but that goes back to our earlrlier point, which is theree are people in a a good posositio take advantatagef the mental illness challenges by goioing ta good t teaching hospital, byby fifinding a good doctorand by takiking medication and engngagg in pchchotherapypy. and thehere were a lot t of peoe for r whom those things feel unavailable. the prospect of f trying to accs them, , even for people whoo theoretically should have some levell o of care, is completely overwhelming. we need very much to try to support those populations. nermeen: andrew solomon, one of the reasons that people e don't access mental hehealth care even when they y need it is that thte is still an enormous stigma attached to mental illness. you mentioned earlilier that mental healthh care is viewed as a luxury and physical health is privilileged over mental health, despite the obviously oftften lethal effect of mental illness. so could y you talk about thata, the stigmama attached to mental illness? anand also, in fact, some healh care clinicians have said that this pandemic, because it i is prododucing such widespread