transport budget by 15% and the police budget by 20%, how can he even be giving up on a cut in the e.u. budget before the negotiations have been in. >> we have to make cuts in budgets because we're dealing with a record debt and deficit. [cheers and applause] if he wants to talk about consistency, perhaps he can explain why his own members of the european parliament voted against the budget freeze in -- [inaudible] last year? perhaps he can explain why the socialist group in the european parliament that he's such a proud member of are calling not for an increase in the budget, not for a freeze in the budget, but for a 200 billion euro increase in the budget, and while they're at it they want to get rid of the rest of the british rebate. is that his ?oil. >> ed milliband. >> it's good to see -- it's good to see -- it's good to see the crimson tide -- >> order, order. government back benches including ministers, apparently approaching maturity. they've really got -- [laughter] no, i dare not. they've got to tackle their behavioral problems before it's too late. ed miliband. >> well, he's certain

for the dow jones newswires and the wall street journal she's been covering all of this matina e.u. budget talks collapsed leaders failed to reach an agreement on the budget with according to your reporting wealthier countries saying there just wasn't enough restraint in their proposed seven years bending plan you were there or you've gotten a good feel for the politics and this sticking points to how real are the divisions because of course we hear about them but i don't know how real they are if this is just political theater and i'm saying that in the context of course here in the u.s. where we've seen debt ceiling wrangling and budget wrangling becoming the status quo kind of political theater there is absolutely political theater involved in these negotiations i believe tony blair famously said that they were actually tougher negotiations than the ones he had to hold to to negotiate the northern ireland peace process so it really is the place those budget talks and remember their for seven years right it's a very long time. it really is a place where national problems political proble

well camera face an uprising in parliament last week didn't have the money urges a cut to this e.u. budget do you think he could also mean ultimately veto this proposed budget. well it wasn't just last week actually there was a debate yesterday in the commons on the issue of the european banking union were a number of conservative backbenchers voted against that because of various concerns that arose let's let's remember you're quite right on through merkel is over here but she and. a couple of years ago all signed an agreement basically to cut spending within the european union so it's not quite such a one sided side of things as people might suspect and of course germany dislike other countries is facing tough economic times and so it's in their national interest to have sensible public spending at the european level which it accounts for of obviously four hundred thirty billion euros well cameron has been warned that if he did veto the budget that would actually be a move to the u.k. stepping out of the e.u. altogether is that really likely. well i have heard that i was a commissioner s

resolved and talks just collapsed among european leaders trying to agree on a budget for the next seven years so in other words the e.u. isn't anywhere near out of the woods and it's also important to remember looking from abroad at the headlines coming out of these most recent budget talks to these are politicians needing to score political points so you may not be able to take everything you read at face value so to separate fact from fiction we spoke to me tina stev as journalist for the dow jones news wires and the wall street journal who's been covering this all in brussels take a listen. joining us now machinist as a journalist for the dow jones newswires and the wall street journal she's been covering all of this matina budget talks collapsed leaders failed to reach an agreement on the budget with according to your reporting wealthier countries saying there just wasn't enough restraint in their proposed seven years bending plan you were there are you on a good feel for the politics and this sticking points to how real are the divisions because of course we hear about them but i wonder how real they are if this

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the european commission which is the bureaucracy essentially is under seven percent of the total e.u. budget so it's really really represents a very very small slice of the whole of the budget of the e.u. that is currently under negotiation and as for the two hundred people that earn more than him perhaps he is right and perhaps actually i believe that is that is a fact that you mentions and that may be something to address capping capping those salaries but really it is important just to be sure that we know what the context of this is it's a very small amount of money in the grand scheme of things a popular argument to make travels well traveled here to washington to our conversation to be sure and then of course the president mario draghi for his part we heard him talking about a return to confidence in the euro area i just i don't know are you confident matina our markets confident because it doesn't really seem like there has been much improvement except maybe that people are getting distracted by some other more recent headline grabbing problems like the u.s. fiscal cliff. well i think

her british counterpart will temper justice with mercy and agree not to vote veto plans for the e.u. budget the details are just ahead. so in a search in a new group of leaders and growing economic challenges and calls for better government a week long party congress that will perform the polish once there is now underway beijing baze a journalist andrew morton says reforms have been the key word in the build up to the meeting. yes senior members of china's communist party meeting just behind me here in the great hall of the people on tiananmen square for the opening of the eighteenth party congress a congress which will see the beginnings of a once in a decade leadership transition when president hu jintao begins to hand over the reins of power to the next generation of chinese leaders president xi jinping widely expected to become the next head of state now president who has just finished giving his last speech as general secretary of the communist party he's going to stand down as general secretary at the end of this week paving the way as i say for she to take over as general secretary

