e. jean carroll is our first guest tonight. the first person to accuse donald trump of rape was his first wife ivana trump. and the book "lost tie kuhn" records ivana trump gave a report assaulting her and pulling out her hair because his own hair didn't turn out right. he finished the violent attack with rape. ivana told closest confidants at the time he raped me then retracted her under oath testimony after reaching a financial settlement in the divorce case and donald trump got the publisher of the back to to include this note in the book. state of ivana trump. during a deposition given by me i wish to say on one occasion we had marital relations in which he behaved very differently than me than during our marriage. as a woman i felt violated and the love and tend herbness usualusual exhibited to me was absent. i don't want my words to be interpreted in a literal sense. donald trump's new rape accuser tells the story eerily similar to the rape ivana trump described in that under oath depos

writer e. jean carroll confided in two friends about what she says donald trump did to her back in the '90s. and she told them about the alleged attack right after it happened. those friends, author lisa bu burnbalk and former news anchor spoke to "the new york times" podcast, "the daily," about what carroll told them and what they advised her to do. >> i said let's go to the police. no. come to my house. no, i want to go home. >> right. >> i'll take you to the police. no. it was 15 minutes of my life. it's over. don't ever tell anybody. i just had to tell you. >> i said don't tell anybody. i wouldn't tell anybody this. >> e. jean carroll talked to cnn's brian stelter tonight. >> my two friends did not want to come forward. they just did not want to have any part of it. and "the times" convinced them it was very important. and my friends are very happy they have. >> what do you think changed their minds? was it just "the times" persuading them, reporters persuading them or was it something else? may

he told "the hill" e. jeanroll's allegation of rape he said she was not my type and she's lying. here is how she reacted. i'm wondering, the statement he said which he's just made which is she's not my type. that's the number one thing. >> i love that i'm not his type. don't you love you're not his type? he also called mis ed miss univ fat, miss piggy he called her. miss universe, one of the most beautiful women in the solar system, he called her fat. >> joining us white house correspondent maggie haberman and amanda carpenter and cnn legal analyst laura coats. thanks for being with us. maggie, the reaction from the president saying he doesn't -- he's never met her and that obviously, this is a picture where they have met. do you -- her response that this plays well, that this actually somehow it doesn't affect the way people see him, do you believe that? >> i was struck by her saying that to you and i think there is something probably to that where there is a portion of people within his supporters who finds s

now the author e. jean carroll goes further.e says president trump raped her in a dressing room in 1996. she writes about this in her forthcoming book "what do we need men for: a modest proposal." great to see you. >> thank you, alisyn. >> let's describe what happened 23 years ago. you describe this encounter with donald trump. you recognized him. he recognized you. this is in late '95, '96. he enlisted you to help buy a president for his girlfrind, though he was married at the time. >> he didn't say girlfriend. it was -- she was a mystery woman. >> he said for -- >> a girl. >> needed help buying something for a girl. and it was all fairly playful. >> oh, it was charming. remember what donald trump was like in '95 and '96? he was like a shakespearean character. walking up and down the street, always had a word for everybody. you remember, alisyn. greeted everybody. >> he was charming, absolutely. so this was all fun and games. >> i loved it. >> pointing out different gifts he could get. >> hats, handbags. >> at some point he sug

journalist and author e. jeanll has accused donald trump of grabbing her exactly the way he describes in the "access hollywood" video and then raping her in a fifth avenue department store 25 years ago. donald trump has denied the accusation and today lindsey graham said he's denied it and that's all i need to hear. lindsey graham never said that about bill clinton when lindsey graham was one of the house judiciary committee prosecutors in bill clinton's senate impeachment trial. he's denied it. and that's all i need to hear. like donald trump jr. before him, lindsey graham seems to have come to his public position of love of donald trump by working his way through his hatred and fear of donald trump. yesterday donald trump jr. tweeted this about e. jean carroll's rape accusation. enough is enough with this bull crap. let him do his job. is that what donald trump jr. said to his mother when his mother under oath accused his father of raping her? the very first person to accuse donald trump of rape was his first wi

