china in this world will protect itself not just in east asia but globally. it's got some interests for example, most vividly over the last 10 years, no doubt the next great as well, it's need for commodities. and it will -- i think it will seek to project its values, however that we might see those, or however it might see them on a global basis. but i don't expect china to be a particularly military expansion forced. i will be quite surprised if it was. i think they're probably learned a lesson as well from the soviet union as well, disastrous approach that was. >> i'm interested to hear you say that because i was at annapolis recently at the naval academy. they regard china's submarine program as suspected aircraft carrier as evidence rather the opposite, but let me ask a second -- >> china is still extraordinary does not have an aircraft carrier. even italy has an aircraft carrier. i thought i would bring u.n. >> we will be doing, when a leave rules the world, next week. [laughter] >> let me ask a different question. this is the confucian tradition which

how far that will extend beyond the asia-pacific region and east china into the indian ocean remainsto be seen but they are demonstrating the capability to operate at longer ranges by virtue of their assistance to the international counterpiracy issue in the gulf of aden and their ability to sustain their operations. >> would you say the development of our relationships, that we are working with that. or not having the ability to have that level of discussion we are seeking. what are we doing about that? >> energy and regional security issues, seeking more transparency from the chinese and security policies. and particularly in southeast asia. secretary clinton has been booed southeast asia three times. remaining in contact with our friends and allies played an important role in addressing this. >> if i may touch on one aspect about transparency it is not strictly a defense but there is active engagement in the scientific and educational communities between china and the united states. that usually occurs in conferences under the department of energy or the department of the interior

in recent years, while we've been highly focused and events in the middle east and south asia, china's influence has grown in asia as well as beyond. and i'm pleased that the obama administration prioritized the united states and china's security relationship and encouraged by the joint statement that raumted from the president's recent visit to china. i welcome the administration's efforts to increase u.s. and china relations and cooperation in areas of common interests ranging from counterterrorism and nonproliferation to energy security. we must work together with china for the settlement of conflicts and reduction of retentions that contribute to global and regional instact including denuclearization of korean peninsula and the situation in south asia. i particular welcome the administration's support for increasing military to military contacts i've long viewed contacts is essential. it builds trust, promotes understanding, prevents conflicts and it fosters cooperation, and given my own visits to china in recent years i know how important these relationships are. looking back at u

it was almost exactly a year ago that the secretary -- you will recall her first trip to east asia.at we attach to this region. as we continue our work in the coming years, we will look to the wilson center and our colleagues here today and most of you in the audience who are working on these issues for wisdom and insight going forward. it is a very timely moment for a conference on asian security in the korean peninsula. at this audience knows, 20 tent is an important year of anniversaries. -- 2010 is an important year anniversaries. peace has been a central consideration for the united states. even though our focus on the region has been in during, this is an inappropriate time for us to reflect on what has changed, as well as -- this is an appropriate time for us to reflect on what has changed. at the same time, it is a cautionary tale. the divergent paths persued by north and south korea. nations that are fully engaged in that respect the fundamental rights of their citizens prosper and progress. those that choose isolation and oppression do not. i do not need to remind this dis

it was almost exactly a year ago that the secretary -- you will recall her first trip to east asia. it reflected the importance that we attach to this region. as we continue our work in the coming years, we will look to the wilson center and our colleagues here today and most of you in the audience who are working on these issues for wisdom and insight going forward. it is a very timely moment for a conference on asian security in the korean peninsula. at this audience knows, 20 tent is an important year of anniversaries. -- 2010 is an important year anniversaries. peace has been a central consideration for the united states. even though our focus on the region has been in during, this is an inappropriate time for us to reflect on what has changed, as well as -- this is an appropriate time for us to reflect on what has changed. at the same time, it is a cautionary tale. the divergent paths persued by north and south korea. nations that are fully engaged in that respect the fundamental rights of their citizens prosper and progress. those that choose isolation and oppression do not. i

