east l.a. east l.a., you'd die to get out of there! i got out of east l.a. i was the president of the high school there. i mean -- and i'm a jew! and 50% of the people there were black and 40% were hispanic. you ever been to boyle heights? >> yeah, i've been to boyle heights. >> so, i mean, people must have a good feeling for me. >> the nba commissioner is pushing the other owners to force donald sterling to sell the clippers, but an attorney for sterling's wife, shelly, tells cnn she's a co-owner of the team and has every intention of keeping it that way. >> mrs. sterling wants to retain her ownership interests in the team. she has enough money in her life and for her children and her grandchildren. she's passionate about her ownership of this team. she loves the team. players love her. doc rivers has been very supportive of her, and she's supportive of them. mrs. sterling wants to retain her 50% ownership interest in her lifetime. >> as for the clippers, game three of their playoff series with oklahoma city thunder is tonight in los angeles. the series is t

east l.a. east l.a., you'd die to get out of there. i got out of east l.a. i was the president of the high school there. i mean, and i'm a jew. and 50% of the people there were black, and 40% were hispanic. you ever been to boyle heights? >> yeah, i've been to boyle heights. >> i mean, people must have a good feeling for me. >> did you talk to griffin or anybody yet? >> i didn't talk to anybody. i'm in my house in beverly hills. >> yeah. >> i mean, how could you think i'm a racist, knowing me all these years? how can you be in this business and be a racist? do you think i tell the coach to get white players or to get the best player he can get? >> the best player he can get. >> i mean, you -- i don't expect anything from anybody, but i do from you. i mean -- it breaks my heart that magic johnson, you know, a guy i -- i guy i respect so much wouldn't stand up and say, well, let's get the facts. let's get him and talk to him. nobody tried. nobody. i'm here on beverly drive and sunset across from the beverly hills hotel, you know? >> i mean, i think they're goin

east l.a. east l.a. you die to got out of there the i got out of east l.a. the president of the high school there. i mean, and i am a jew. and 50% of the people there were black. and 40% were hispanic. >> reporter: in the call sterling is questioned by an unidentified friend. >> how can you be in business and be a racist? do you think i tell the coach to get white players? or get the best player he can get? >> reporter: some have said the conversation sound less than natural calling into question the validity of the recording. of course, sterling is much better known for this recording. >> it bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast you are associating with black people. >> reporter: a taped conversation with his lady confidant, v. stiviano. >> do you know you have a whole team that is black that plays for you? >> do i know? i support them and give them food and clothes and cars and houses. >> reporter: the racist comments sparked widespread outrage and cost sterling what he loves most. >> i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the c

east l.a. east l.a. is dying to get out of there. i got out of east l.a. i was the president of the high school there. d i'm a jew, and 50% of the people there were blacks and 40% were hispanic. you been to boyle heights? >> yeah, i've been to boyle heights. >> so people must have a good feeling for me. >> did you talk to griffin or anybody yet? >> i didn't talk to anybody. i'm in my house in beverly hills. >> yeah. >> i mean, how could you think i'm a racist, knowing me all these years? how could you be in this business and be a racist? do you think i tell the coach to get white players or to get the best player he can get? >> the best player he can get. >> i mean, you -- i don't expect anything from anybody, but i do from you. i mean -- it breaks my heart that magic johnson, you know, a guy -- a guy that i respect so much wouldn't stand up and say, well, let's get the facts. let's get him and talk to him. nobody tried. nobody. i'm here on beverly drive and sunset across from the beverly hills hotel, you know. >> i think they're going to -- they're probably trying to force you to sell. that's the thin