just take us through what e. jean to you, what that attack sounded like to you and what her friends, the impact of her friends who corroborated hearing this account at the time. >> first of all, i don't think you're alone. i think there has been people who since this story, since this account first emerged last friday have been a little confused and not sure what to make of it. most of the women who came out with allegations against donald trump did so during the presidential race in 2016. they wanted to help inform the public, inform voters. that's not the case here with e. jean. this is -- this is an account among many that are in this book that is going to be coming out july 2, this tuesday. she said she didn't want to speak up during the presidential race, as she tells it, she has not spoken about this alleged attack since it happened in the mid-'90s. but what happened mid-2017 she decided, she's a long-term advice columnist for "elle" magazine and she decided she was going to -- after getting countless messages f

but now two of e. jeaniends are coming forward and they are sharing their stories of hearing her account of what happened more than 20 years ago confirming that she shared this with them contemporaneously and sharing their reactions. here is one of her friends who is a well known author explaining how she reacted when e. jean carroll told her about this. >> and i said let's go to the police. no. come to my house. no, i want to go home. i'll take you to the police. no. it was 15 minutes of my life, it's over. don't ever tell anybody. >> so lisa was the friend who said this was rape. you need to go to the police and report it. but her other friend carol martin told e. jean carroll keep this to yourself he is too powerful. he will absolutely bury you. and ultimately that's what e. jean carroll did for more than 20 years. he kept this to himself. more powerful now that we know there are these two women both prominent personalities confirming e. jean carroll's accounts. >> it's always so important when dealing w

. >> well, the book, e. jean, is called what do we need men for: a modest proposal. >> what do we need men for, aliysn? >> that's a longer story. >> need one thing. >> i need men to be my co-anchor. there's a lot of good men. there's a lot of good men. i know a million of them. and then there are some bad apples, and that's what this conversation for the past three years has been about. stopping those guys, because they make all of the great guys -- i don't know, seem worse too somehow. and that's not fair. e. jean, thank you for sharing your story. we look forward to hearing what happens next. the book again is "what do we need men for?" i really appreciate you being so candid with us this morning. >> thank you, aliysn. >> great to see you. >> john? >> thanks, aliysn. we heard this remarkable story, author e. jean carroll tells the story of being rained by donald trump in a department store back in the 1990s. she didn't use that word rape but that is what she said happened. that is what she described. the questi

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>> she says -- e. jean carroll says she doesn't want to press charges, and i completely understand, and no one should question why she's bringing this up at this point. but the question still remains to be seen. did he do this? what happened, and what is he going to do in the future if these allegations come forward? these are serious allegations, and republicans need to take a serious look at this. look, in my view, we knew this kind of behavior was evident in this president when he ran for president. the "access hollywood" tape was one of the most disgusting political things we've heard. the things that he talked about admittedly on the "access hollywood" tape is exactly what happened here. so it was really hard to believe that this didn't happen when he has bragged about it in the "access hollywood" tape. at the end of the day, he wasn't my first, second, third, fourth, or fifth choice for president, but he is the republican nominee, and many republicans, myself included, support his policies. but this k

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i also know e. jean0 or 15 years ago, she is a lovely person, an incredible person, and she has two other credible people who are corroborating her story. and do you know who else is well known? donald trump. normally a rape allegation against a sitting president would be a big deal, but in this case, let's be honest, we already know who he is. we already know how corrupt and morally bankrupt he is. we already know what a misogynist he is. >> people say, oh, that's just trump. i find that i still have the capacity to be shocked. >> i'm shocked by it and i continue to be shocked by the fact that a lot of religious conservatives support him with all of these allegations. now, whether they're proved in court or not, when you have enough, there is sort of a tipping point of you know who this guy is. and yet you still want to set him up as a leader of the free world. >> yeah. >> we won't even get into what's going on. >> let me play a little bit of e. jean carroll's. i did have the opportunity to interview he