and the issue was raised at the time well, you know, a lot of these countries which these were the east asia tigers by and large had had a history of more than a decade of incredibly high growth, low inflation, prosperity, and yet these countries had a very large current account deficits, a big current account deficits financed by borrowing from abroad and a lot of the borrowing was short-term borrowing so-called hot money leverage. people at the personal level at the household level and at the firm lovell indebtedness had gone up a lot. stock markets have gone up a lot. real-estate prices were soaring. construction activity was booming. there were shopping malls in the midst of the tight forest that were coming into being during this boom. so naturally post the question are you concerned that something like what is happening in mexico could happen here and the answer, and we got this from every country officials that we talk to was no, no. those things happen in latin america. they don't happen here. we have high savings rates. we have asian values. how many of you remember the asian crisis

globalization of the supply chain by which i mean when we think about other areas of the world like east asia or latin america or eastern europe, those economies produce things that are components to things that are built elsewhere and alternately are things that you and i by. if you went to walmart today you don't find too many things made in the middle east. not too many things that have components built in the arab world. we trade with many parts of the muslim world. we by oil or agricultural bias and they by finished goods. that doesn't mean those economies are participating in the global economy in a manner that favors these other economies. that is a very important factor. when we talk about a globalized world in which large parts of the world are integrated economically into one another. production and trade create relationships and networks between people. sitting outside of that global economic webb has consequences. those consequences have a lot to do with the reality on the ground in the muslim world in profound ways. one of the most important consequences is in many parts of the m

there were plenty of maps that-- over here is the east and this is what we now call the pacific. this is china, india, central asia, the middle east, europe appear and this is the most famous part of the map, the north america lapeer, the gulf of mexico here and the island of the caribbean. this is the region columbus explored and his long thin line is self america. the dominant visual impression you get from looking at the new world is this giant southern place and that is really what was making an impression on the europeans in the early days of discovery. it wasn't so much the west and this of the new world. it was obviously-- columbus pioneered a new route across the atlantic but thought he had reached asia so he and just about everybody thought he confirmed old geographical ideas. south america,, emir eggo vespucci road about in the late 14 90's and 1400's extended farther to the south and to part of the globe the people tended to think there wasn't any landing, and that made a big impression and we will get back to that in a minute. would dominates the map then is the southern part and that is why the cartog

so you're seeing european cyber criminals linking with latin america or the middle east and asia. very cystic and techniques. a lot of financial crimes taking place and others. and this is really a world-class problem and it's one i think can only be solved by better international cooperation or two in the parties. but as consumers, we've got to be very careful in our machines. i think we should all think, you know, twice before doing all of our banking online, for example. you want to be very careful in how you approach. i do my online banking with a separate machine that is only plugged in for maybe two minutes a week to execute those transactions and otherwise there's no financial records on any of my other computers. by the dedicated laptop for only that. >> host: do you advise that for everyone? >> guest: though good thing about networks and pcs getting cheap i think it's not a bad practice. but am trying to do is limit access people might have to my financial director. now an alternative is to stop using online banking completely. i'm not advocating that but there are progra

internationally, so you're seeing european cyber criminals linking with some in latin america or the middle east and asia. very sophisticated techniques, a lot of financial crimes that are taking place and others, and this is really a world class problem, and it's one, i think, can only be solved by better international corroboration between the parties. but as consumers, we've got to be very careful on our own machines, and i think we should all think twice before doing all of our banking online, for example. you want to be really careful in how you approach -- i do my online banking with a separate machine that is only plugged in for two minutes a week to execute those transactions, and otherwise there's no financial records on any of my computers. i have a dedicated laptop. >> host: do you advise that for everybody? >> guest: you know, the good news is with pcs getting as cheap as $200 each or 400, look, i think it's not a bad practice. what i'm trying to do is limit access people might have to my financial records. now, an alternative is to, you know, stop using online banking completely. i'm not adv

the president's trip to china -- and the region, demonstrated the importance we place on east asia which remains vital to u.s. security and prosperity. in the november joint statement, the chinese recognize the positive role that the united states plays by saying they welcome the united states has a an asia-pacific region that contributes to the peace in the region. it was also a continuation of our efforts to build a positive, cooperative, and comprehensive relationship between the united states and china. as president obama has said, the ability of the united states and china to partner is a prerequisite for progress on some of the most important issues of our times. those issues include several important security challenges. issues such as north korea and iran cannot be successfully addressed without intensive and sustained involvement by china. to date, we've been encouraged to cooperate. although there's a lot of work to be done. we obviously do not see eye to eye with the chinese on every issue. for example, on taiwan, the united states remains committed to our one-china policy bas

