts for falsifying business records for the first t

all these text messages, reading them ad nauseam that dylan howard says this, gina rodriguez said thaty mail was going to pay 200. what you going to do and then they bring in these paralegals from the da's office in manhattan. they said donald trump said this on twitter and at that time this was happening. the jury is yawning and sitting there. they don't know what's going on either. they don't know the crime is. >> martha: i always like to go back to this point because i think it adds to what you're saying. the federal election commission looked at this and i passed it. >> they said there is no law broken here. alvin bragg was pressured to take this case, you know, mark pomerantz want to this case to be pursued. he left and wrote a book about it. brett has a lot on the line here. and he's the only one of these cases that's likely to have been before the election. >> there's no other case that's going to go to trial before the election but as i was sitting there looking at alvin bragg's back i couldn't help but think he's here because he knows and if he doesn't win this case he's in de

these were text between the inquirer, the ami, dylan howard, and davidson. what is the substance of those exchanges? >> i think the substances mostly to show these guys were in touch very frequently. >> they are working this deal. >> they are working the sand they both understand that both sides have an interest in ha coming to these agreements. first mcdougal and then stormy daniels, even though davidson testified he wanted to rid himself of the whole thing. he found cohen detestable, but just when he thinks he is out he gets pulled back into doing this deal. >> flip sides of the same deal. >> quickly, 90 seconds. i will put on the clock for you to talk about the strangeness k of the e. jean carroll deposition, court reporter and c-span archives. what was that about? >> as you said, that they were not stipulating. everybody stipulates, so they were going through the sword of first-year law school requirements for business records exception, et cetera. i thought the jury would be very bored. they actually seemed to be paying attention to this. >> take me thr

the final text messages from dylan howard to gina rodriguez saying i have good news, i hear.have good news, i hear, and i'm paraphrasing here, and essentially the entire exchange over this six-month period, chris, is the back and forth, the negotiations, the leading up to this ultimate $130,000 payoff to stormy daniels even in the final weeks leading up to october 26th in these text messages. they haven't come through on the agreement, on the payout, so they're going with daily mail, their loss, but then subsequently, obviously as we know now, so many years later, why we're here now is the $130,000 did, in fact, come through. it was fascinating to see a glimpse of this negotiation going between howard and gina rodriguez and wanting to show the jury the lead up to the ultimate payoff. >> so, chuck, where are the glaring holes that the prosecution is expecting, hoping, planning for michael cohen to fill? >> yeah, it's not really a glaring hole, chris. it's an obvious need for proof as i had mentioned earlier. the records were false, they were intentionally false, and they were

that is what led then a day after that to keith davidson and dylan howard being connected to michaelen on october 10th, 2016, and in those weeks that followed, that is what led to the negotiations of the storytelling in the clear understanding, in the clear eagerness to have her story bought by michael cohen and donald trump. right here she takes the stand here to immediately begin answering questions including, yes, if stormy daniels is the name she intends to go by inside of the courtroom. >> vaughn, please stand by, david, thank you so much for offering your insights. right now we have the prosecution asking her some basic questions, by the way we should note she is going by stormy daniels on the stand. she was asked by the prosecution which name she prefers, if she prefers stormy daniels or stephanie clifford, she said stormy daniels. at this point, they're just laying some of the ground work on who she is, her background, she talked about growing up in louisiana, saying she was born and raised in baton rouge, her parents split up when she was 4, she was raised mostly by a single

it was acknowledged by dylan howard, editor-in-chief of the "national enquirer," that if her story went public, if she went out and talked about it in the closing weeks of the 2016 election, it would be, quote, the nail in the coffin for donald trump's 2016 presidential campaign. three days after the drop of the tape on october 10th is when michael cohen was connected to stormy daniels' attorney, keith davidson. that is when negotiations over the selling of her story and ultimately the nondisclosure agreement with $130,000 in tow came to fruition. stormy daniels' story never became public before the 2016 election. what you heard today from stormy daniels testifying to this jury was a chronically of how she got there. it wasn't just a one-night stand in 2006, four months after barron trump was born, instead it was two to three times a week, receiving phone calls from donald trump in the months after, it was a meeting in january of 2017 in hollywood at a gala for trump vodka in which she was introduced to karen mcdougal, all around the idea that at one point potentially she would be put o