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everyday progress >>> author e. jeanrump sexually assaulted her in the 1990s in a department store dressing room in new york. she has come out to tell her story. she has also said that she told two of her friends about it when it happened. well, now those two friends are speaking out. and we're going to hear from them. but first, i want to play what carroll told cnn herself. >> when we walked into the lingerie department, there was nobody there. which is strange. it was in the evening, so -- and on the counter were three really fancy boxes and a see-through body suit. he walked right to the body suit and snatched it up and said go put this on. now, that struck me as so funny because here i am, 52 -- i'm not going to be -- my idea was i said no, you put it on. and he said no, it looks like it fits you. you go into the dressing room, you think he's going to hold it up against you. and then it gets violent. >> right. the minute -- he went like this. i preceded him into the dressing room. the minute he closed that door i was

here's how e. jean carroll reacted to it with anderson cooper last night. >> i love that i'm not his type. don't you love that you're not his type. he also called miss universe fat, miss piggy, i think he called her. >> this is not the first time president trump has attacked the appearance of a woman to deny an alleged attack. at a rally during the 2016 campaign, he said another accuser quote would not be his first choice end quote. during our conversation with e. jean yesterday morning, she told us how she sees the pattern surrounding these allegations. >> with all the 15 or 16 women who have come forward. he denies it, he turns it around, he attacks and he threatens. then everybody forgets it, and then the next woman comes along and i am sick of it. i am sick of it. think how many women have come forward. nothing happens. >> i have to say, one of the really interesting things that happened yesterday in addition to your interview really following your interview which was the impetus, "the new york time

like e. jean carrolls?p the respect of woman, and balance that out with the president? well done. thank you very much. appreciate it as always. harry enten. wizard of oz. you heard us talking, the latest accuser of this president has brought the most serious allegation and some strong corroboration. she told two friends who were journalists when this allegedly happened many years ago. so why isn't it resonating more? ripe for a great debate, next. people, our sales now apply to only 10 frames. a new low! at visionworks, our sales are good on over 500 frames. why are you so weird? see great with 2 complete pairs for $59. really. visionworks. see the difference. whoa. travis in it made it. it's amazing. oh is that travis's app? it's pretty cool, isn't it? there's two of them. they're multiplying. no, guys, its me. see, i'm real. i'm real! he thinks he's real. geico. over 75 years of savings and service. fits skin tone and texture. maybelline new york. in 2 finishes: matte and poreless and dewy and smooth. 64

and they basically ran through what it was like to hear e. jeanis experience some two decades ago. lisa talked about how she was trying to get carroll to go to the police. here's what she said. >> i said, let's go to the police. >> no. come to my house. no, i want to go home. i'll take you to the police. no. it was 15 minutes of my life. it's over. don't ever tell anybody, i just had to tell you. >> interestingly her other friend carol martin had the opposite reaction. she said, no way, he's too powerful, he has too many lawyers. he will bury you, you should keep this to yourself and not tell anyone. carroll is sharing why she was so reluctant. she sort of explained a little bit more about why she was so reluctant to relive this and go to the police. here's what she said. >> it was an episode. it was an action, it was a fight, not a crime. i had a struggle with a guy. >> well, you felt you encouraged it, probably? >> i know i did. i know i did. >> oh, advice you, lingerie, great. it was getting better and better. >> you felt responsibility for wha

a photo that e. jeand of the two of them seeming to encounter each other at a party, he is denying they met and that he assaulted her. i spoke to e. jean carroll earlier, she said of course he says that. she didn't seem surprised that he is denying this. he faced sexual assault or harassment or generally inappropriate behavior allegations from 15 other women which surfaced when donald trump was what i was speaking to e. jean carroll about this aled incident, i asked her why he doesn't refer to this assault as a rape. here's what she said. yes, it was an attack. yes, it was against my will and yes, it hurt and i can't put myself on the level of other women who are young, who have children who are victims of sexual violence for most of their lives, and ana, when i spoke to her she said she was actually surprised at the amount of attention that these allegations have received. she saw the allegations that emerged during the 2016 campaign and her worry was that they actually made donald trump more popular in

the journalist the accuser is e. jean carroll.sing room door closed, he lungs at me and pushes me against the wall. hitting my head quite badly. he pushes me against the wall and opens its overcoat. unzips his pants and thrusts his pe nis half way or completely. im not certain. inside me. don't be bother by what i say. what it means or not. this is rape. period. she doesn't like using the word that is her right. when the account came out in new york magazine we didn't run with it. we needed our corroboration. we got it from one of the journalists that carol told about the rape. who are her friends at the time it happened. yes, we should get both of the sources. it would be better if their names were out there. clarity helps with closure. people who say they're victims should be believed. and you have to know that women don't come forward often. and for good and painful reason. look what's happened with her. women get dragged through the process all the time. there must be vetting. in a court of law there must be more. proof. such