plus a bigger ring over the budget britain's david cameron and german chancellor angela merkel failed to agree on e.u. spending plans during talks in london. you're watching r t live from our moscow headquarters with me to bomb would say anger and violence have spilled over onto the streets of athens with police using tear gas and water cannon against greeks the protesting draconian new budget cuts demonstrators hurled petrol bombs with more than one hundred detained as the country's parliament pos an austerity package aimed at securing the latest bailout all of our reports from the greek capital. what we have seen though is anger on the streets of athens we saw a crowd of around one hundred thousand people gather in the meet the square just behind me in front of of the parliament building not quite quickly escalated into violent clashes between police and protesters in a matter of seconds downtown athens went into essentially in war zone for a couple of hours we saw molotov cocktails thrown flash bang grenades used also gas used extensively again here in athens as police tried to calm down protester

contributions but the daily telegraph newspaper understands that his negotiating position is based on the e.u. budget the whole not the u.k. the budget that could mean to him signing a deal that reduces it as a whole but increases britain's coach that wouldn't be at old popular and could easily lead to another rebellion in cameron's government but as the situation it's not clear at all whether a deal will be possible. and other e.u. headache is greece for leaders are furious at the country being left in limbo finance chiefs fail to agree on the handling over and handing over the next thirty one billion euros that vitally needs in order to avoid insolvency leaving it straining in order to meet debtors demands and with thousands of layoffs sparking even more protests economists and. people over there are on the edge. well you have this very old kind of blame game going on between the greek government and the metro bitterly cold together a bit if you want to kind of the dog ate my homework kind of excuse me going on over and over again both of course were very disastrous and not too funny at all or resu

budget and it. raises the wider discussion here of course as we said about bush's place within the e.u. itself is a discussion of britain is going to have to have at some point so it was anger merkel certainly going to be looking for some form you think of clarity even persons stultz right now unlikely that david cameron is actually going to be able to give her that because of course the talk at the moment is not so much even if britain will have a referendum now when that will happen and until that happens until britain decides of course he can't really give her much more information than the. a spurned lover has gone on a brutal killing spree in the russian capital police say a lawyer shot six people dead and wounded two others after a bitter breakup with his girlfriend. also online today suspected whistleblower bradley manning is reportedly considering i guilty plea over claims he leaked diplomatic cables to wiki leaks in a deal to avoid a potential life sentence log on to r.t. dot com to learn more. coming out breaking the side with host abby martin bass after a break here in our ci

contribution but the daily telegraph newspaper understands that his negotiating position is based on the e.u. budget as a whole not the u.k.'s sat in the budget that could lead to him signing a deal that reduces it as a whole but increases britain's coach abuses that wouldn't be at all popular at home and could easily lead to another rebellion in cameron's own government but as the situation stands it's not clear at all whether a deal will be possible in the u.k. is going on apply it is also adding to the pressure that david cameron is facing in the latest show van der thousands of students have him the streets of london protesting against rising university fees and the loss of financial support archie sarah for three four pts. then launching a guy like you is in face of the same put in place in the ad against cuts to education maybe most. parliament. completely closed off but this is a promise by the lived before the last election that they wouldn't raise the tuition fees that a. couple of years ago you had each month of backlash and students about that i mean it's very tough because they said at t

and i can tell you for sure that most states are now poor and really needing the money from the e.u. budget one to keep those levels of spending as high as possible for the next seven years because they stand to benefit a real sticking point always has been for example money spent on the so-called common agriculture a great cultural policy which economists and and several people around the world have decried as essentially subsidies for european agricultural products now fronts sees the common agricultural policy and spending on that as a holy cow but then on top of all of that you have britain and the british prime minister who has advocated for cutting way above and beyond what anyone else has so how do you reconcile this how do you bring these people around around the table and and get an outcome obviously that could in the. tonight and it looks like they're going to be reconvening early next year to talk about that but one important thing to note is they're under not a lot of time pressure so they can let this process drag out for a little longer ok so that i think that's important to n

of david cameron has warned he could veto the e.u. budget if the numbers are not to his liking but stephen ward from the panels party says the whole euro project has already failed this is a battle between the rich and the poor but actually it's the rich who are the brussels mandarins demanding more for themselves more money for them to spend and it's the poor people of europe the fifty percent unemployed youth in spain those starving in greece the people rioting in france from portugal are the ones that are suffering for the greed of the brussels mandarin but what is changing is actually the people of europe are finally waking up that this is a huge battle between them and this political elites who are demanding more from them every single day whilst protecting their own interests we are not helping the public of greece somewhere not helping the jobs being lost in the u.k. by defending a system that is palpable it failed and will has no real way of actually achieving growth for the european continent in the future. and while e.u. members ha

