even compared this to the infamous secret police in east germany and that of the justice minister said the reports of two alarming to be ignored and former m i five agent she says the inconsistency between germany's official and the surveillance stance and its own operations would trigger much more anger and an awful lot more questions. we have a situation in germany where because of their historic experiences with the stop in world war two in the stars in east germany they put in place a very strong cast on constitution to protect people from invasion of their pretty pink spied on and this is what the germans have for decades taken for granted they have certain legal protections i'm going to see this time and again when other european like lots of try to impose on germany where you know things like her facial recognition date are all google face to face that have been found in germany and yet the b.m.d. and even to intelligence agencies in germany have been doing this sort of spying so i think the hypocrisy it's quite astounding i'm ok it's a great deal of anger and questions rightly

went as far as comparing the practice to the stars east germany's him from a secret police and the justice minister said the reports were too alarming to be ignored well former m i five agent and he says historical context adds to the controversy we have a situation in germany where because of their historic experiences with the stop in world war two in the stars in east germany they put in place a very strong cast iron constitution to protect people from invasion that their pretty pink spied on and this is what the germans have for decades taken for granted they have certain legal protections and we've seen this time and again when other european wide laws of trying to be imposed on germany where you know things like her facial recognition date or on google face facebook have been banned in germany and yet the b.m.d. and the f.e.c. the two intelligence agencies in germany have been doing this sort of spying so i think the hypocrisy is quite astounding and it a great deal of anger and questions rightly to how much the german government knew about what was going on. meanwhile the diplomatic

even compared this to the infamous secret police of east germany and the justice minister said the reports are just too alarming to be ignored or former m i five agent or any rational and she says the inconsistency between germany's official and the surveillance stance and its own operations will only trigger more questions and an awful lot more anger we have a situation in germany where because of their historic experiences with ixtapa in world war two in the stars in east germany they put in place a very strong cast iron constitution to protect people from invasion that they're pretty even being spied on and this is what the germans have for decades taken for granted they have certain legal protections and we've seen this time and again when other european like a lot of try to be imposed on germany where you know things like her facial recognition data or google face at facebook have been banned in germany and yet the b.m.d. and the the two intelligence agencies in germany have been doing this sort of spine so i think the hypocrisy is quite astounding and will create a great deal of ange

the reason germany is so sensitive is actually because of what went on in east germany and that's why they claim they are into their privacy. it is not really surprising and we should allow the germans -- >> under their own government. >> come on. east germany before the war fell it was a nightmare. >> there was a separate of germany. >> this is why in the current generations it is about freedom. >> it is mind boggling that the u.s. can't keep track of people like snowden. what was he a minimum wage snooper for two or three weeks and then is able to walk out with everything he needs. >> and also, what about the idea that he actually took the job with the express purpose of doing that? >> and he told his interviewer, look, i am not planning on -- you are going to have to pay me benefits because i will only be here a couple weeks. >> just a little while and then i am taking off. bill, to help things run smoothly on "red eye" i have andy spy on you and you spy on andy. he enjoys it and you enjoy it and you have stuff on each other. >> the element of cloak and dagger before our meetings i

it will turn us into east germany. in east germany at the very end before was liberated most frequently prosecuted crime was failure to report another crime. how did they know you knew about another crime and didn't report it? because they heard everything you said on the telephone and because they read your mail. do we really want that kind of society here? if we don't stop this, that is what is coming in. latin america, it's dumfound to go me they would do it. >> neil: i could see, tracking exchanges between them and the united states. ecuador and relations with the united states but its stretch even then? >> to suggest that they should listen to phone calls from people just on the basis of where they are sending the call without evidence that the receiver of the call is an evil person and the call may contain evidence. >> neil: what if they are just collecting records. the judge phoned a lot of people in caracas and they phoned him? >> would you trust them if they say, hey, neil, we have transcript email you have se