what we have forge new partnerships, as in yemen, to put pressure on these groups from east africa to southeast asia, from europe to the persian gulf. our progress has been unmistakable. we have disrupted terrorist financing, cut off recruiting trains and thwarted a plot here in the united states and saved countless american lives. as the christmas day attempt illustrates, and as we were reminded this week by the sacrifices of more red americans in afghanistan, including the 7 dedicated men and women of the cia, the hard work of protecting our nation is never done. we will ask the questions that need to be asked and make the changes that need to be made. let us debate the best way to protect the country we all love. that is the right and responsibility of every american and every elected official. our adversaries are those who would attack our country, not our fellow americans and not each other. instead of giving in to fear and cynicism, let's renew that timeless american spirit of resolve and confidence and optimism. instead of succumbing to partisanship and division, less some of the unity that t

it is not just east asia. it is parts of south asia as well. even in emerging eastern europe there are some stronger economy is beginning to show signs of vigor, such as poland. the third factor, a big unknown, is the turnaround level to occur in the corporate sector. one way of thinking about the downturn of 2009 is we had corporates adjusting very aggressively. in so doing turn their potentiafootage a position to of borrowing to substantial surplus. maybe that position will remain for the next six months, but my suspicion is that will increasingly turn into more corporate activity. whether on the capital spending side or the employment side. the test me to my fourth and final point. we will get a turn in the global employment picture. -- that takes me to my fourth and final point. desmond is the high unemployment and weak labor market as a reason for extended weakness. i would turn it on its head and say as the economy picks up in the u.s. we will see a turn in labor market conditions. we already see it in the high- frequency indicators. it w

it's latin america, and its parts of east asia, parts of south asia and latin america and even an emerging europe there are some strong economy is beginning to show signs of vigor such as poland. third factor is and this is i think the big unknown to extend a very important point not to lose sight of is the turnaround liable to occur in the corporate sector. one way of thinking about the downturn of 2009 is we had corporates adjusting it very aggressively. and in so doing turn the financial position from one of modest to win a substantial financial surplus. now maybe that financial surplus position will remain for the next six months, nine months by my suspicion is it will increasingly turn into a little more corporate activity and corporate optimism whether on the capital spending side or the employment side and that is my fourth final point which is i think we're going to get a turn in the global employment picture. desmond use the high level of unemployment in the u.s. and the weekly market as a reason for extending weakness and i would turn that point on its head and say as a the econo

east and this is the... up here and what we now call the pacific, china, india, central asia, middle east, europe up here, and africa obviously and then this is the most famous part of the map, north america up here and the gulf of mexico here and the islands of the caribbean and the region columbus explore and the long, long thin land mass is south america. the dominant visual impression you get from looking at the new world is this giant southern place and that is really what was making an impression on europeans in the early days of discovery. it wasn't owe much the westness of the new world, it was obviously -- a new route was pioneered across the atlantic and he thought he reached asia and he and everybody thought he confirmed old geographical ideas. south america, which -- america which was written about in the late 1490s and early 1500s extend far into the south, part of the globe people tended to think there wasn't any land in and that made a big impression and we'll get back to that in a minute. what dominates the map then is the southern part and that is why the cartographer, but the word america on

optic of barack obama putting on a lot of mileage on air force one, going to both north and south east asia as a benefit. it demonstrates we are back. there was a fundamental view among southeast asian nations and japan and korea that during the bush administration, the net is states was disengaged and it was not a priority. thus, when various architecture questions were coming up in the region, we were not perceive to be a player. one of his objectives by going appearing and going there, receiving the prime minister of japan has its first guests, hillary clinton making her first thought, was to demonstrate we're not making a false choice. we're going to simultaneously manage our growth with china, and we will be embedded with any discussion on broad art -- on broader architecture in the region. does asia matter more to you than the europeans? that ignited that. i think the broader question of japan and china, has this benefit it -- could another president have done something or achieve something he did not? it is a complex challenge. in my view, you have the historic change in leadership i