germany france the netherlands and they want to see the e.u. budget either ferguson or cut they believe that in a time of public or steroids here across europe it seems entirely unreasonable not least perhaps politically offensive to be for the e.u. to be asking for more money now the other side got the ones the beneficiaries from the budget is include countries like poland which is sort of central and eastern europe they believe that the increase in the budget is the best way for them to raise the living standards to match those of kind of core europe ultimately that make which side you think is likely to wear. as you might expect in these sort of situations the side that is putting in the money is probably likely to succeed best the real problem here is that the the size. contributing is not united france germany the u.k. and the others can also agree how much to come out all where those cuts should fall and which countries that do you think are proving to be perhaps the most difficult the most radical probably is the u.k. it's absolutely refusing t

budget to twenty twenty covering infrastructure education research and development but after three years of economic turmoil in the e.u. weakening political ties stock divisions are emerging david cameron is heading to brussels or more many are calling mission impossible he's under intense pressure at home to cut a new budget contributions and has threatened to veto anything beyond spending greens a promise that goes down well at home popularity is at an all time low for his hands are tied by what's gone before tony blair as the new deals mean the u.k.'s contribution to brussels is likely to go up in real terms and its cash rebate will be reduced by two billion pounds a year unless cameron can get more budget cuts from brussels he may face more rebellion in his own party and germany's angela merkel desperate for a deal to sow focus can back to saving the euro but the brussels budget tension has opened and angry in. new divides on the one side northern european countries like the u.k. which are demanding huge cuts in spending to match they still staring at home that's making countries to the south and east who are depe

well let's discuss this battle over the new e.u. budget with david campbell bannerman he's a british conservative member of the european parliament joining me live in london where prime minister cameron basically seems to have given in to euro skeptics i know you're among them you're a prominent former member of the u.k. independence party is that the only reason for his tough stance. no i salute the prime minister cameron for his tough stance on the budget he's done this before he's made it clear he wants a freeze in the budget others want carts i would like to see the fifty three million pounds a day that the cost britons would be actually prepared to the u.k. but i'd salute his position it's the right position i think others have to bear not david cameron he's in a very difficult position though isn't he what happens if there is no agreement over this budget running out of time only got what two weeks now before the e.u. summit one of the consequences for the u.k. . well i think it's ridiculous proposition to be raising the budget that'

e.u. control over national member state budgets even to have its own sources of income its own e.u. taxes that of course is pushing it too far it's gone far too far in the wrong direction which is centralization and it powers were turned i think the atmosphere in europe would be a lot better what despite the painful divide of the next budget m.e.p. did manage to achieve compromise on defense and security the european parliament passed a resolution aimed at keeping national militaries at full strength i spoke to pretty sure m.p. david campbell balamory voted against the move he says the bill isn't about security concerns that it highlights instead some rather disturbing ambitions. it really does trespass international responsibilities for the fed and it's talking about you looking after it. so it's a direct assault on the sovereignty is this really is about politics rather than the military this is about actually furthering the cause of it one united states and europe because they want a single army a single defense industry they want control from the part of their foreign policy and

in affordable spending cuts in the e.u. budget the they say me you which of course is forcing its member countries to implement austerity and the problem here is that everybody wants something different david cameron as i say wants a real terms cut france and possibly germany as well eager to preserve their agricultural subsidies denmark once a rebate has threatened to veto and that's it gets one and then on the other side of the coin you've got come countries which are a net beneficiaries of the poland greece and italy and this is leaving them very uneasy because of course they want contributions to the budget and the budget as a whole preserved and every single one of these twenty seven countries has a veto so any one of them could walk away from the table and that would mean these talks would collapse entirely david cameron would be coming home to a country where the e.u. is becoming less and less popular in fact some survey showed overhaul of britain's no longer wants to be a member of the twenty seven nation bloc my colleague