one couple one particular, what became east germany. and that particular woman figures very prominently in this book. she was responsible for in this plantation, she and her husband running a farm. and this is another case. they were jews that were trying to flee from the railway transport, the boxcars and would end up trying to find refuge. in this couple would hunt him down. they had a special site on the farm, and actual killing site. and this figure, she was on her about gays serving coffee and cake and overheard the man talking or wish to be done. even how they should be killed, the proper method. so one day a jewish boy she flies along the side of the road leading to her state, brought him back to the house, calmed him down, fed than 70. they gained the trust. then she is courted them to the back. that is a pretty detailed story. i can tell you that story because she was arrested by the east germans, by the stasi and subjected to some pretty harsh interrogation in 1960, 61 with her husband. so they confessed to these crimes. i hav

east germany isn't east germany. >> stephanie: all right. that's my point. go ahead?n this that spying on everybody all the time, it is inefficient for one thing. >> stephanie: that's what meta data is. it is a lot of data. >> the wilsons are talking about that too. "the guardian" piece i was reading from about sure, you think you have nothing to hide. so far. until someone decides that something you've said or did you know, an overzealous prosecutor can link you to someone because you shared some kind of e-mail connection. you know. you can be -- >> stephanie: that's a good point, jim but you sound really guilty. >> put on a no-fly list. jim ward. >> probably another jim ward out there. >> stephanie: stop it! 45 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." cenk off air>>> and they can question if i'm right about that. but i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. cenk on air>>> 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts! narrator>>> uniquely progressive and always topical the worlds largest online news show is on current tv. cenk off air>>> a

germany where because of their historic experiences with the stop in world war two in the stars in east germany they put in place a very strong cast on constitution to protect people from invasion that they're pretty pink spied on and this is what the germans have for decades taken for granted they have certain legal protections and we've seen this time and again when other european like lots of try to be imposed on germany where you know things like kind of facial recognition data or google face at facebook have been banned in germany and yet the b.m.d. and the the two intelligence agencies in germany have been doing this sort of spying so i think the hypocrisy it's quite astounding and it's a great deal of anger and questions rightly to how much the german government you know that what was going on. and you can always head online for more stories and the latest updates here's a taste of what we have lined up for you right now things got a little shaky in new zealand a six point five magnitude earthquake rattled quite a few residents in a remote archipelago but fortunately no one was seriously

embassy on sunday comparing washington's spying tactics to east germany's infamous secret police the stand was carried out by the hacktivist group anonymous just a week after a similar action by a notorious internet activist came dot com. residents of the district of london could soon be out on the streets authorities say people living in lambeth social housing blocks need to be relocated because the council can't afford to keep them. has been gauging their reaction. it is said to be his castle but now those living in social housing here in the london borough of lovebirds fighting a fierce legal battle to save their homes if you. have a cease fire an old negotiate a treaty which. recognize julian and his neighbors live in what's been dubbed short life housing there used to be thousands of such chains in lamberth now there are just seventy five short life housing came about some thirty years ago when the councils who couldn't afford to maintain these properties gave people who needed than the opportunity to live here for little or no rent on the basis that they maintain them now thoug

where because of their historic experience its critics joppa in world war two and the stars in east germany they put in place a very strong castalia constitution to protect people from invasion that they're pretty pink spied on and this is what the germans have for decades taken for granted they have certain legal protections and we've seen this time and again when other european like lots of try to be imposed on germany where you know things like facial recognition data over google face facebook have been banned in germany and yet the b.m.d. and the intelligence agency in germany have been doing this sort of spine so i think the hypocrisy is is quite astounding it's a great deal of anger and questions right to how much the german government you know that what was going on meanwhile the whistleblower responsible for exposing german cooperation with of the n.s.a. is still stranded at a moscow airport awaiting russia's decision on his application for temporary asylum edward snowden is currently on the run from u.s. authorities for lifting the lid on their global spying program however he need