it is not just east asia. it is parts of south asia as well. even in emerging eastern europe there are some stronger economy is beginning to show signs of vigor, such as poland. the third factor, a big unknown, is the turnaround level to occur in the corporate sector. one way of thinking about the downturn of 2009 is we had corporates adjusting very aggressively. in so doing turn their potentiafootage a position to of borrowing to substantial surplus. maybe that position will remain for the next six months, but my suspicion is that will increasingly turn into more corporate activity. whether on the capital spending side or the employment side. the test me to my fourth and final point. we will get a turn in the global employment picture. -- that takes me to my fourth and final point. desmond is the high unemployment and weak labor market as a reason for extended weakness. i would turn it on its head and say as the economy picks up in the u.s. we will see a turn in labor market conditions. we already see it in the high- frequency indicators. it w

i lived a lot of places in the world including the middle east and asia and the idea of america being hated in my old age as it were compared to what it was when i was a youth i take almost personally. the berlin airlift is who we are, not the tortures. and i wanted to bring that story out to the extent i can reevaluate who we are, where we came from, what we do and what we don't do and i think that is what was tapped in the american of tom brokaw's america the greatest generation and he talks about considering it not the first battle of the cold war but the last battle, last year battle of world war ii. but so in the and if i represent the american people in my heart, these are the people i want to be. >> is a marvelous story and we've just scratched the surface tonight. but i think we have time for questions and what we would like to ask you to do is if you would come to the come is there a microphone on this site? , here and queue up as the british say. i'm sure richard would be happy to take your questions. >> [inaudible] as i was listening to the reading of the book i realized ho

it's an arc of crisis as they describe it going from europe across the middle east to south asia.nk. there's a legacy from the '60s of distrust, of the reasons given for goinglp to war. it was compounded enormously during the past 10 years under bfo@ eric there were 10 or 11 occasions when over 100,000 people protested. there were antiwar sentiments that made their way very rapidly into the mainstream. michael moore's fahrenheit movie, the dixie chicks, bush couldn't even suppress the dixie chicks, a texas band. the gallup poll showed that americans turned against iraq as a mistake faster than they turned against vietnam. so i think there's been on a cultural level and a political level, a slow antiwar movement. and the reason it's not always in the streets is because we had to be in the streets. and now you can be online or you can vote.ltk4j4(p&c"p%so there . i still favor the streets, or inside and outside strategy at the same time. and it's manifested itself around what i was saying about movements versus machiavellians in this way. the movement push public opinion. public opi

ruedapent 28 years in the ci mostly as an agent d station chief in the field, includi in the middle east and uth asia. his last assignment was dwep tee rector for counterintellince at the cia's counterterrorism center. where he dlt with double agent operations and secuty. heetired on january 1st on the heels of theoiled christmaday airliner plot and the deadlyouble agent attack oa remote cia tpost in afghanistan. i spoke to him earlier today at his home capitol hill a. thank u for being with us. >> thank you for havinme. >> warner:sama bin laden or a voice sayg he was osama bin laden th weekend iled the christmas day bomb attempt, the same attack that al qae had already taken crit for. now one, do you believe th is oma bin laden, but more importantly what-- if so, what does is a about how al qda is operating today? >> it's always hd to identify whether it him or not. but as far awe know there has never en a false osama bin laden tape. so t odds are that it probably is him. i think wh it tells us about al qaedas that we are now fang a more decentralid, flexible orgazation. al qaeda central will ta cla

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in asia, in the middle east, the people want to have quality cars and not plastic cars with a green machine. >>reporter: bmws new baby the minie is currently being fieldtrialed in the uk, germany and the united states. the allelectric vehicle has the backing of the german government as well as leading energy suppliers. the vehicles are leased to the drivers and, at the end of the year, bmw will take them back, dismantle them to learn how they handled in the real world. the big german carmakers are also working on hybrid vehicles which are much more popular in the united states. >>polleit: i think that people have understood the selling argument of having cars which are environmentally friendly, so sooner or later, the market will bring about these reforms and again, great progress has been made and i think there will be further progress down the road. >>pieper: theyve been forced to believe in it...theres no...theres not the motivation from these companies...theres no real belief in this as a future business ...i think they take the message and they know they have to do it because the polit