e.u. leaders her have been battling over their common budget in brussels for two days have failed to reach an decision we can members who wanted to uphold subsidies and support programs while large contributors to e.u. those urged the belt tightening in line with the stairs here at home a new round of cash fights will now have to take place next year as r.t. sarafov reports. no deal for the budget talks as he said all simply ending in collapse is going to be pretty hard to put a positive spin on this nonetheless of course we're seeing the european leaders trying now i've got the statement in front of me at the moment from the european council and they're saying the bilateral talks are going to continue they're going to have to hammer out some kind of agreement by next year a lot of focus now is going to be or what exactly went wrong and of course what is going to happen next what we really saw happening over the past three days in the sort of crux of the failure was that you saw this widening divide between the big donor countries you have britain you had germany you had the netherlands yo

twenty seven european countries have come together in brussels to hammer out a new e.u. budget the first day of talks has revealed that existing disagreements could become a major obstacle on the road to reaching an accord what is there a further reports. well a long way to go. all eyes have really been on david cameron for this brussels budget battle everyone wanting to see whether or not he can come up with a good if you've watched in say five he looks very much like a man trying to lead this fight trying to look like he's in control of this of course most of britain has secret which is that really he's not in control of course in the build up to this big budget summit we've seen that embarrassing defeat where his own backbench is the fight him calling for a real turn cuts to the next budget a whether or not he's going to be able to achieve that that is really the question at the moment it actually seems pretty unlikely that what he's gone to the negotiating table with he'll actually be able to deliver a bit of course the talks are ongoing and they still visions that you seei

journalist for the dow jones newswires and the wall street journal she's been covering all of this e.u. budget talks collapsed leaders failed to reach an agreement on the budget with according to your reporting wealthier countries saying there just wasn't enough restraint in the proposed seven years then.

lawsuits the trillion euros battle of brussels as european leaders gather to wrestle over the e.u. budget the people they represent continue to struggle with cuts back home. world news live from our moscow headquarters who are watching r t with me lucy catherine of well the people of gaza had woken up to a relative call a ceasefire between israel and hamas reached late on wednesday is still being up held it is a violence have killed five israelis and more than one hundred and sixty gaza residents over the truth began shakily with several rockets fired towards israel after the deal had been agreed upon. as more from tel aviv. the ceasefire ends some of the fiercest fighting we've witnessed in years between israelis and palestinians if indeed the truce holds it will mean that roughly one point seven million gazans will have a spike now from what we've seen eight days of heavy bombardment at the same time it brings with spikes to roughly a million israelis who live in the south of israel and who've been on the receiving end of constant and watches of rockets but i say if it holds because it

e.u. and not enough of the over the entire budget or the entire contribution that britain makes so david cameron really to put it in perspective for you is coming home to a country where the e.u. has become increasingly less and less popular and according to some surveys more than half of british people want to see the u.k. leave the european union altogether anything less than a reduction in the amount of taxpayer funding that goes to the e.u. every year will be not good enough well certainly an uphill battle for cameron and really deep to lodge ideological fissures among the bloc of self keeping us up to date thanks so much. or i will disillusionment with the european project has brought more support in britain for the u.k. independence party which i believe that only pulling out of the e.u. will do party leader and euro m.p. nigel farrar says the britons want to break free because they're losing out by staying in. i don't think this summit itself or the issues that are being debated today specifically are the problem i think the real problem is that europe is now split from north to south in

appears to be standing firm after e.u. budget talks collapsed earlier this week britain is opposed to any hikes and spending out of trying to push for cuts prime minister david cameron and the german chancellor angela merkel held warm and friendly talks in london but left the issue resolved dr lee roth around from the taxpayers' alliance says the u.k. special position within the e.u. gives us more clout when it comes to any squabbles over spending i think across the european union in particular in brussels so there's a long standing appreciation that the u.k. has a particular view on european integration which is not shared by the country we are also a country which pays for more going to the budget that we get out which puts is in a strong position but also. in the process there are also a serious questions as to the deal which we're currently getting within the terms so she's on the common fisheries policy and in terms of the red tape in my collection and so forth so the whole susa reasons why the u.k. politicians in particular

e.u. members supported an increase in the budget while some including britain called for cuts claiming that in time to start see nations just don't have money to spare is r.t. sarah ferguson. no deal for that son that the budget talks says he said all cynically ending in collapse is going to be pretty hard to put a positive spin on this nonetheless of course we're seeing the european leaders trying now i've got the statement in front of me at the moment from the european council and they're saying the bilateral talks are going to continue they're going to have to hammer out some kind of agreement by next year a lot of focus now is going to be or what exactly went wrong and of course what is going to happen next what we really saw happening in the past few days and that this sort of crux of the failure was that useful this widening divide between the big donor countries you have britain you had germany you have the netherlands you had denmark they were very much pushing for these big cuts in the e.u. budget is going to take us from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty any so on the other side of