. >> for the first time two women are going public to back up the account of writer e. jean carroll would has accused president trump of assaulting her over two decades ago >> and the poolside accident avoided by an alert dad after a toddler fell in the water. "early today" starts right now >>> good morning i'm melissa rehberger. >> and i'm phillip mena. the nation has now had the chance to hear from 20 of the crowded field of democratic candidates front runner joe biden took center stage, dominating the microphone he had the most speaking time. kamala harris and bernie sanders were close behind. one of the candidates who spoke the least was author maryann williamson, but she was also the most searched for candidate on google >> biden and harris were the most tweeted about candidates up on stage and twitter reports that the most tweeted about moment was when those two had a passionate exchange on the issue of race. for more insight on this, let's go to nbc's sarah in miami following all this for us. good morning things got pretty heated out there. >> reporter: yes, they did,

now, e. jeanroll never reported her alleged sexual assault to police, but she did tell two friends about it at the time, and those friends have confirmed that to "new york" magazine. now, carroll has also accused former cbs c.e.o. les moonves of sexual misconduct. he has denied those allegations. moonves was forced out of cbs last summer after reports of sexual misconduct. maurice. >> dubois: ben tracey, thank you. former u.s. marine and retired bomb squad detective luis alvarez says there's nothing else doctors can do to fight his cancer, but this hero is not giving up his fight to help fellow first responders to the 9/11 attacks. what are you feeling right now? how are you feeling? >> a little overwhelmed. i'm not used to all this type of attention. >> dubois: luis alvarez did not have a 69th round of chemotherapy this week. the cancer has spread to his liver. doctors told the 53-year-old retired n.y.p.d. detective that continuing treatment would not prolong his life. >> i got sick 16 years afte

why did she advise e. jean police. >> she felt donald trump was a powerful man with lots of lawyers and she was in a sense looking out for her friend. and as you know trump has denied all this. he said with great respect, number one, she's not my type. number two, it never happened. as you know e. jean carroll never did go to the police about this. and these three women who talked about this alleged incident all those years ago say they have never spoken about it since. >> more to come on that. we'll see you again at 11:00 eastern time tonight right after the debate. we'll be on from 11:00 to 1:00, full debate coverage with our entire team. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." >>> welcome to "prime time." we have new word tonight how the democratic front-runner plans to deflect inarrows coming his way. is joe biden going to be joe cool or jolten joe. and we have bernie sanders campaign cochair here to let us in on the plan for the first face-to-face dual. the current president is at the g-20 i

for what it's worth, here's a picture of donald trump talking with e. jeanole in 1987 about a decade before the alleged attack. as for why she's coming forward now all these years later, she says, quote, receiving death threats, being driven from my home, being in dismissed, being dragged through the mud and joining the 15 women who have come forward with the credible story how he grabbed, badgered, belittled, malled, molested and assaulted them only to see the man turn it around, deny, threaten and attack them, never sounded like much fun. it's taken e. jean carroll years to come forward but now she is speaking out. she'll join my colleague lawrence o'donnell as a guest on "the last word." we'll be right back. join t-mobile. 1. do you like netflix? sure you do. that's why it's on us. 2. unlimited data. use as much as you want, when you want. 3. no surprises on your bill. taxes and fees included. still think you have a better deal? bring in your discount, and we'll match it. that's right. t-mobile will match your discount. eh, not enough fiber... chocolate w

so even e. jean carroll sentially said, well, i didn't call it rape, i'm not that person, i'm not a m, i wasn't raped. she sort of allose to that or dplicitly says that, an i think that younger women, a younger generation of women understand the language and also have gone through a pocess in the culture where feminist culture is actively trying to destigmatize rape so that the rape victims who are able to feel very strongly that the t, in is not theirs, bu fact, the shame should be the rapist's shame. that's a struggle in our culture. we don't live in that culture where the perpetrators really pay consequences. >> woodruff: speaking of that, chemily bazelon, how f an effect does it have on women overall that high profile women, like anita hill, like christine glazy ford, who didn't -- christine blasey ford who didn't start out high profile but came out in the kavanaugh confirmation hearings, thae t thmen are believed? >> that has an effect. soraya is riht about the new language and the fact that som