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do not leave the broader art middle east and southeast asia without talking about iran. en i talk about the broader middle east, it is to run to beirut. everything in between. there is a continuing concern with iran and its development, its strategic intent to have nuclear weapons and i think that would be incredibly de- stabilizing. not least of all because of the potential for an armor -- arms race in that part of the world which is what we don't need. as well as their continued support for terrorism, whether it is has a lot or hamas or other terrorist groups. hezbollah or hamas or other terrorist groups. anybody listening has watched the development and iran over the last couple of months. i am sure those will continue. i think we need to be mindful of those events, of what is going on there and clearly, the need to continue to, i think, aggressively address the nuclear potential issue internationally. there are discussions of additional sanctions right now. we need to continue where possible to engage and have a dialogue. i talked about the lyqy of trust between the u

issues an many of those years in the middle east and who retired in 1995 as the chief of the near east south asia division of the central intelligence agency and since that time, he's been providing consulting services to corporations. on middle eastern issues. and finally, to my far right, there is mark sageman, an independent researcher on terrorism, the founder of sageman consulting and the director of research at artist and a consultant for rti international. he has consulted for hour government, many branches of our government, foreign governments, the new york police department, he holds academic positions at georgetown university and the university of maryland. and he served in the central intelligence agency from 1984 to 1991, spending 1987 to 1989 in islamabad. running the u.s. unilateral programs with the afghan mujahadeen. also, marc is an author. his last two books is understanding terrorist networks and "leaderless job." this is an excellent panel, which reflects differing points of view on this issue, so without any further ado, let me ask bruce to come to the podium. gentleman. >>

the first big priority when i took this job was the broader middle east, south asia focus. it continues almost 2.5 years later. it continued to appeal the topple list. the second is that we have deployed our troops in ways we never imagined we could in 2000. in our army in particular up to that point, is what i call a garrison forced for the lid on bases here. they only went overseas and deployed during a time of war. the army is becoming like hard navy and marine corps in the sense that we deploy them, bring them back and deploy them again, almost like a ship or a group of ships. we did that in the navy and marine corps for ever. that is the illusion of change in our army. -- that is the evolution of change in our army. we are much different force that we were eight years ago. for our major units, our brigade combat teams, which is roughly 4000 soldiers, those teams are now the ones that went out first in 2003. they are about to start their fifth deployment. those deployments of worked six months, eight months, 12 months, 50 months on that -- 15 months on the order. if i w

issues an many of those years in the middle east and who retired in 1995 as the chief of the near east south asiaon of the central intelligence agency and since that time, he's been providing consulting services to corporations. on middle eastern issues. and finally, to my far right, there is mark sageman, an independent researcher on terrorism, the founder of sageman consulting and the director of research at artist and a consultant for rti international. he has consulted for hour government, many branches of our government, foreign governments, the new york police department, he holds academic positions at georgetown university and the university of maryland. and he served in the central intelligence agency from 1984 to 1991, spending 1987 to 1989 in islamabad. running the u.s. unilateral programs with the afghan mujahadeen. also, marc is an author. his last two books is understanding terrorist networks and "leaderless job." this is an excellent panel, which reflects differing points of view on this issue, so without any further ado, let me ask bruce to come to the podium. gentleman. >> thank y

east. this is not what we recall the pacific, china, india, central asia, the middle east, europe. , africahe and just about everybody thought that he confirmed old geographical ideas. south america, which amerigo vespucci wrote about, in the late 1490s and early 1500s, extended far into the south into a part of the globe that people tended to think there wasn't any land and. and that made a big impression. we will get back to that in a minute. what dominates the map that is the southern part, and that's why the cartographer put the word america. i was due in on. is probably on what today would be considered brazil. right there. that's the first use of the work. these guys made a name up and and put it on the map. as i said though there's much, much more to the map and just did depiction of the new world that i want to do a book for ra like me who is reasonably well-informed that really didn't know anything about the map or the history of really world mapping, would read and learn as much as possible from. and i wanted to come up with a will of making it kind of gripping narrative read. as