answer, after i received the information from dylan howard, i immediately went to mr.rump's office, knocked on the door, and said, boss, i got to speak to you. and i told him about the conversation, the sum and substance of the conversation that i just had with dylan howard. and i asked him, meaning i asked trump, if he knew who she was. he told me that he did. and i stated about the story that existed on the dirty.com, that they'd had a relationship that occurred during a golf outing going back to, like, 2006. and i told him that one of the things that, you know, we need to do is we need to obviously take care of it. question, did mr. trump also tell you anything about having met her at the golf tournament back in 2006? answer, yes. question, what did he tell you? answer, he told me that he was playing golf with big ben roethlisberger, the football player. and they had met stormy daniels and others there, but she liked mr. trump, that women prefer trump even over someone like big ben. question, and did you ask him at that time, in 2011, whether he had had a sexual enc

steinglass asked witness keith davidson to read that text that he sent to dylan howard. i have a blockbuster trump story . question, what did you mean by that? answer, sort of an entree or teaser to dylan to let him know i had perhaps an opportunity for him. question, and what was that generally speaking without revealing client confidences, what was the opportunity about which you were contacting him? answer, regarding the interaction between karen mcdougal and donald trump. question, what did stir howard say if anything, in response? answer, talk first thing i will get you more than anyone for it. you know why. question answer that you would call me in the morning. that i don't know if i had a clear understanding at that time, but i knew that dylan's boss, david pecker , and mr. trump are longtime friends and had a former business relationship, that mr. david pecker published trump magazine, and that at the time they had endorsed mr. trump's candidacy. that is why national enquirer, he believed,. dylan's reply was talk first thing, i will get you more than anyone for it

dylan howard replies, "my god." there was no ambiguity in it.ere there and keith davidson said that this was about the election. when you have the text messages, you have to go to the repeated word, "extortion." >> i thought the defense had one good point to make, that he did make, but it was clouded in talk about all these other people who have nothing to do with the case and that was the point about the document that was signed using the pseudonyms , that they used for stormy daniels in reaching this agreement and donald trump, reaching this agreement and the line were trump is supposed to sign was never signed and that seems, to me, to be the best thing to bring up on cross- examination of this witness. we will hear about in the final argument, but even that point got, i thought, drowned by so much else around it. >> so, i agree and disagree, because one of the things that i would say is that, at that point, which is a good point for the defense, which is that the agreement has three signatures but was supposed to have a fourth, which is dona

did you tell him what you had heard from dylan howard and keep rivets in? yes.s reaction? he was really angry with me. i thought you had this under control. i thought you took care of this. he expressed to me there is a previous denial. meaning we have previously been able to work with stormy daniels to deny any sexual encounter took place when this first arose in 2011. there is a previous denial. just take care of it. cohen says there was a lot going on at the campaign at the time. he was like just take care of it. question, did he say anything to you at that time about how this might be viewed if it got out? answer, yes. what did he say in substance? he said to me this is a disaster. total disaster. women are going to hate me. this is really a disaster, women will hate me. guys may think it's cool, but this is going to be a disaster for the campaign. what did you understand him to mean by women will hate this, what was his concern? trump defense lawyer, objection. judge, overruled. cohen, at the time esther trump was pulling very poorly with women and this cou

dylan howard is a more important figure but you have david pecker and keith davidson and michael cohen talking about various conversations with him, and they're well documented in e-mails and also in phone records and texts. the person they are probably thinking about is allen weisselberg for one of the reasons sue said. there's a key meeting in january of 2017 that's memorialized on a paper that features allen weisselberg's handwriting on one side, and donald trump on the other side. the meeting they take to trump, the only person who testified about that is michael cohen. >> they only have heard from one person in the meeting. a lightning round here, ladies, what you're watching for in closing arguments, i'm watching for how much does the prosecution and defense call each other out on opening statements. the jury has been paying closely attention since day one. fiercely taking nets. the defense put themselves in a serious corner by saying there was nothing illegal that went on here. it wasn't like there was a mistake made on the general ledger, it was just an accident. they have comm

