e.v. chargers? >> that is correct area there is currently an ordinance at the board of supervisors that will require publicly accessible parking garage is to end goal e.v. charging stations and concurrent without ordinance, the mayor, with the city departments, announced a number of parking garage is that there opening up to e.v. developers to come in and and all charging stations. we are taking care of the public garages, and we are also taking care of the private garages as well. the private ones are still publicly accessible though. >> have a couple of questions for mr. buck. >> can i ask my questions first? >> i'm sorry. >> representative from tesla? >> land she waiting for rebutt rebuttal? we haven't done rebuttal yet. >> come on up. the question is, at the end of the day, the carbon footprint, a tesla 3 series, is that the same as a pickup truck? >> we have an impact report which has much more information than i can give you right now. if you are looking at the two different cars, and you take

e.v. adoption. regardless of whether these are tesla chargers or any other compa chargers, the same issue around bringing more power to existing buildings would be there, whether it's a tesla charger or other chargers. tesla is a private company. we are, my understanding, is the only company that is privately funding our charging, as opposed to using public funds to fund the charging networks. the tesla-specific nature of this isn't i think as relevant regarding the specific tree involved issue. >> and what other locations in the area specifically did you look at to put in a comparable charging station or any other charging station which might not have deforested part of the urban forest? >> we've had conversations within a different range of landowners in the city. i can't for confidentiality reasons disclose the names of those landlords, but there have been other conversations. >> and is there any public city land which doesn't -- which is available to put in tesla charging stations, which would not result in the deforestation of the urban forest? [ please stand by ] this doesn't involve -- that is why