1952, dwight eisenhower was about to win the nomination to become the republican president. >> earl warren, the governor of california, was withholding the delegation's votes. governor warren tells eisenhower, i'll deliver the delegation for you on one condition. i want to be the next chief justice of the supreme court, ike, the great war hero, shakes hands, says you got a deal. he wins. one year later, earl warren is the chief justice of the united states supreme court. >> rod wanted a political appointment from obama, and for that he was prepared to trade obama's old senate seat, which is actually legal. otherwise, eisenhower would have gone to jail and americans would not have liked ike. do you see yourself as somebody who was just trying to function in perhaps an inherently corrupt but legal system, and that theoretically, almost any politician could be snagged the way you were? >> absolutely. of course i do. except i'm giving me higher marks because i was using that money and that power it gave me to fight an established system that served itself on the backs of the people. and when y