sure the payoff went through, but then also his difficulties in communicating with davidson and dylan howard having to act as an intermediary or a mediator because michael cohen was becoming so difficult to communicate with and davidson felt as if he was not being truthful with him about why it was they were trying to delay the payment. we know allegations have been made that it was donald trump, in fact, who wanted to delay the payments until after the election depending on whether or not he won or lost that election. it was interesting to see that entire time line, chris, laid out, and then when we went into cross examination, it was all about chipping away at the credibility of davidson as an attorney, right? his list of clientele, his roster of clients that he has served going after, for instance, lindsay lohan when she was in rehab. they wanted to chip away really at the credibility, and they did that for quite some time. bove really went at davidson for quite some time. there was a risk, i think, for the jury in seeing that, okay, we know what you're trying to get at. let's get back to

blanche, i want to talk about your use of encrypted apps you used with david pecker and dylan howard. testified you would use those apps at times to keep conversations confidential. but a lot of those key conversations were just on text. yes, sir. the post launch period has returned to relative calm with few punches landing. blanche says the ndas were e-mailed back and forth, cohen says correct. they're going on another afternoon break. todd blanche is serene. except for that moment we had right before the lunch break, he's not, like, bombastic. he's not overly confident. the way emil bove has been described, like a pit bull, a trump style litigator, the style he supposedly wants. i wonder if you're donald trump, how you feel, maybe we'll bring in danny cevallos about this, why todd blanche would be doing this cross and not somebody with a little bit more fireworks behind them like emil bove. >> i had the chance to watch emil bove in action. i was impressed. when i saw him cross examine, and it wasn't a critical witness so much, it wasn't like a stormy daniels, it was either a paraleg

i was feet from dylan howard. walked away and called him back and said, mate, if david pecker finds out i'm helping you, i'm caught. i knew if i -- it would give me cover. i said it was a catch and kill. he said, what's a catch and kill? i explained the process of buying a story off the market and killing it. i go back up to my office after telling him dylan is doing this story and i'm sweating and dylan howard comes into my office and says "the wall street journal" has a story coming. for me it was fascinating finding out what else was going on when michael sends that email for comment to hope hicks and then hope getting to jared and saying can you get in touch with rupert? they're looking to buy time. she's also trying to figure out what the strategy is here. seeing those bits and pieces today play out was just something -- filled in the pieces of the puzzle there. >> to your point, i mean, the get jared to call rupert, it wasn't a criminal catch and kill. it had the election interference as a motive, but it was

the text messages between the likes of keith davidson and dylan howard of the "national enquirer" ande should wholly expect to be brought forward before this jury when michael cohen himself takes the stand this upcoming monday. >> stay close, please, and let's bring back our legal panel, sarah krissoff, bernarda villalona and paul henderson. what's the point of this line of questioning? >> it might be a little dry for the jury, but frankly the trial has been pretty entertaining so far so a few bits of dry evidence aren't going to be a problem. but it's really, again, to corroborate the testimony of the other witnesses. michael cohen's going to talk about communications he had, calls he had, text messages he had, and then the prosecution is going to stand up at the end of this and say, you know why you can believe michael cohen? because it's right here in the text messages. >> you were surprised they didn't save this guy for after michael cohen, why? >> this would be a good witness to put after michael cohen. it would corroborate him, and there's not a lot of cross examination to do wi

i think that there was an understanding that this is a text between dylan howard and i write he's theguy from national enquirer. and that there was an understanding that our efforts may have in some way, i should strike that. that our activities may have in some way assisted a presidential campaign of donald trump question and how did dylan howard respond to your text? answer, oh, my god. >> there you have it. if i can push back a little bit. got pushed back a little bit. >> what, does his impression of why trump, donald trump did it matter? it comes down to why trump did it. not why anyone else surrounding it did it. so on the other side, those payments were made, right? weather stormy, daniel's new those payments were made for a specific reason, are not mcdougal new four specific reason not davidson new force pacific reason or not? it comes down to why trump did it happen the answer is that jurors, we always say when we're parading in front of them, you use your common sense and good judgment to anna navarro is point, right? >> everyone around you knows what's going on. the coconut.