east l.a. east l.a., you die to get out of there. i get out of east l.a. i was the president of the high school there. i mean, and i am a jew. and 50% of the people were black. and 40% were hispanic. >> not that i was counting. not that i noticed. as you know the nba is trying to force donald sterling to sell the team. there are a number of celebrities expressed interest in buying it. doesn't sound look donald sterling is planning to give up without a fight. >> they're trying to force you to sell. >> you can't force someone to sell prompt in america. i am a lawyer -- >> no, i am just saying. i think they got sean combs diddy he is the one seeking to buy him and oprah. >> who? >> who? he doesn't know who oprah is? maybe he really its out of it. i think he can go to jail for not knowing who oprah is, right. i got to ask kobe about this. kobe bryant is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] with the lakers. and, up until last week, the lakers were the most screwed up nba team in town. not anymore. i wonder if kobe can buy the clippers while he is on the lakers

east l.a. east l.a., you died to get out of there. i got out of east l.a. the president of the high school there. and i'm a jew. 50% of the people were black and 40% were hispanic. you remember boyle heights? >> yeah, i've been to bchl oyle heights. >> so i mean, people must have a good feeling about me. >> is he a very savvy businessman. they say he's one of the best in the business. he's a lawyer. he makes that very, very clear. our own anderson cooper went to meet with him and wouldn't go on camera. so the idea that he's somehow being recorded and doesn't know it isn't true. i think this is a pr stunt. he's trying to change the narrative from racist to a victim who was at the hand of v. stiviano and who is not a racist. i think this was a planned thing. maybe not by olivia pope but by donald sterling. >> what do you think about these comments? >> well, it's an interesting path. i thought that we'd get a whole different direction here. this is surprising. i thought he was going to remain silent. in the end, the whole focus is on who the fellow owners want

east l.a. east l.a., you die to get out of there. got it out of east l.a. i was the president of the high school there. i mean, and i'm a jew. 50% of the people there were black and 40% were hispanic. you ever been to boyle heights? >> yeah. yeah, i've been to boyle heights. >> so people must have a good feeling for me. >> did you talk to griffin or anybody yet? did you talk to -- >> i didn't talk to anybody. i'm in my house in beverly hills. >> yeah. >> i mean, how could you think i'm a racist, knowing me all these years? how can you be in this business and be a racist? do you think i tell the coach to get white players? or to get the best player he can get? >> the best player he can get. >> i mean, you, i don't expect anything from anybody but i do from you. i mean -- >> you -- >> it breaks my heart that magic johnson, a guy i -- a guy i respect so much -- wouldn't stand up and say, well, let's get the facts, let's get him and talk to him. nobody tried. nobody. i'm here on beverly drive in sunset, across from the beverly hills hotel. you know. >> i mean, i

east l.a. east l.a., you'd die to get out of there. i got out of east l.a. i was the president of the high school there. i mean, if -- and i'm a jew. and 50% of the people there were black and 40% were hispanic. >> jimmy: not that i was counting. not that i even noticed. as you know the nba is trying to force donald sterling to sell the team and there are a number of celebrities who have expressed interest in buying it but it doesn't sound to me like donald sterling's planning to get up without a fight. >> they're trying to force you to sell it. >> you can't force somebody to sell property in america. well, i'm a lawyer, that's my -- >> no, i'm just saying, i think they got sean combs diddy, he's the one that's really seeking to buy, him and oprah. >> who? >> jimmy: who? he doesn't know who oprah is? maybe he really is out of it. yeah, i think you can go to jail for not knowing who oprah is, right? i've got to ask kobe about this. kobe bryant is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] up until last week the lakers were the most screwed up nba team in town. not