embassy on sunday comparing washington's spying tactics to east germany's infamous intelligence service the stop was carried out by activist group anonymous just a week after a similar action by the online activists dot com. syrian state television has announce the army has discovered a rebel operated chemical laboratory packed with toxic substances the military claims they were destined to be packed into mortars and used to attack government forces in damascus it comes a week after the army far more than two hundred eighty barrels of hazardous chemicals at a rebel hideout in a different city the syrian u.n. ambassador claimed it was potentially enough to devastate a whole city and a geisha of chemical weapons being used by both sides have been a crucial issue in the international dispute on health to handle the conflict in syria both the rebels and assad's forces have repeatedly made claims and counterclaims over the use of nerve gas belgian journalists will be closely following the syrian conflict says the allegations of rebels using chemicals sound very familiar. there wouldn't be a

embassy on sunday comparing washington's spying tactics to east germany's infamous intelligence service was carried out by the hacktivist group anonymous just a week after a similar action by the online activists came on our website at the moment fifteen minutes past the hour now the news continues here and i'll take. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything. i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. which. we can with. some of. the consensus. choose the opinions that you. choose the stories that impact. choose. to. many cities across the u.s. have been in gulf in protests after a controversial court verdict thousands express their anger at the equal of george zimmerman who shot dead unarmed black teenager trayvon martin what is more important has more. but justice for trayvon protests as they're being called drew tens of thousands of americans into the streets throughout the weekend in many cities like new york their crowd was much bigger than most antic

embassy on sunday comparing washington's spying tactics to east germany's infamous secret police or the stunt masterminded by a german artist that of all of. the notorious online activist kim dotcom who has also claimed what he called eight truth projection on his twitter. for now on the program on r.t. egypt's new government is slowly taking shape amid continuing protests by supporters of the deposed president mohamed morsi and with mass demonstrations on the horizon the u.s. under secretary of state bill burns is expected to talk to the country's new leaders later on monday and the come down on islamists for the prosecution freeze assets of fourteen of the brotherhood's leaders and in a pretty clear nod to washington the government picked two of the most western leaning diplomats for the top posts in the interim government a key opposition figure and former chief of the u.n. nuclear watchdog the i.a.e.a. mohamed el baradei he's become a vice president of foreign affairs of the former ambassador right there to america and me he becomes the nation's foreign minister a middle east journa

america appeared in the walls of the us embassy on sunday comparing washington spying tactics to east germany's infamous intelligence service and the stunt was carried out by this group anonymous just a week after a similar action by the online activist dot com i should say. egypt's military backed government is pressing on with its transition plan despite supporters of the else to president morsi continuing their protests the government features at least two western leaning officials in key posts and u.s. deputy secretary of state william burns has already met some of the new officials in current the former u.n. nuclear chief mohamed el baradei has now become a vice president covering foreign affairs and our country's foreign minister is next egyptian ambassador to the u.s. army opponents of the muslim brotherhood have released a document on social media they say came from the group and it apparently shows the organization calling for more bloodshed and the disbanding of the egyptian middle east journalist barry lando says the islamists still need to be involved in the political process. the b

embassy on sunday comparing washington spying tactics to east germany's infamous intelligence service the stunt was carried on by hacktivist group anonymous just a week after a similar action by the online activists came dot com. egypt's military branch of government is pressing on with its transition plan despite supporters of the ousted president morsy continuing their protest u.s. deputy secretary of state william burns is in cairo to talk to the new government which features two western leaning officials in key parts the former u.n. nuclear chief mohamed el baradei has now become a vice president covering foreign affairs and the country's foreign ministry as x. adoption ambassador to the u.s. bill fahmy meanwhile apartments of the muslim brotherhood have released a document on social media they say came from the group it apparently shows their own eyes ation calling for more bloodshed and there is a finding of the egyptian army middle east journalist barry nando's says the islamists still need to be involved in the political process. and the big question is what what power will th