you cannot convict president trump on the words of michael cohen, keith schiller, dylan howard, allen weisselberg are not here in this trial. michael cohen was the witness they called and the words michael cohen said on the stand matter, they matter. he took an oath and swore to tell you the truth and he told you a number of things on the stand that were lies. pure and simple. again, he has mentioned, guys, michael cohen's name several times so far. expect to be a huge part, obviously, both his name, along with stormy daniels' testimony, a huge part of these closing arguments today. and i am not surprised, this is something we anticipated as well, that he has brought up and i imagine he'll bring this up again, the absence of some major figures that we did not hear from, allen weisselberg specifically, keith schiller as well. >> yasmin, fascinating to go back into the courtroom where blanche continues his statement today. let me just take you in there for just a second, because blanche is just now saying there is no dispute, that in 2017, again, establishing, according to blanche, that

a very serious matter. >> did you tell him what you had heard from dylan howard and keith davidson?yes and what was his reaction? he was really angry with me. i thought you had this under control. i thought you took care of this. i expressed to mr. trump we did 2011. i have no control over what she goes out. and does and he expressed to me they're in there is previous denial. just take care of it. there was a lot going on at the campaign at the time. he was like, just take care of it. >> did he say anything to you at that time about how this might be viewed if it got out yes. what did he say? substance. >> he said to me, this is a disaster, a total disaster women are going to hate me because this is really a disaster. women will hate me. guys may think it's cool, but this is going to be a disaster for the campaign. >> what, if anything, did you understand about withdrawn why did you understand what did you understand him to mean by women will hate this and what his concern was objection. overruled so what the time is to trump was polling very, very low with women and you said very w

he's describing a moment when stormy daniel's people is to be keith davidson and dylan howard from the acquirer came forward and said, stormy daniel's is looking for some money here. hovland or the prosecutors says, did you tell him donald trump what you had heard from dylan howard and keith davidson cohen says, yes, hoffacker says, and what was his reaction? cohen says, he was really angry with me. i thought you had this under control. i thought you took care of this. i expressed to mr. trump, we did 2011 with the stormy daniel's matter first came up cohen says, i have no control over what she goes out and does. and he expressed to me there was a previous denial just take care of it. >> there was a lot going on in the campaign at the time. >> he was like just cake, take care of it, hoffinger asks, did he say anything to you at the time about how this might be viewed if it got out, cohen says yes, hoffinger, what did he say? hey, in substance cohen, he said to me, this is a disaster, a total disaster women are going to hate me because this is really a disaster women will hate me. guys

here's a text message, october 17th, 2016, from dylan howard to michael cohen, i'm told they're goingith "the daily mail," they, cohen testifies is stormy daniels. >> that incentivizes them to move faster and get the money to her. and he's going to deceive a bank and try to get a mortgage for the money. >> keith davidson knows who they're dealing with in being willing to fay. >> there's one other complicating factor, that keith davidson testified that he was quitting the case. not only was it going to be void but also he was saying i'm not representing her anymore, and so they had to wrangle him back into this and get the deal signed quickly. >> so right now this e-mail -- >> the text message from dylan howard, not taking my calls. michael cohen, you're kidding, who are you trying to reach. the agent, obviously. keith davidson. now they're not only losing control of it, they're losing control of their contact with stormy daniels. >> things were spiraling out of control, and that's why there was this feverish pace, and this all happened on the heels of "access hollywood," and you can s