here's abc's david wright. >> reporter: two long-time friends of writer e. jean carroll now say she called them shortly after donald trump allegedly assaulted her in a dressing room at bergdorf goodman in the mid-1990s. >> the minute i was in there, he shut the door and pushed me up against the wall and bang, banged my head on the wall and kissed me. i just -- it was so shocking. >> reporter: carroll says that it got even worse, and that she told two friends at the time. today, both came forward, joining her for an interview with "the new york times." lisa birnbach, best-selling author of "the preppy handbook," says carroll called her immediately after she left bergdorf's. >> i remember her saying repeatedly, "he pulled down my tights." >> reporter: birnbach says, in the moment, carroll laughed it off. >> and i said, "what? he raped you?" and you said, "eh, he kept pulling down -- he pulled down my tights, he pulled down my tights." >> reporter: birnbach says she tried to convince carroll to call the cops right away. >> it was horrible. we fought. and i said, "le

ed the president said e. jeanroll is "totally lying." >> a governor sent state police to hunt down law makers who ducked out on a key vote. >> they were hired and elected by oregonians, and i expect them to do their jobs. >> and a soldier receives the medal of honor for risking his life to save his squad. >> i love those guys so much, you know? >> dubois: good evening. i'm maurice dubois. and this is our western edition. and we begin tonight with yet another shake-up in the trump administration, this time involving the agency that oversees immigration and the border. it comes after hundreds of migrant children were removed from a border protection facility in texas because of filthy conditions. now we're hearing some of those children are heading back there. there's a lot of confusion over these late developments, and jeff pegues sorts them out. >> reporter: as the federal government remains under fire for its treatment of migrant children, acting customs and border protection commissioner john sanders announced h

>> that's between e. jean and her friends.y are, that's, of course, up to them. >> of course, there are multiple accusations in the piece. not just president trump named. she names a number of other high-profile people as well. would you have published this story had the lightning rod of donald trump not been attached to it? >> i absolutely think we would. i don't know it would get the attention that it's getting. it's a heart wrenching and beautiful memoir that talking about her life in relation to men throughout her entire life. when she tells the story, it's contextualized among all of the encounters she's had from the time she was a child. so, i certainly think it would be worth publishing her account with or without this particular story. >> e. jean carroll's book will be released july 2nd. >>> still to come the award winning film "apollo 11" will premiere tomorrow showing the newly released film ahead of the moon landing. the director joins us, next. tics to keep you both comfortable. and now the queen sleep number 360®

. >> did you ever any hesitation about publishing this account by e. jean carroll?don't know if i would call it hesitation, but it was obviously something we thought about a lot, we looked at every angle, we did everything we could to corroborate parts that were possible to corroborate. it certainly wasn't something we took lightly. >> in what way did you corroborate the story or try to vet? >> so we did talk to the two women that she said she told at the time they were able to corroborate that they do remember being told that at the time. they also provided details of the conversation that she hadn't written about that they remembered, and then we also reached out to bergdorf to see if there was any possibility they had preserved tapes from that time. they hadn't, which isn't a huge shock. it's in light of many other similar accusations, and we did consider it in the timeline of those other accusations and it does come in a period of the mid-'90s where there are several other accusations around the same time. >> so why not publish the names of the women who corrobo

for what it's worth, here's a picture of donald trump talking with e. jeanarole in 1987 about a decade before the alleged attack. as for why she's coming forward now, death threats, being dismissed, being dragged through the mud and joining the 15 women who have come forward with the credible story how he grabbed, badgered, belittled, malled, molested them to see him turn it around never sounded like much fun. it's taken e. jean carole years to come forward but now she is speaking out. she'll join my colleague lawrence o'donnell as a guest on "the last word." we'll be right back. ight back. what is that? uh mine, why? it's just that it's... lavender. yes it is, it's for men but i like the smell of it laughs ♪ play it cool and escape heartburn fast with new tums chewy bites cooling sensation. ♪ tum tum tum tums with new tums chewy bites cooling sensation. i was told to begin my aspirin regimen, blem. and i just didn't listen. until i almost lost my life. my doctors again ordered me to take aspirin, and i do. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an

e. jean carroll responded just a little while ago in an interview with anderson. >> he said "i'll say it with great respect. number one, she's not my type. number two, it never happened. it never happened, okay?" >> i love that. >> you love that? >> i am so glad i am not his type. he's denied all 15 women who have come forward. he denies. he turns it around, he threatens and he attacks. >> so let's remember, while he denies attacking e. jean carroll, donald trump admitted to sexual assault and he admitted it on tape. >> i've got to use some tic tacs just in case i start kissing her. you know, i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. it's a magnet. i don't even wait. when you're a star, they let you do it. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the pussy. you can do anything. >> you've heard that so many times before you may not be listening, but i want you to listen, really listen to what donald trump himself says. >> i just start kissing them. it's like a magnet.