germany where because of their historic experiences with the stop in world war two and the stars in east germany they put in place a very strong castalian constitution to protect people from invasion that pretty pink spite of them and this is what the germans have for decades taken for granted they have certain legal protections and we've seen this time and again when other european models of trying to impose on germany where you know things like kind of facial recognition google face facebook have been banned in germany and yet the b. and d. and the f. even two intelligence agencies in germany have been doing this sort of spine so i think the hypocrisy is is quite astounding and it's a great deal of anger and questions rightly to how much the german government you know about what was going on. as a whistleblower himself awaiting russia's decision on whether to grant him temporary asylum snowden who exposed the u.s. global spy program as well as the secret surveillance operations of a number of european states holed up in the transit zone of a moscow airport for more than three weeks he needs th

where because of their historic experience its critics in world war two in the style of the in east germany they put in place a very strong castalia constitution to protect people from invasion that they're pretty convinced spied on and this is what the germans have for decades taken for granted they have certain legal protections and we've seen this time and again when other european like lots of try to impose on germany where you know things like facial recognition data over google face that facebook has been banned in germany and yet the b.m.d. and the intelligence agency in germany have been doing this sort of spine so i think the hypocrisy is is quite astounding and it's a great deal of anger and questions right to how much the german government you know that what was going on meanwhile the whistleblower responsible for exposing german cooperation with the n.s.a. is still stranded at a moscow airport awaiting russia's decision on his application for temporary asylum edward snowden is currently on the run from u.s. authorities for lifting the lid on their global spying program however h

most grave attack on privacy in the world in history far surprise surprising what starseed did in east germany and back in the cold war days do you think this is a continuation it's a new reality with the new technology and the new media online and it should be a thing that we can look to with optimism and and hopefully see change in the future chris anything you can see the changes already do you think anybody any potential future whistleblowers in the services around the world tonight already clear about how far they can push this when they're breaching secrets how far they can push it what they can get away with if you like is the picture any clearer for them. the picture or at least clearer that they will not. phase life imprisonment or death sentence for ridiculous charges for aiding the enemy if they are revealing issues and information showing war crimes we have seen that despite the way that bradley manning was treated. being tortured in prison in isolation in solitary confinement for almost a year it has not stopped whistleblowers and there are still brave people out there who act on

surveillance methods to the infamous east germany during the cold war find faults in store for him as. divisions between islam is in syria and the rest of the opposition have reached a critical level a key free syrian army commander has been killed by al-qaeda linked militants and the group responsible also threatened all other commandos western backed forces the situation the war torn country has forced some nations to rethink supplying the rebels with weapons even the u.s. has put the plan on hold concerned they will end up in the wrong hands they have to say has been trying to distance itself from radical groups puting dissent within the assad opposition but political writer john white believes that even the groups are now at the lower heads there's still a little difference between them and this this opposition as a whole legal bunch of groups most of them out here the affiliates we know that there's an arm for the third and fourth and you have this of the country who are in pain and coming syria into a killing field as the of the entire region so this is no longer about trying to

it feels like east germany. neil: that is the risk. doing anything high-tech.ou are going stale male. >> they start snatching lette in bottles of the ocean and we know we're sunk. neil: i am wondering if there would go after my victory farms package. there are suspicious, i grant you, but is just food. anyway, thank you. great job, as always. the good news is bought -- jobs are booming. why are small business as uting? may be because they don't see it or maybe because they don't count. we let them record in you decide. a comeback in the works? ♪ neil: nearly 30,000 more jobs than we expected. close to 200,000 in all, and it is the economy last month. continuing to train steady. that is been going on for many months. but if things are so good, why are some small business guys convinced it is not at all good? david macarthur and caterer extraordinaire say that if this is the recovery firing up then they might as well just pack up. you are fed up. what is going on? >> well, what is scary to me, those numbers, i was just saying here in studio, the unemployment numb