you have the netherlands you had denmark they were very much pushing for these big cuts in the e.u. budget is going to take us from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty any so on the other side of that divide countries like france and italy now alternately what went wrong is the deal that was put on the table by the president of the european council ploy these countries including britain saying look that's simply not good enough and so alternately as we said they were able to overcome that and say this hold you meant this the base going to drag on internets this is very much a story of divided europe there were a number of countries that stood alongside britain in calling for those cuts david cameron very much would have wanted to give the message to people watching back home you know look i'm on your side as he said i'll be fighting for the very best deal for the british taxpayer now what he said is look we didn't get a deal but we didn't get an unacceptable daylight the prime minister is going to be returning to britain facing a country that never at any point in its history has really felt

e.u. members support an increase in the budget while some are calling for cuts they claim that in a time of us staring nations simply don't have the money to spare parties are smith has more. nobody's very optimistic at this stage that these talks will result in anything other than everyone just walking away from the table and saying we'll come back early next year and talk about it again the proposals the e.u. president herman van rompuy is pushing forward remain on satisfactory to practically everyone it seems he presented new proposals actually late last night which involved taking some money away from akman costs and reallocating into other areas. currently offering a real terms cut in the entire budget of twenty billion euros but that's on a budget of one trillion david cameron's calling what's the president's doing at the moment take correct he says that they need a real spending cuts and affordable spending cuts in the e.u. budget at the same me you which of course is forcing its member countries to implement austerity and the problem here is that everybody wants something different

budget. i hope you can agree this evening on need for budgetary restraint in the e.u. in the uk now as had been remarked, even the british labour party and, once the budget to be cut. that's the environment we live in in the uk, and totally allow the uk budget to keep increasing year after year after year. austerity is being imposed on many member states when we're seeing cutbacks to many other essential public services is completely understandable. i'm sure you and david cameron would disagree on a way forward. thank you. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: ms. harms. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: i would like to point out, i don't see the uk as strong but as a country which requires them come into the reforms very much, seems to be de-industrialized. i don't think with an anti-european position they can steer this country on a healthy course. secondly, tomorrow i will be traveling to greece. so i've taken a close look at the current situation, and i think you must admit finally that with reform attempts that they've exhausted everything. they have

france and italy agriculture in the so-called cohesion fund make up the two biggest autumn's in the e.u. budget the other one of course is. expenditure and then administration is about six and a half percent now the likes of poland. and the poor countries are absolutely refusing to accept any cards in the cohesion fund and you can see them him out in yellow while france is absolutely refusing to countenance any cop. to agriculture spending anymore. and this is the burning question is where do you think these cuts are likely to fall not surprisingly it's going to be in that segment of the u.k. suggesting that too much money is spent on brussels itself it's a given that money is tight does the e.u. need to spend fifty million for instance on a house of european history or does the european council need a new three hundred million euro forces the euro kratz retire at sixty three on full pensions is that reasonable given that other people in europe being asked to work longer work for less so basically this is likely to be some agreement on cuts in that area but it's not going to be enough. we've be

the real the three in the e.u. budget between twenty forty and twenty twenty and at the very minimum they were in the budget. there david cameron's position the government's position was that when they get to these negotiations that are happening in brussels in a couple of weeks time meeting with european leaders they were going for was to have a rise in line with insulation with pretty dean about fifty percent well that was not really good enough it was very interesting in the college there's obviously saw a lot of the m.p.'s for the first time talking and standing up in the voice of their constituents there's been a very very strong feeling that with such titles. people think it simply isn't fair to the to be asking for their budget increase one person saying north a penny more that was the message from the people that he was speaking to as he said a very very impassioned debate is not going to be binding on the prime minister but it's certainly going to be putting him under pressure when he doesn't use european leaders

in the parliament was for the express a few the house of commons was or should be a cut in the e.u. budget that's a real terms cut in the amount of money that britain hands over to the e.u. each year what will happen is that there will be actually some kind of increased it even that will be a real terms increase or cash increase because he can't actually stop more money going to the european union under the terms of the lisbon treaty he doesn't actually have the power to stop that so it will of course hopefully strengthen his hand to say look i'm really not in a position to hand over more money because of the problems within my own party but anything other countries want more british taxpayers' money for their own taxpayers as well to add more money into the coffers then that will go ahead so video has powers of actually limited because of the terms of the lisbon treaty now before ever david cameron was trying to heal divisions in his party by saying he would take a hard line at the summit and also that he wanted cuts that the rebels effectively really given him an opportunity to take this