we've got to stop looking at the middle east, africa, asia, the rest of the world through the lens of counterterrorism. we have to broaden our understanding of the rest of the world and if obama is representing anything it is the idea that there is more to life than just worrying about your own security during narrowly defined. we have to broaden it to the net i think in congress right now we have a whole discussion and the discussion that has been brewing for quite a long time is one in which we are to going to say we've got to have human rights, environmental and labor standards and we've also got to if globalization is the reality than the reality goes hand in hand with labor and environmental the human-rights standards so it's kind of the movement but this disjointed and sporadic. let's work together on it. >> i think that what donner and set about the importance of governance is absolutely fundamentalist as somebody that has worked on the middle east for a good many years. i can say that in fact quite of the problem with hamas and fatah has a lot to do with governments. so i thin

don't leave the broader middle east and south asia without talking about iran, usually when i talk about the broader middle east, and academicly i may get this wrong but it is tehran beirut and everything in between. and you notion the continuing concern with iran and the develop mechblt its --. i believe strategic intent to have nuclear weapons -- i think that would be incredibly destabilizing, not the least of all because of the potential for an arms race in that war which is what we do not need. as well as their continued support for terrorism whether it is hezbollah or hamas, or other terrorist groups that they are -- they are supporting. so, and certainly, i like, i am sure like everybody in this room, and anybody listening have watched the developments in iran over the last several months. and i am sure that those will continue. i think that we need to be mindful obviously, of those events. of those -- what is going on there. including the need to i think, aggressively address the nuclear potential and nuclear weapons issue. internationally. discussions right now of additional sanc

minister counselor and has extensive experience in international development in the middle east, north africa and asiar asia and he has held a number of other important jobs in india, islamabad, and was the director of u.s. aid congressional delegation to office from 2000- 2003. i will now turn it over to jim. we will then follow with alex and then paul. jim, thank you. >> thank you, very much. çóthank you for inviting us and usaid. general jones did an excellent job of laying out the strategic and policy imperatives of the barack obama of administration. Ñii would notÑi pretend to elabe on that. i will takeÑi one " from presidt obama is aÑi speech at west poit in early december were he said çóthat we needed a civilian presence on the ground and the region, particularly afghanistan. our efforts will fail if we shortchange this effort. our efforts will fail in afghanistan if we do not invest in their future. we expect to beÑi involved in afghanistan and pakistan for quite a long time on the civilian side. we're committed to building a lasting partnership said you heard general jones talk about that. as

but it acknowledged it's training children from pakistan, afghanistan, central asia and the middle easto be suicide bombers. parents sent their children for this center for the free food and religious education. but the military says the taliban had other plans for them. >> these terrorists keep the children at the frontline and mostly the casualties were of children when they were attacking the posts. >> reporter: dozens were killed in this marketplace after a teenager blew himself up in october. although there are no statistics on how many suicide attacks are carried out by teens, the government realizes it's a growing problem. zahid hussein agrees. >> almost 90% of the suicide bombers, if you look at their profile, they are between the age of 12 to 18. >> reporter: innocent children turned into cold-blooded killers, fooled by fantastic images of paradise. arwa damon, cnn, pakistan. >>> it is heaven for gadget lovers. the latest smartphones and tvs and other electronic devices all under one roof in las vegas. we'll speak live with an expert to find out what's getting the biggest buzz

don't leave the broader middle east and south asia without talking about iran. usually when i talk about the broader middle east, i may academically get this wrong, but it's sort of tehran to beirut and everything in between and, you know, the continuing concern with iran and its development, its -- i believe its strategic intent to have nuclear weapons, and i think that would be incredibly destabilizing. not least of all, because of the potential for an arms race in that world, which is exactly what we don't need. as well as their continued support for terrorism, whether it's hamas or hezbollah or other terrorist groups that they are supporting an certainly i like anybody in this room or listening has watched the developments in iran over the last several months and i am sure that those will continue and i think we just need to be mindful obviously of those events, of what's going on there, and clearly the need to continue to, i think, aggressively address the potential nuclear weapons issues internationally. there are discussions right now of additional sanctio

don't leave the broader middle east and south asia without talking about iran, usually when i talk aboutthe broader middle east, and@@@b terrorist groups that they are -- they are supporting. so, and certainly, i like, i am sure like everybody in this room, and anybody listening have watched the developments in iran over the last several months. and i am sure that those will continue. i think that we need to be mindful obviously, of those events. of those -- what is going on there. including the need to i think, aggressively address the nuclear potential and nuclear weapons issue. internationally. discussions right now of additional sanctions. and to continue where possible to engage and to have a dialogue. i talked about the lack of trust between the united states and pakistan. built very well on that 12-year gap. which we are renew sog we are 4 to 5 years back into establishing working to establish that trust. >> we have got a relationship with iraq that goes back about 6 years now. to 2003. as we look for a long-term relationship, with iraq. when i am in afghanistan. i get the same qu