if we let the police willy-nilly follow us wherever we go we will be like east germany. >> eric: nsag us, they can look back and find out what we were saying. isn't this the same thing? >> yes, it is. it is local police picking up on what the feds could get away with. this is why it was profoundly wrong for federal judges on fisa court saying to verdicts give us all the phone records and data of 113 million people. they are looking for a phone call that eric boling had with someone in the middle or andrew napolitano had with the middle east. they can look at the records but why do you need the records of 113 million people. constitution says they have to particularize what they want. they can't run a dragnet. >> eric: we have just about a minute. there are things in use where they can videotape a section of a city. they can take it and put the videotape away and if something happens in that city they can go band ago take a look, they can read the time on my watch. is that legal? >> senator rand paul is holding up the nomination for the f.b.i. until his predecessor robert mueller. the

it feels like east germany. neil: that is the risk. doing anything high-tech.ou are going stale male. >> they sta snatching letters in bottles of the ocean and we know we're sunk. neil: i am wondering if there would go after my victory farms package. there are suspicious, i grant you, but is just food. anyway, thank you. great job, as always. the good news is bought -- jobs are booming. y are small business as routing? may be because they don't see it or maybe because they don't count. weet them record in you decide. decide. a comeback in the works? america, welcome home the brave. the brave men and women who served their country are coming home. home to their families and friends. home to america. some of these warriors are coming home with wounds you can see, and some with wounds you can't see, like post-traumatic stress disorder. help us make their return to america as seamless and successful as possible. contact woded warrior project at findwwp.org. welcome home the brave. ♪ neil: nearly 30,000 more jobs than we expected. close to 200,000 in all, and it is

it feels like east germany. neil: that is the risk. doing anything high-tech.ou are going stale male. >> they start snatching letters in bottles of the ocean and we know we're sunk. neil: i am wondering if there would go after my victory farms package. there are suspicious, i grant you, but is just food. anyway, thank you. great job, as always. the good news is bought -- jobs are booming. why are small business as routing? may be because they don't see it or maybe because they don't count. we let them record in you decide. a comeback in the works? ♪ the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mher! traveling is easy with the venture card because you can fly any airline anytime. two words. double miles! this guy can act. wanna play dodge rock? oh, you guys! and with double miles you can actuay use, you nevever miss the fun. beard growing contest and go! ♪ win! what's in your wallet? ♪ neil: nearly 30,000 more jobs than we expected. close to 200,000 in all, and i

if you don't have anything to hide, okay well, then you should have live in soviet union or east germanyt in america that's not how we operate. but in the last poll, 55% saying he was a whistle blower, and 34% saying he's a traitor. it has flipped. the people are saying i'm not buying it. the republicans are saying it. the democrats are saying it. but still 55% say he's no, he's a whistle blower. telling us what is of us what the government is doing wrong. >> americans coming of age and becoming sophisticateed of what the government is can do. my dad is in a third world country, and i grew up with a pessimistic view of what government can could now they're seeing what government and what is really going on. >> cenk: imagine what the next republican president can do. karl rove targeted his enemies etc. but obama targets his enemies his enemy like snowden. he threatens to imprison him for live, never let him see the light of day. never talk to reporters and never rally the american people. if you cross me and reveal what i'm doing i will put you in a dark hole and never let you out. power

ourselves, exposing our innermost thoughts and behavior to the government will eventually turn us into east germany government knows who did wrong and the government who knows who knows who did wrong and the government prosecutes people who didn't squeal on their neighbors. in the last five years of that society, the most frequently prosecuted crime was the failure to turn in one's neighbor. do we really want that society here? that's what this will bring us here. >> no, we do not. what do you say about two respected libertarians. you know who they are. they wrote they would be more effective if they could identify a pattern of abuses. after 12 years of continuing practices, they can't cite a single case. >> they are friends of mine and friends and colleagues of yours. we disagree profoundly. if seizing the private thoughts of every american is not a pattern of government abuse, i don't know what is. think of it this way. the government's powers derive from the consent. did you consent to this? do you know anybody who did? >> people at the terrorism fear is overblown but people who are frightened c

