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time that each of the seven commissioners gave to the warren commission, no one is going to top earl warren. he is going to have -- for some, a controversial pick, ford had a relationship with the fbi, and he was the, mouth eyes, and ears of the fbi, on that commission, it's nothing of that, there's no evidence of it. but forward and earl warren flew to dallas to question jack ruby after jack ruby killed oswald, and question him at length -- and met with mrs. oswald and met with margaret oswald's mother. and he did a lot of work, produced a book, and jack, styles that fell i pointed, out wrote a book. i think it came out in 1966, called portrait of the assassin. he believed in the conclusions that the warren commission published. he helped shape those conclusions, crafting the language, there is no evidence of any other participation of any collusion, or of any any other players that -- oswald is the lone assassin he was also open with those critics and would say, i heard him say, on a number of occasions, that if you have evidence, bring it forward. we are still willing to consider it. but

ford and earl warren flew to dallas to question jack ruby after jack ruby had killed oswald. and questioned him at length. and met with mrs. oswalt and met with marguerite also the mother. he did a lot of work, productive produced a book, jack styles i pointed out he wrote a book. think it came out in 1966 called portrait of the assassin. he believed in the inclusions that the warren commission published. he helped to shape those conclusions, crafting the language that said there is no evidence of any other participation of any collusion of other players that oswald, the evidence indicate oswald is the known assassin. they believed oswald to be the alone assassin. it was also very open with those critics and would say, i heard him stand number of occasions if you have evidence, bring it forward. we are still willing to consider it. but in the absence of any other evidence the conclusion stands. >> a terrific. missy if i can sneak a couple more in here before we have to wrap up. can you talk to us about why did he dump rockefeller in bp and 76? tough decision. ford made princi

the condition of him talking to earl warren is that you have to give me a polygraph, i insist on it. and they gave him a polygraph and he denied he was part of a conspiracy. instead of putting the burden on those who have now been convinced jack ruby wasn't part of a conspiracy, i think the burden is on those of you do to explain all of the things i have talked about. host: penny is calling from connecticut. please go ahead with your question or comment. caller: i am interested in what is going on now. i would like to know after all the crab with -- crap with donald trump, is there a possibility he could go to jail? dan: this goes back to what we talked about earlier. there are a lot of investigations. i don't think he is going to be indicted for january 6. it is possible he may get indicted by a georgia prosecutor on the effort to overturn the election. we shall see what happens in georgia. i will say in that case, one thing very few people are talking about, is the possibility that let's say the prosecutor decides, i'm going to prosecute donald trump based on that phone call he had

unfortunate, but in the context of the times, i mean, one of the great proponents of the camps was earl warren later to be the great supreme court chief justice. i'm not defending, that i think he was, wrong i think it was unfortunate, he just as a good track record. >> my name is rebecca cooper, i was a former journalist and now i work for a nonprofit. my generation of journalists read whatever box all tells us to read. i'm excited to read your book. right now i re-reading katherine graham's great autobiography. we forget with all the fame of watergate, so many of the crises that she faced during her tenure, not only on the editorial side, but on the business and publish inside, and i just wonder what you think was his biggest crises, or a couple of the biggest crises that he faced in the newsroom during his tenure. >> that's a good question. >> you know, i will jump in forest. everyone faces crises, there's no question of that. he would've faced a lot more crises if you've been there 20 years later. i mean the newspaper business, the local journalism in america today is dying. it's one of th

there was a time when william brennan or earl warren would go and give speeches at universities and wouldts when they would come out and hold forth about things, you know, if you were a student of the court you considered those great moments where they would step out from behind those -- in some ways out of their robes in some way and sort of step forward in their plain clothes and sort of talk about what the court was like or what the kind of big debates were of the day. i would never want to discourage them from engaging in that way because in the best circumstances they feed the public discourse. but in a way identifying, it helps demystify the court. unfortunately, right now the court's doing a pretty good job of demystifying itself on its own. and as you point out, there is only one side in this debate to blame for the low regard that the court has been held in. it's not a new thing but it's gotten worse and worse. and i'll say one last thing to claire's point. i mean, if you you think about this story, the piece in the "times" talks about all these elements, attempts to lobby, attem