he retired in 1995 as the chief of the near east/south asia division of the central intelligence agency. since that time, he is been providing consulting services to corporations on middle eastern issues. finally, to my far right, there is marc sageman, an independent researcher on terrorism. he is the director of research and a consultant for rti international. he has consulted for our government, many branches of our government, foreign governments, the new york police department. he holds academic positions at george washington university and university of maryland. he served in the central intelligence agency from 1984 until 1991. he spent 1987 to 1989 in islamabad. he was running the u.s. unilateral programs with the afghan mujahideen. he is also an author. his last two books are "understanding terror networks" and "leaderless jihad." this is an excellent panel the reflects differing points of view on the issue. let me ask for us to come to the podium without further ado. >> thank you for the generous introduction. it is a pleasure to be here. i have had the pleasure of speaking to

so again, broadley, first of a priority when i took this job was broader middle east, south asia focus. and it continues almost two and a half years later, it continues to be at the top of the list. the second is that we have deployed our forces in ways that we never imagined we could, quite frankly, in 2000. and our army in particular up until that point was what i call a garrison force. they lived on base is. they only went overseas or they only deployed during a time of war. in the army, in many ways, it our army is becoming like our navy and our marine corps in the sense that now we deploy them, we bring them back and we deploy them again. almost like a ship or a group of ships, which will do in the navy and the marine corps for ever. that's the evolution of change in our army. our air force has become much the same pic so we are a much different force that we were eight years ago. in fact, this change what does it mean. but for our major units, our brigade combat teams, which roughly 3500, 4000 soldiers, those teams are now, the one who went out first in 2003, they are about to st

we've got to stop looking at the middle east, africa, asia, the whole rest of the world as a counterterroristve got to broaden out and understand the rest of the world. and if obama isn't representing anything it is the idea that there's more to life than just worrying about your own security, very narrowly defined. we've got to broaden it. so i think that in congress right now. the whole discussion on frame and that is a discussion brewing for quite a long time is one in which we are going to say we've got to have human rights, environmental, and labor standards and we've also got to have global leeson unturned -- globalization will go hand-in-hand with labor and environmental human right standards. and so it's kind of a movement, but it's very disjointed and sporadically put together. >> i think that what he said about the importance of governance is absolutely fundamental as somebody was worked on the middle east for a number of years i can say that in fact part of the problem with hamas and thoughts has a lot to do with governance. i think that this issue is absolutely essential. >> i jus

created in 1994 was under to reopen the lost dream of trading the land to the middle east and europe through central asia one of the first things that they were supposed to have done. that is a promise that is still unrealized. there are great positive impacts for energy and trade and other initiatives, and those are so unexplored at the moment, and i think there is an enormous amount of potential. the final thing i will say -- something to look out for that was supposed to be highlighted more at the london conference and probably will be is the question of international civilian leadership. this has been a problem in afghanistan and is looking like this may continue to be a problem. people have left the contest to become special representatives for the united nations. there was an announcement that there would be a new senior civilian representative, not bringing together the different international -- international civilian representation. it is a lot for them to deal with all of us. unless we are more coherent in the efforts, we are unlikely to convince them to do the same. and we need to beat a more

from east africa to southeast asia, from europe to the persian gulf. though often out of sight, our progress has been unmistakable. along with our partners, we have disrupted financing, cut off recruiting chance, but did major losses on their leadership, for plots and the united states, and saved countless american lives. as the christmas day attempt illustrates, as we were reminded sweep of the sacrifices of more brave americans and afghanistan, including the 7 dedicated men and women of the cia, the hard work of protecting the nation is never done. as we continue, let's ask the questions that need to be asked. let's make the changes that need to be made. let's debate the best way to protect the country that we all love. that is the right and responsibility of every american and every elected official. as we look forward, remember this, our adversaries are those who attack our country, not our fellow americans, not each other. let us never forget what has always carried us through times of trial, including those attacks eight septembers ago. instead o