people compared economic reforms to hungary or yugoslavia or east germany which seemed like the most successful, economically successful of the eastern bloc. so i think that just goes to underline how unlikely and how surprising these changes were when they happened. and as i tell in the book, a great way to tell this story in china is by going back and looking at what people were looking at at the time. i have this story where an american investor is brought to a place and told he should invest and he just sees water buffalo and rice paddies. that place they took him to which is a city that has the population of new york city and your ipad was made there, right? i think there are a lot of great ways to tell the story. some people told them at the time, very, very vividly. there have been great books right at the time of these changes in china but nowadays i think people have forgotten that story. so i had a lot of fun trying to bring it back to life. >> host: that raises a question that applies both to china and i think across the stories that you look at in the book. and that is, h

and they are mindful of what happened to west germany when east germany collapsed. they don't want that to happen. >> how about china's more broadly defined responsibility as a major power in the world? north korea, syria, a raw, sedan , will that chinese literature become more naturally accepting of international requests to do the right thing in those areas? >> i think there will. you know, there has been a process where we and others have been trying to coax them out not to of year the influence, but to hope for them to participate in the solution of international issues that to not necessarily directly involved in. i mean, the middle east directly involves them. you don't have to invite and there. suddenly the north koreans. but to it is a process because that tradition has been not to get involved if you can help it. the old chinese saying that it is better to have one. butanone. and so i think it is gradually changing. also, they have to learn how to do -- how to get involved. ..

have a settlement on germany by the end of this year we will take unilateral action to recognize east germany and the like the access of west berlin from the last. kennedy thought war was coming. khrushchev was as provocative as could be. the berlin wall went up a couple months later. in its way it actually tamped down one major source of instability, and that was the mass exodus of east berliners and east germans through to west berlin, but is still signaled another ratchet up of the war, and then, of course christopher has said -- has his idea. that was that he would put intermediate range nuclear weapons into cuba, do it secretly, to it before americans to start -- discovered it, give them a taste of their own medicine because the u.s., both eisenhower and kennedy had put short range and intermediate range nuclear weapons right on the soviet border, notably in turkey and italy. and so khrushchev was going to even the score, stop an invasion of cuba by the united states, a return invasion, show what it means to have nuclear weapons right up against your borders. what is fascinating about th

one couple in the particular from what became east germany, um, and that figure, that particular womanures very prominently in this book, um, she was responsible for in this plantation she and her husband were running a farm, an estate in, again, this actually is another case in ukraine, and they were jews that were trying to flee from the railway transports, the boxcars would end up on their estate trying to find refuge. and this couple would hundred them down -- would hunt them down, and they had a special site on their farm, an actual killing site. and this figure, erna petri, you know, she was on her balcony serving coffee and cake and heard the men talking about what should be done with the jews, even the details of how they should be killed, the proper method. so one day some jewish boys, six boys, she found them along the side of the road leading to their estate, brought them back to the house, calmed them down, fed them, you know, something to eat, and they kind of gained their trust, and then she escorted them out to this killing site and shot them in the back of the neck. tha

vienna, people went back to towns in west germany, and one couple in particular from what became east germany, and that particular woman figure is very prominent in the book, she was responsible for in the plantation, you know, she her and huer were running a farm, an estate, and, again, this is another case in ukraine, and they were jews that were trying to flee from the railway force, the boxcars, ended up trying to find refuge, and this couple would hunt them down, and they had a special site on their farm, and actual killing site, and this figure, you know, she was on her balcony serving coffee and cake and overheard men talked about what should be done with the jew, and details of how to be killed, what's the proper method, and so one day some jewish boys were found along the side of the road leading to the estate, brought them back to the house, calmed them down, fed them, you know, something to seat, and they kind of gained their trust, and then she escorted them out to the killing site and shot them in the back of the neck. that was -- that's a pretty detailed story because -- and i t