you said earlier you've never met e. jean carroll.here's a photograph of you and her in the early 1980s. >> i have no idea who this woman is. this is a woman who's also accused other men of things, as you know. it is a totally false accusation. i think she was married, as i read, i have no idea who she is, but she was married to a -- actually nice guy, johnson, a newscaster. >> there's a photograph of her. >> standing with my coat on in a line, kbgive me a break, with m back to the camera. i have no idea who she is. who she did is terrible. what's going on. it's a total false accusation, and i don't know anything about her, and she's made this charge against others, and you know, people have to be careful because they're playing with very dangerous territory, and when they do that and it's happening more and more. when you look at what happened to justice kavanaugh and you look at what's happening to others, you can't do that for the sake of publicity. new york magazine is a failing magazine. it's ready to go out of business from what

e. jean carol claims mr.ted her in a dressing room in the new york city department store in the mid 1990s. carol said she's glad she's not the president's type. >>> ten years ago today, singer michael jackson died at the age of 350 of a fatal overdose. and now a decade later amid persistent claims of sexual abuse, many struggle with how to view the pop star's legacy. chriss martinez explains. >> reporter: on hollywood boulevard's walk of fame, for many michael jackson's star remains a must-see. jamia sanders and stephanie athelon are michael jackson super fans who came here solely to find the singer's star ten years after his death. their love for jackson is as strong as ever. >> you don't just lose your love for michael jackson, like, it's something that's like timeless. >> reporter: for some fans jackson's legacy is not quite what it once was. >> i was 7 years old. >> reporter: earlier this year the hbo documentary leaving never land re-ignited allegations that one of the best-selling artists in music histo

according to the president, writer e. jeanroll is totally lying when he claims he sexually assault her in a new york city department store. he says, i'll say it with great respect, number one, she's not my type. number two, it never happened. it never happened, okay? ( audience reacts ) >> trevor: really? all right, first of all, that's not great respect. that's not saying it with great respect, she's not my type? what is that supposed to mean? if your denial leaves people thinking there is a type of woman you would rape, that's not a good denial. yeah. there should be no number one, i didn't do it, that's it. like rules using a bathroom at a party, no number two. only number one. a woman's attractiveness has nothing to do with whether or not they were raped. nothing at all. ( applause ) but it shows you how out of what can trump's priorities are. he's being accused of rape and his first concern is letting people know what his standards are for women. it's like you're accused of murdering someone at a holiday inn and your resp

issuing a strong denial against the accusations that he forced himself on author and advice columnist e. jean carroll in the 1990s. >> it was shocking. it was against my will. >>> immigration and customs enforcement is set to conduct raids in 10 cities affecting about 10,000 people. >>> babies now taking care of babies at the border. >>> good new day to you. top of the hour now, i'm jessica blackwell. >>> president trump says he's not looking for war, but when it comes to iran, he said it would be obliteration. >>> plus a senior immigration official said i.c.e. will start rounding up thousands of undocumented immigrants tomorrow. >>> and breaking overnight in hawaii, nine people are dead after a skydiving plane crashed near honolulu. >>> new york magazine has published allegations from advice columnist e. jean carroll in which she claims the president sexually assaulted her in the '90s. >> she makes her accusations in her forthcoming book "what do we need men for?" which also accuses other men of inappropriate behavior. >> reporter: president trump fought against the accusations that he sexua