he retired in 1995 as the chief of the near east and south asia division of the central intelligence agency. and since that time he has been providing consulting services to corporations on middle eastern issues. and finally, to my far right there is mark stedmasageman, the founder of sageman consulting. he has consulted for our government, many branches of our government, foreign governments, the new york police department'. he holds academic positions at the george washington year's end university of maryland. and he served in the central intelligence agency from 1984 to 1991, spending 1987 to 1989 in islamabad. where he ran the u.s. unilateral programs with afghan mujahideen. he is also an author. his last two books were "understanding terror networks" and "a leaderless jihad. without any further ado, i would like to ask bruce to come to the podium. >> thank you for that very generous and kind introduction. it is a pleasure to be here. i have had the privilege of speaking to this forum before and is always a great honor to be here, especially in the neck of the sun room like this.

-japan security alliance we emphasize the importance of asia and further develop the vision of an east asian community. this is one of the reasons why it is important to resolve the issue of moving the u.s. air base. we need to respect the feelings of the citizens of okinawa but at the same time there is an existing agreement between japan and the u.s.. these are my honest feelings, and i don't believe that i have been dealing on this issue. we need to set a deadline and over the next few months, with a solution that will work for both the people of okinawa and the american people. we've created a committee with members of the three governing parties which promise will thoroughly debate this issue and produce an outcome. this is critical to the very important u.s. japan's security relationships i hope in the future people will look back and say it might have taken some time but to the hatoyama produced a solution to this problem. the coming year is not just a critical year for the democratic party of japan or the coalition government. it will be crucial in with their politics returns t

east of the island of hiss pan ya. they say this major fault is similar to the one that caused the devastating 2004 tsunami in south asia. jennifer joins us from the international weather center. she's going to give us a look at what haiti faces weatherwise he in the coming hours. rain in haiti is not a good thing, because there's so much deforestation there and so much infrastructure that when it rains in port-au-prince you can be knee-deep in water in seconds because it has nowhere to go. >> that's right. it has nowhere for any of that water to go. i'm passionate about what's happening across haiti. when it happens during hurricane season, of course you really feel for the people because they really just don't have anything to work with. of course, that area is so deforested. let's update you on the earthquake situation. magnitude, 7.0. very close to port-au-prince. since then we've seen 24 aftershocks. look at some of them ranging from 5.1 to 5.9. this 5.9 is enough to do enough damage. these are aftershocks that have happened since the initial one took place around 5:00. just to give you an idea, of course, this is

what we've done in our efforts not simply to confront in southeast asia the threats of terrorism but but in africa, in the middle easthe continued steps that we have to take in order to see those through. and to continue to keep our country safe, which is his primary job. >> stay the course? >> i'm sorry? >> stay the course? >> i think what the president -- i think the president believes and the national security team believes that we have made progress on dealing with renewed threats. and dealing with new threats. again, john brennan and others visited -- visited with the yemeni government to discuss our efforts in yemen. to discuss our efforts in somalia. to discuss our efforts throughout that region in the country long before they burst out into the newspapers. [inaudible] >> if the president is thinking in the u.s. off a new tape from osama bin laden but it's not video tapes but now only audiotapes. >> no, i'm sorry. >> there was at the carnegie a special event with president obama and terrorism around the globe including in the u.s. and what the president of carnegie want to and others including the special bbc

these are a shift in the geometry of asia generally in korea is very much involved in this government has committed to working with russia on the development of the far east this nuclear export policy, they are very proud and it is a dramatic shift in their role and as i am sure you know the u.s. is already part of that, they're going to get out of billion dollars of the parts production for this and they intend to expand all of the southeast asia is looking to create support for the nuclear power in visions so this is an area where the u.s. if it were to return to a kind of roosevelt approach to policy instead of the current mess could play a dramatic role with the rest of the countries in what i think is the new frontier for the human race right now which is the development of the eurasian region and i would be interested in what mike and scott as well have to say on that. >> other comments? >> there is a situation with nuclear weapons, but in terms of energy security i think you are very light. traditionally korea, a lot of technology exports from the u.s. but now korea is trying to export these to other developing countries that there is a place how t