one couple in particular in what became east germany. and that particular woman figure very prominently in the book. she was responsible for the plantation -- she and her has been running a farm. again, this is another case. and they were jews that were trying to flee from the zero railway transport. then that china find refuge. this temple would hunt him down. they had a special site on the farm, and actual killing said. and this figure, she was on her balcony serving coffee and cake in over the men talking about what should be done with this use. even if you tell how they should be killed, the proper method. so one day some jewish boy, leading to their state of brought them back to the house, condom down, fed them something to eat. kind of gain their trust. then she escorted them. that is a pretty detailed story. and i can tell you that story because she was subjected to some pretty harsh interrogation in the 1960's, 61 with her husband. and so they confessed to these crimes. and i have since corroborated her confession with testimony,

and at one point he wandered across the board entire east germany and was picked up by those folks wearing those uniforms. thankfully they released him and let him come back. but he served our country, served proudly and honorably, and after all the words he is said on friday -- words he said on friday -- i presented him the microphone and he said three words in his acceptance speech. thank you, america. that's a man that did it the right way. the kind of people we need to respect by the millions in this country that did it the right way an it's no respect to to them if we destroy the rule of law, legalization is destruction of the rule of law and legalization is a path to citizenship and we must preserve prork tect, and defend and restore and refurbish the rule of law with our immigration policy in the house. we are the last stop. we're the defense. we're the readout for -- redoubt for the rule of law right here. i'm glad to count a lot of people in this corning my friends. i'm glad to count those who stand for the rule of law as my closest friends. i'm pleased to yield to the gentleman f

praise for these stations in the regimer, both from the people like markus wolf, the spymaster of east germanyand from the dissidents and opposition leaders like walensa solzhenizin, like you said. one still find endorsement and praise of the international broadcasts from the oppressed, from people in prison in iran, .orth korea, china keeping hope alive for people who are prisoners of conscience, if you will, is so important. host: sierra vista, arizona, on the independent line. you are on with ross johnson. caller: good morning. i was just thinking while he was speaking about avoiding propaganda in the radio broadcasts in our own country. radio has been taken over by conservative talk. you've got like rush limbaugh and stuff. i know armed forces radio carries rush limbaugh. really, what we are trying to do for foreign countries i feel to thisshould be doing country. i know we have freedom of press here to but a lot of the things they say, it is almost like yelling and screaming fire in a theater, which i was told you even in a country when you have freedom of speech. i would like to know wha

and then we will have millions of refugees and they are mindful of what happened in germany when east germany collapsed. they don't want that to happen. >> how about the more broadly defined responsibility as a major power in the world? there's north korea, syria, iran, sudan. will the chinese leadership become more naturally accepting of the international request to do the right thing in those areas? >> i think they will. it's been a process where we have been sort of trying to push them out not to fear the influence, but to hope for them to put the debate in the solution of international issues that don't necessarily treacly involve them. in the middle east that directly involves them, so you don't have to invite them there and north korea and so on. but it is a process because the tradition has been not to get involved if you can help it meet the old chinese saying that it's better to have one less thing than one more thing. so i think it is gradually changing. also, the have to learn how to do, how to get involved in a positive way. it's not something that you are born with. >> what can t

what ey're mindful of happened to west germany when east germany collapsed. happen.n't want that to >> how about china's more defined responsibility as a major power in the world. syria, sudan, would the chinese accepting become more of international requests to do the right things in those areas? >> i think they will. you know, there's been a process where we and others have been to coax ind of trying them out, not to fear their to hope forut to -- in the participate solution of international issues directly necessarily involve them. middle east directly involves them. you don't have to invite them there. so does north korea and so on. it's a process because the not to get s been involved if you can help it. saying that it's better to have one less thing one more thing. so it's gradually changing. to learn how to do -- how to get involved in the positive way. it's not something that you're born there. the international do in the case of tibet to increase of religious liberties in tibet? >> you investigate the situation. publicize things that the religious co