. >> i grew up in east l.a., east l.a., you die to get out of there. i got out of east l.a. i was the president of the high school there. i mean -- and i'm a jew. 50% of the people there were black and 40% were hispanic. you ever been to boyle heights? >> yeah. i've been to boyle heights. >> people must have a good feeling for me. >> did you talk to griffin or anybody yet? >> i didn't talk to anybody. i'm in my house in beverly hills. >> yeah. >> i mean, how could you think i'm a racist knowing me all these years? how can you be in this business and be a racist? do you think i tell the coach to get white players or get the best player can get? >> the best player he can get. >> i mean, you -- i don't expect anything from anybody but die from you. i mean -- >> you -- >> it breaks my heart that magic johnson, you know, a guy i -- a guy that i respect so much, wouldn't stand up and say, well, let's get the facts. let's get him and talk to him. nobody tried. nobody from here on, on beverly drive and sunset across from the beverly hills hotel. you know. >> i think there's -- they'

east l.a. east l.a., you die to get out of there. i got out of east l.a. the president of the high school there. i mean, and i'm a jew. and 50% of the people there were black and 40% were hispanic. i mean, how could you think i'm a racist? knowing me all of these years? how can you be in this business and be racist? do you think i tell the coach to get white players? or to get the best player he can get? >> i spoke in an exclusive interview with someone who is more familiar than most with how donald sterling ran his team. i sat down with him and his wife, elaine. >> in your lawsuit you said he had a plantation mentality. do you believe that? >> of course. i don't think he changed. >> do you believe he is a racist? >> yeah, because he is holding onto that for some reason. you see, his exposure doesn't fit with what he is saying. he wants to feel -- he is holding onto the beliefs for some reason. >> i understand during the lawsuit you said he also liked the idea of having all black players and a white coach. >> a white coach, southern white coach. >> explain

east l.a. east l.a., you die to get out of there. i got out of east l.a. was the president of the high school there. i mean, and i'm a jew. and 50% of the people there were black and 40% were hispanic. >> all right. jason carroll is out front now along with don lemon a psychotherapist robi ludwig. you have been reviewing all of the tape today. what else have you heard? >> it's really incredible considering he has been caught on tape once. you would think he would be very mindful who he was talking to. we should be clear we have not identified the person he was talking to, only that this is a long-time friend. >> who decided to roll tape? >> who decided to roll -- well, someone did. someone did. but we should also mention he made mention of magic johnson. you remember in the original audio recording that was released, he was critical of v. stiviano, saying how dare you post a picture of a black man, even if it was magic johnson, on your instagram account. so listen to what he also had to say than today. that was interesting. >> it breaks my heart that magic

east l.a. east l.a., you die to get out of there. i got out of eastl.a., i was the president of the high school there. i mean, and i'm a jew, and 50% of the people there were black and 40% were hispanic. >> with the nba trying to force sterling to sell the clippers in the wake of being caught telling associated v. stiviano not to bring black people to his games, sterling said the law is on his side. >> you can't force someone to sell property in america. >> his estranged wife seems to people the same way. mrs. sterling as co coner neither wants to sell her 50% share of the clippers nor should she have to. >> her property rights are valuable and in this country, we protect property rights. she wants to hold on to her property rights, however, she does not want to manage the team or do day to day operations. >> mrs. sterling has also been alleged to have a history of racist behavior. clippers head coach doc rivers said having either remain as an owner would be troubling. >> i think it would be a very hard situation. i'll say that much. i think it would

east l.a. is also by luis j. rodriguez. what is in this book? >> guest: those are stories about boyle heights, east l.a., it's a community that is deepest in my heart because i moved into -- [inaudible] these communities in largest mexican community in the u.s. i mean, more than a million people are in easta.. some of the poorest neighborhoods, some of the nicest neighborhoods. so m of those neighborhoods are clean and beautiful, some of them are housing projects. there's about six housing projects. it's a rough place, but it's also a place of beauty. and i wanted to reflect both of it. to me, it isn't only that you show one end of it, you point out there's rough things, there's trauma, there's pain, there's ugly things, but there are also people who in spite of that have dignity, work hard, create, fight for social justice. you can have a fuller sense of who you are. so that's the republic of east l.a. a world in the united states that's not mexico, that's not quite full-on american. it's another world with its own culture similar to what you find in places like, you know, new orleans and other cultures. beautiful american cultures, but they're different. they have nuances that don't quite fit into -- >> host: who designed that? that's a great cover. >> guest: that's part of the culture