holtz-eakin? >> when i was director, i thought a cbo as a consulting firm who was compliant with the congress and such a consulting firm it was our job to provide information they need to make the decisions that were coming. and if we could think ahead and identify the tough things, we could get ready and provide them with what they needed. there's a role for you in that as well, providing cbo with the game plan for what you intend to work on so that they can, in fact, do studies, many studies on immigration well in advance of the debate setting to get weeded studies of social security and prescription drugs in advance of efforts during my tenure to legislation, to the extent that you can convey to them information so they can be ready that would be fantastic. i think there's a real role for this committee in talking to the cbo about not only what will be in the score, but what would you like in the form of supplemental information. one piece that has occurred over the years has been moving past j

holtz-eakin. you have played key roles to be our independent nonpartisan source of information and analysis. the truth is congress simply could not function effectively without cbo's budget estimates and analysis. we make decisions that impact our entire economy and every family in america and those decisions must be informed by sound data and evidence. we created cbo so we were not forced to rely on analysis from the executive branch or outside organizations, information which reflected their own political agenda. we still need cbo to be that unbiased score keeper. cbo does not make recommendations, they do not take into account politics or ideology. they deal in numbers and analysis only. the only agenda is maintaining their independent respective voice and appreciate the hard work both witnesses have done in their mission during ten years as cbo directors. i'm also looking forward to the second panel. maya mcginny as and sandy davis. the committee for responsible federal budget has a long stand

holtz-eakin. in 2015 you criticized the cbo for not having a contemplative efficiency panel on outside-- >> i didn't hear the beginning, the buzzer. >> in 2015 you criticized the cbo for not having an official conflict of interest panel for outside advisors. and you cbo responded saying they were developing a process in terms of dealing with this. i guess my question since we've had much conversation on bias, was that policy ever developed? where do things stand now. >> to my knowledge they put in place a conflict of interest panel and advisors, i wouldn't characterize it as a criticism. i thought it would be wise to have one because it would be easy to criticize them for failing to do due diligence in the absence of one. it occurred that someone could fix it. >> in today's politicals, it could be defined as criticism, but you can define how you like. you wrote an op-ed on last april on the subject of the president as tax proposal in which you state, quote, sailing straight into sovereign debt cri

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for more on the impact of gary cohn's departure we are joined now by douglas holtz eakin, who was an administration of george w bush and is now president of the american action forum. thank you forjoining me. he went through all this with president bush. and teresita tried to impose work overturned. do you think that the same could happen to these? almost certainly, one of the most frustrating aspects of this episode is they will be costs, direct costs in the steel consuming industries that will outweigh the benefits. costs in the form of trade retaliation and degradation of the world trading system and no benefits in the end because the wto will save these are a violation and have to go. even if they do go away can confidence in the us as trading partner the restored question mark i think it has been shaken, i think an enormous amount depends on the outcome of the nafta negotiations. if that lands successfully with a tripartite agreement with the modernised nafta that will be against a lot of the rhetoric from the president on the campaign trail. and for the betterment of the north

i thought doug holtz-eakin gave a example, trying to score risk terrorism reinsurance. one thing you can be confident and projections and answers aren't going to be perfect. they couldn't be. what we're striving for to understand and believe, they wl be incredibly biased in one direction and open to on going inputs, so those models are regularly updated, we're learning when there are things that don't come out as projected, we're taking those results and updating models and behavioral assumptions, so i think that you trust and you're confident there is no bias in what you're getting out of the best they can do, and regularly learning and nobody can do perfect spot-on projections for any of these new big areas we're moving into. i would add, members of congress on the big issues are wanting answers more and more quickly which goes to resource question sandy discussed, the more people working on it the faster the turn around can be. >> your organization, the bpc aree able to see how complicated matters are when there are substantive changes in theho economy and health car

members heard from former cbo director alice rivlin and douglas holtz-eakin who discussed the office mission and purpose. this is three hours and ten

i called doug holtz-eakin from the american action forum.e numbers point how we need to find a solution. that is a stark reminder that the u.s. needs two things, productivity growth and entitlement reform. no amount of productivity growth can make entitlement stable we just need reform. amen, and amen. charles? charles: gerri willis, thank you very much. president trump slamming california's governor jerry brown at the border wall event. take a listen. >> i think jerry brown has done a poor job running california. they have highest taxes in the united states. the place is totally out of control. you have sanctuary cities where you have criminals living in the sanctuary cities. people will start to move pretty soon. if you don't have safety, meaning if you don't have this kind of wall, the drugs are pouring through in california. can't do it. charles: to former i.c.e. acting director john sandwig whether this battle will get worse before it gets better. i'm guessing worse but what are your thoughts? >> definitely getting worse. of the unfortu

holtz-eakin the overwhelming majority of federal projects that require environmental review, that's approximately 95% of those projects proceed under exclusions that are exempt from the most rigorous types of my middle review. less than 1% of the projects require a more rigorous environmental impact statement, the eis. according to the federal highway administration, the average length of that review is less than four years. what i don't understand is given the statistics, why does president trump insist that it takes ten years to go through the permitting process for transportation project? >> first of all, we're not talking about environmental permitting. we're just talk about permitting overall. as mentioned we all want to protect the environment. but there are ways in which the permitting process is duplicative. it doesn't make sense just from a process point of view, that we hope we can address. the permitting process also not only includes federal but state and local. the process could take ten years. our part can be maybe a portion of that. so one example is in alaska. i went up to alaska

former cbo directors alice rivlin and douglas holtz-eakin talk about the offices mission and purpose. >> [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> the hearing will come to order. welcome to the committee on the budgets hearing examining perspective some outside experts on oversight of the congressional budget office. before we begin i ask unanimous consent that