e. o. of exon feel unhappy, the big goal is we want to get cleaner energy, better energy, we need grants for the national science foundation to find better fuels which are cheeper than fossil fuels. that's the only way that will stop the pollution on this planet. and i would rather have us spend our effort on accomplishing that then spending it on discussions about divestment. it is a misguided discussion. >> i think it comes back to this question it is not an either or. i have stanford students and stanford alumni who yes, they are trying to get more to take place, but also building alternatives. and investing time and energy, in trying to address the capitollism of climate change. so i don't think it is a matter of should we be putting any energy into divesting or not, but rather can we do that as well as building these alternatives. green bond funds, innovative technologies, we see these opportunities across classes and really the opportunity to be investing and supporting that, they were i thin