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we are hearing the refutation of that from e. jean carroll.e's what she had to say. >> he denied all 15 women who came forward. he denies. he turns it around. he threatens. and he attacks. it was against my willings and it hurt, and it was a fight. >> reporter: now, the president addressing this in that interview last night. we'll see if he says anything about it today. the "new york times" i should note in reporting this, they talked to two of her friends who said at the time a contemporaneous account that this happened. they are unnamed. according to the "new york times" they found two friends that corroborate her story. which is always an interesting part of these stories. >> anna and shawna, the words from the president, not my type. this is not the first time the president has used a defense like that, a defense of that nature to deny accusations of sexual assault. this is a blast back to 2016. >> believe me, she would not be my first choice. that, i can tell you. man. you don't know. that would not be my first choice. >> that seemed to p

e. jean carol accused trump of the assault.e assault but he also denied having met e. jean carol. you can clearly see carol and her formal husband and donald trump and his first wife at the event. >> joining me now is e. jean carol who broke this silence. what do we need men for in modest proposal? >> thank you so much for being here. >> thank you joy for having me. >> it is quite brave of you to come forward with these allegations now. there are six women who accused donald trump of sexually assault including yourself and kristin anderson and jessica leeds and summer zervos and jill harth. you are the only one that's doing it while he's a sitting president. >> i had not thought about that until you just said it. >> yes. >> hopefully everyone on the show watches this regularly. if you can briefly explain what happened for those who may have not seen that interview. >> well, i had difficulty writing about this and i am a writer. talking about this is very difficult. you will have to bear with me. >> i apologize for having to ask

but long-time advice columnist e. jean carroll insists her story is the truth, that the president sexually assaulted her in the mid '90s in a dressing room at bergdorf goodman. >> the minute i was in there, he shut the door and pushed me up against the wall and bang, banged my head on the wall and kissed me. i just -- it was so shocking. and he put his shoulder against me to hold me against the wall and at that point, i realized that i was in a very difficult situation. >> reporter: in her new book "what do we need men for," carroll describes in graphic detail how the alleged sexual assault got even worse before she was able to escape. >> it was against my will. and it hurt. and it was a fight. >> reporter: president trump first said he didn't even know carroll, though she did give us this photo of the two meeting in the late '80s. >> standing with my coat on in a line. give me break. with my back to the camera. i have no idea who she is. >> reporter: the president now telling the hill, "i'll say it with great respect. num

don't actually tend to make up facts and who remember these phone calls and these sit-downs with e. jeanappened and i think we have the right sound bite now of lisa trying to encourage her friend to go to the police. >> i said, let's go to the police. no. come to my house. no. i'll take you to police. no. it was 15 minutes of my life. it's over. don't ever tell anybody. i just had to tell you. >> and of course, poppy, you know, it's not uncommon for people not to report assaults like this and e. jean carol was getting very different guidance from both friends, lisa birnbach said her friend told her, this guy will bury you. even donald trump at that time has so much power, so many more lawyers than you do. just forget it. bury it away and that's basically what she said she's done for the last 20 years. >> thank you for that reporting and you spoke with them before you they went record. thank you very much. >>> we're waiting. almost 10:00 a.m. and moments away from the supreme court set to deliver several major cases that will impact all of us. stay with us for the latest. is. so are the t

. >>> and later, e. jean carroll is speaking about the impact of this magazine cover and why she chose this time now to come forward against donald trump. >>> but first, the state of the democratic race is summed up in a front page this morning -- this is on the cover of "the new york times." kamala harris stridently comfortably on to the stage, symbolizing her momentum. despite the technical glitches on night one, income's second night of the democratic primary debates brought a record setting audience. more than 18 million viewers. that is a record in terms of democratic debates in history. 18.1 million viewers. that tops the cnn debate with hillary clinton and bernie sanders from 2015. now, of course this is setting the bar very high for the debates to come. it shows that americans are tuned in, they are already enormously interested in the field of democratic candidates that want to take on president trump. so this is an attention primary. that's what vice called it the other day, saying harris won the me

yesterday we had e. jean carroll on our air who described what is legally considered a rape. she does not call it that because she doesn't want the con notation that goes along with that. legally that's the definition of rape that she includes in her book that comes out. the president had responded to it. he was asked many times about it. he gave interesting responses and then he said this to the hill. this was his response yesterday. quote, i'll say it with great respect, number one, she's not my type. number two, it never happened, it never happened. okay. and you know, that's just being questioned whether that's the most sensitive way to deal with a rape accusation or even the wisest way because she's not my type, what does that mean, if she were his type, what would chef done. >> he started the sentence with i'll say it with great respect, which seems an oxy moron there. this is the pattern of the president basically going to this place where he thinks the best defense that he has against allegations of sexual misconduct or rape is that i didn't find the woman to be attra