continuo detallando el contrato con las mujeres, dijo que fue mediado por el ex editor del enquirer, dylan howardhoward la noche de las elecciones de 2016 en un tono de humor negro, dijo que estuvieron sorprendidos asumiendo que sus actividades, en este caso los contratos de silencio ayudaron de alguna manera a la campana presidencial de donald trump al darse cuenta que iba arriba en las encuestas. >> es que la fiscalia alega que trump cometio interferencia electoral al enterrar este tipo de escandalos sexuales, cosas que ya sabemos que donald trump ha estado negando, julio. >> carla, pues gracias por esa cronica, ese resumen de lo que sucedio hoy en la corte en manhattan. >> gracias. >> claro que si. >> ¿que tal, julio? >> muy buenas tardes. >> pues una de las noticias que estamos investigando nos lleva directamente hasta connecticut. >> hay una explosion de un c camion sistema captado en camara, miren nada mas, unos 8500 galones de gasolina explotaron despues de una colision en cadena con tres vehiculos involucrados, cortando el paso a un tramo de la carretera i-95 que ademas co conecta el area

now there's an october 26, so we're excuse away from election day email from dylan howard to michael cohen and keith davidson saying, thank you for both chatting with me earlier. so clearly there in discussions in these final days, this is such a critical period. i mean, this could help the prosecution's case and that clearly the reason for all the expediency here is that there's an election few days away. and in the wake of the access hollywood tape, it's important for them to suppress this. but as karen pointed out earlier, for the defense, you don't see trump on any of these emails. you only see him occasionally reference there's no indication that he is directly involved in the initial step to this hush money payment. yeah. trump just now started texting. i think a year ago or so. he was never famously never texture. he always just calls multiple times a day. i'm told he still does most of his phone calls or early in the morning to his attorneys, but october 26 has been a singular date in this trial that was the date that michael cohen was desperately trying to get that account o

dylan howard wasn't there. keith schiller talking about all the people who could have come up as the, all the president's men who were not there, other people in the room conversations about credibility. they're going to use this opportunity to talk about not what their burden would be. they have no burden of proof. they don't have to prove trump is innocent. they know the prosecution has to prove that he in fact his guilty. if they can do so by pointing out all the areas that you've not hear testimony. they're going to try to make their case that way. it's important also talk about they are raising the area of business records that's part of it. that's really the crux of this case. the documents are the most important part of this case. witnesses are important as well. this is 34 counts of falsified business records. they talk about prosecution wants you to think trump knew about the baptism because of a book is if i goes priors decades earlier, so there won't youth focused on a 34 documents in this case. and

there's a text message exchange between keith davidson and dylan howard, who of course work for davidker. >> and just to really quickly through this, this is the first exchange and attacks davidson says, yes, what did you say? davidson says, what have we done steinglass, the prosecutor says, what did you mean by that, mr. davidson? davidson says, well, that was sort of a gallows humor for and it was on election night as a result for coming in and there was a sort of surprise amongst the broadcaster and others at donald trump was leading in the polls and there was a growing sense that folks were about to be ready to call the election. the prosecutor says, and you referred to it as gallows humor. can you explain that a little more? what did you mean? why did you say what have we done davidson, he says, i think there was an understanding this is a text between dylan howard and i, and there was an understanding that our efforts may have in some way, i should strike that. that our activities may have in some way assisted the presidential campaign of donald trump an important, well, i mean

and dylan howard is referring to fact that the national enquirer was in the business of catching andling stories for one donald j. trump. court transcripts released late last night reveal that attorney keith davidson told the jury that his text about a blockbuster trump story was, quote, sort of an entree or teaser to dylan and that he reached out to him because, quote, i knew that dylan's boss david pecker, mr. trump were long time friends and had a former business relationship. now after a lot of back and forth, that deal closed in august of 2015. at which point, keith davidson calls michael cohen. here is what davidson told the court. quote, i called him and let him know as a professional courtesy that the deal involving his client, donald trump, had closed. and of course that client was donald trump. and of course he was fully aware of everything that was happening. because we already know he's on tape having a conversation about how the money gets moved around with michael cohen about paying off karen mcdougal in september of 2016. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer

. >> reporter: davidson acknowledged texting with "national enquirer" editor dylan howard the night trump, writing, "what have we done?" howard replied, "oh, my god." asked to clarify the text, davidson told the jury there was an understanding that their activities may have assisted trump's campaign. trump has denied any wrongdoing and has denied knowing details about the payment, so today, the prosecution played an audio recording for the jury in which cohen tells davidson that trump hates the fact we did it. davidson testified that was a reference to the payment to daniels. trump's lawyers, meanwhile, tried to paint davidson as a serial extortionist of celebrities, citing alleged deals related to lindsay lohan, charlie sheen, and hulk hogan and that he did the same with trump. >> they are doing a good job at showing sort of this seedy, dirty underbelly of this world that keith davidson peddles in. by all accounts, you know, this is what this man does for a living. it's his bread-and-butter. >> reporter: and today, trump falsely claimed that he is not able to testify due to the gag order

the combination of his text messages to david parker and dylan howard, the national editor, we've seeneady lots of communications so we've already seen a ton of records, but is a paper trail. he is claiming that these are salacious sleazy allegations, this is a story about a porn star and a playboy model and coverups in payments of money, whose idea is that? it donald trump may complain about that but that is the essence of this case. >> very true. >> the business records violation of the people have brought against president trump, the 34 counts are really just 34 pieces of paper. so, what does the prosecution have to do to show the jury that those 34 pieces of paper have criminal intent to them? >> this is all about the falsification of business records which is just a misdemeanor. two, a felony it's got to see another crime. is so far the prosecution has been successful in tying trump to the scheme and to show that it was meant to influence the election. the only missing piece of the puzzle is that the prosecution has not yet established that donald trump was involved in the falsifi

so they could get the tweets in and the text messages in between stormy daniels' assistant and dylan howardri, american media. at the end of it, donald trump have anything to do with this? no! we have been watching four days a nut job who speaks to dead people, who thinks she lives in a haunted house, who wants to take up reading tarot cards, who want to make america horny again and you want to make this woman a main witness when she is prejudice all? her lawyers know what i am meaning by that. now a serial liar as the federal judge called him from a serial perjurer, a whole case about whether or not payments were made to reimburse this serial liar for what? nobody can tell us what therefore! and then we have -- the checks would come from manhattan. he barely looked at them, just signed them, and then they go back. there wasn't examining the stuff. said he was a multitasker. but donald trump would be on the phone and signing checks, talking to people and signing checks. you can't even show if he signed the check that he knew what he was signing other than -- and she had no knowledge of the

. >> that text is really powerful when keith davidson says, what have we done to dylan howard. he's like, i hope i'm going to get a presidential pardon out of this. those sort of things came out, but i think today it really did -- i was wondering how the jury was processing a lot of this stuff and keith davidson dealing with sex tape brokers. pfs it was tantalizing, but i get they were trying to muddy them up. >> i want to hear more about the atmosphere, but just as a trial 101, does the prosecution at some point have to lean in and say, yes, these are tawdry characters. >> you have to understand this is the cast of characters you're dealing with. in setting the stage for your arguments, when you're on summation, you're going to acknowledge that. you're going to say, no one here is a saint or nun or priest for that matter. but seldom do we have that in the criminal element to begin with. so you make that sort of par the course and normalize it to the jury. then you make your arguments from there and make sure you connect the dots. you asked the question earlier to what end as f

so they could get the tweets in and the text messages in between stormy daniels' assistant and dylan howardri, american media. at the end of it, donald trump have anything to do with this? no! we have been watching four days a nut job who speaks to dead people, who thinks she lives in a haunted house, who wants to take up reading tarot cards, who want to make america horny again and you want to make this woman a main witness when she is prejudice all? her lawyers know what i am meaning by that. now a serial liar as the federal judge called him from a serial perjurer, a whole case about whether or not payments were made to reimburse this serial liar for what? nobody can tell us what therefore! and then we have -- the checks would come from manhattan. he barely looked at them, just signed them, and then they go back. there wasn't examining the stuff. said he was a multitasker. but donald trump would be on the phone and signing checks, talking to people and signing checks. you can't even show if he signed the check that he knew what he was signing other than -- and she had no knowledge of the