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as e.j.tioned, there's one other thing that we have to emphasize, lawrence, which is if you think about where bird flu is going now, we're going to have a big pandemic. and it's not just the vaccinations. they've cut off funding for children's cancer, for clinical trials, for cancer, taking hope away from people who are desperate. if we take away from the cdc, the center for disease control, the ability to act in a public health matter as serious as another pandemic, and this is going to reverberate in so many places. it's not just his position, it's the other people at the centers for disease control and the fda and center for medicare and medicaid services. everybody in this country is going to be vulnerable to disaster, and we cannot allow this to happen. it just cannot happen. but it's going to be close. god help us. >> yeah. and the day after donald trump tried to turn off the switch on medicaid, robert kennedy jr is going to be in a confirmation hearing about him being in control of med

joining us now is e.j. dionne, an opinion columnist for the washington post and a senior fellow at the brookings institution, also with us congressional historian norm ornstein. he's an emeritus scholar at the american enterprise institute. and. >> e.j, i just. >> wanted to just open this to. your reaction. >> to what you heard from caroline. >> kennedy today. >> well, i was very moved when you began your your segment by talking about the decade of. >> assassinations and remembering. >> that time and the tragedy. >> that. >> has befallen. >> particularly all the kids. >> in this family. >> i'll never. forget the day that martin luther king was. >> killed. >> april 4th, 1968. and bobby kennedy was campaigning in indianapolis, and he rushed to a black neighborhood because he wanted to try to keep the peace. and he said that i had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man. and he ended the speech by. quoting aeschylus about. taming the savageness of man and making gentle the life of the wo

e.j. dionne is also with us. columnist for the "washington post" and senior fellow at the brooking institution. he's also a professor of government at georgetown university. jamel, i want to begin with that point you make about here is the theoretically i guess you'd call him leader of the republican party, donald trump, who has absolutely no interest in building the republican party. >> yes. i think the immediate issue for the republican party at the very least is it just puts them in a bad political position. there will i'm sure very quickly come a time when the immediate interests of donald trump are going to conflict with what is best politically for the republican party. in those situations you want a president who cares about the health of his party. but if you don't have one trump is very clearly willing to sacrifice the health of the republican party and its immediate political interests to whatever he wants to do. and i think we'll see that pretty soon. >> e.j., talk about what a difference this is from

economist e.j. antoni joins me now. trudeau out.own with canada shaking out, e.j.? >> oh, city -- stu, i see it working out very well for the american people because we're going to have donald trump at the helm. anytime if he was negotiating on our behalf in the first trump administration, i think things worked out well for the american people. what he's about when it comes to international trade is getting the best deal possible for the american people because they are the ones he represents. look, it's not that he's out, you know, to hose the rest of the world here. it's not that he's out to do economic damage to places like canada, he's just trying the get the best deal possible he can for the american people, again, because that's who he represents. and when it comes to dealing with a nation like canada, trump understands that he holds all the cards. he has all the leverage here because he understands he can wield the american consumer's purchasing power as a kind of financial weapon on international stage when almost all canadi

let's bring in heritage economist e.j. antoni.here are very few sources that i go to almost immediately after the jobs report, but you're one of 'em because you cut to the chase. everyone else is regurgitating the headlines and giving out the same accolades. you're saying let's find out what the truth is. talk to us about what you see in today's jobs report. >> charles, one of things i see is an increased reliance on government to try to boost these numbers. the number of government jobs hit yet another record high which it has been doing month if after month. it's now over 23.5 million. and while that may sound great that people are working, the problem is these are people whose jobs are being funded by the government, in other words,by tax -- by taxpayers, and you need to be adding more private sector jobs, and we're just nowhere near that ratio. that's especially true once you look at not only jobs that, i would say, are directly funded by the taxpayer, but also indirectly. when the government gives a grant, let's say, to a sch

. >> leading off our discussion tonight is e.j. dionne, an opinion columnist for the washington post and a senior fellow at the brookings institution. he is a government professor at georgetown university. e.j, i just want to open the floor to you on your reaction to that speech. >> well, you know, you were talking about how long joe biden has been in public life, and we kind of expect joe biden can't surprise us anymore. >> and everybody expected that this would be a speech celebrating his achievements and defending his legacy, which is very defensible. there are a lot of achievements there. >> he didn't do that. >> joe biden turned the page to the next fight in our politics. i think what was so striking tonight is these attacks on oligarchy in an administration where elon musk is going to hold a major position. >> the attack on the tech industrial complex, where a lot of very rich tech people have now rallied to trump, having been once upon a time, democrats. the talk about not being bullied into abandoning the steps he and the c