eastman and mr.ssions' murder. >> at the heart of the prosecution's case was the abuse they say heather frank suffered at the hands of kevin eastman. >> have a seat. >> the only thing that we really knew of heather is what came out through her son. >> can you tell the jury about the first time you knew the defendant had physically harmed your mother? >> it was in february of 2014, when i seen her, she had a slash on her throat. like a knife, like, you know, a cut on her throat. i believe it was the right side of her face was really beaten up, like really bad. it was black and blue. her wrist had been broken. >> so testimony came out that kevin was not a nice man. his pattern of behavior included breaking the arm of heather's son, slitting heather in the throat at one other time. throwing her into walls. >> they were at a bar. they came home. and he started fighting with her, and she told him to leave. and he got pissed, and he grabbed her arm and basically broke her arm. grabbed an adult kitchen knif

eastman made that analogy.sis akin to the civil war. right? lawyers can't do that. they have to follow the law. they cannot advise clients to break the law or take positions they know are mmeritless. why he's in front of that court in california battles for his law licence and my be battles for his liberty as charged by jack smith as part of the conspiracy. >> my next question for you. it's been years now since a federal judge said eastman likely committed felonies along with donald trump. there is some structural reasons that i suppose make it logical investigating trump's role could have taken this long, but i have a harder time understanding why eastman's investigation into his role has taken so long. is it what you just articulated? he may be getting examined as a co-conspirator? >> yeah. look, i think there's no question that the department, special counsel's team, is looking at a conspiracy. president leader of the conspiracy, but others helped facilitate this effort to obstruct the joint session. john ea

but this disciplinary hearing is not the only major consequence eastman may be facing.bi agents seized eastman's cellphones last summer reportedly at the behest of a justice department's inspector general. also last summer a federal judge agreed that his e-mails should be released to congressional investigators because he found it, quote, more likely than not that president trump and dr. eastman dishonestly conspired to obstruct the joint session of congress on january 6, 2021. and last winter the january 6th investigation in the house referred eastman to the justice department for prosecution. presumably that referral along with whatever the fbi found on eastman's cellphone has been passed along to special counsel jack smith. he's yet to announce any results of his criminal investigation into january 6th. and we are also awaiting charging decisions by fulton county district attorney fani willis. he's testified before her special purpose grand jury last summer. shortly after january 6th he wrote an e-mail to former trump attorney rudy giuliani in which he said and i quo

eastman sent this memo, dr.an e-mail that the fake electors had no legal weight, referring to the fake electors as, quote, dead on arrival in congress, end quote. >> trump campaign aides and outside lawyers shared their concerns about the scheme in e-mails reported on by "the new york times" maggie haberman and luke broadwater. >> and did they think what they were doing was legal? >> in one e-mail a lawyer working in arizona literally describes them as quote-unquote fake electors, so what we would be doing is sending these fake electors, he has in quotes, to go cast ballots. in another e-mail there was a discussion about fear from some officials. this would be seen as quote-unquote treasonous. >> what might have happened had pence trying to go through with this idea that he could reject electoral votes and send them back to the states biden won such as arizona, pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia? >> he would have immediately plunged the country into what i characterize as a revolution within a paralyzing constitut

eastman want you to do? >> that we would, in fact, vote, take a vote to overthrow, i shouldn't say overthrow, that we would decertify the electors and because we had plenary authority to do so. i said, what would you have me do? and he said, just do it and let the courts sorted out. >> plenary authority. absolute. total authority. the state legislators have total authority over who wins an election. we now have new reporting from washington post and special counsel jack smith has taken a keen interest in the fake electors plot, focusing specifically on potential fraud. new york times recently reported that one of the trump campaign's key players in this scheme may actually be cooperating with federal prosecutors. and tomorrow, republican georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger who trump infamously called and told to find votes to overturn the georgia election, will meet with prosecutors for the first time on the council's team in atlanta. more on the special counsel's investigation and rapid belmond 's

eastman was hired by donald trump to represent him in december of 2020.tion, including, matters related to the electoral college. in that capacity, eastman drafted a memo in which he argued that then vice president, mike pence, had the power to overturn the election results why presiding over the counting of electoral votes in january 6th, 2021. that theory, of course, underpinned much of the rage against pence by the mob that stormed the capitol that day. but this disciplinary hearing is not the only major consequence that eastman may be facing. fbi agents seized eastman's cell phone last summer, reportedly at the behest of the justice department's inspector general. also last summer, federal judge agreed that his emails, to be released to congressional investigators, because he found it, quote, more likely than not that president trump and dr. eastman dishonestly conspired to obstruct the joint session of congress on january 6th, 2021. last winter, the january 6th investigation in the house referred eastman to the justice department for prosecution. pre

it was eastman and giuliani who spoke at the rally. some of the last contact those people had before they committed what is now a convicted sudeposition was listening to trump, eastman, and giuliani. now giuliani is talking to jack smith, and so what might have looked far-fetched or bizarre in a pre-jan 6th mind-set looks very different today because what giuliani was doing in those press conferences, in those briefings and discussions with legislators who were apparently secret sessions with people going to commit elector fraud, what he was doing was building multiple avenues to overthrow the election. some of them overlapped and intersected with actual crimes. one of them, january 6th, is convicted sedition even though mr. giuliani may not actually be charged for that, which again what the doj is considering who is responsible for that, january 6th. the fact here we are this many years later, over two years later and there is a special counsel and there has been a president inkited and now his big lie giuliani in chief, giuliani, has

john eastman who architected donald trump's potential coup is facing disbarment. it was asked why he presented so many lies to keep trump in office. what do you make of this attempt to -- i mean, do you think he has any shot of holding on to his license in california? he tried this 20 years ago. he floated this theory that was not bright enough, not willing to try it. what do you think are his prospects for remaining a lawyer? >> he has zero shot at not being sanctioned and being disbarred. we can't forget there was a federal judge in california who found by a preponderance of the evidence, 51% more likely than not, that john eastman and donald trump committed two federal felonies together. frankly, for bar counsel's purposes, that's all she wrote. i mean, there's no way john eastman is going to be able to sort of wiggle out of this. the we have all been waiting for a very long time for an indictment that would include john eastman because usually, joy, the federal judiciary, the judges don't get out in front of prosecutors and announce guys like john eastman comm

mcdaniel, the rnc chair, said, he introduced me to a gentleman named john eastman. that was trump lawyer john eastman, the coup mastermind. he had the memo, he wrote it down. the panel asked about that. the response was that trump literally hands the ball, turns the call over to eastman, who says the rnc could help gather these what they called contingent electors. notice how the lawyers are a little more careful. they don't just say lie, they say contingent, alternate. quote, in case of any legal challenges are ongoing change the result. trump on the phone talked about electors, false or fraudulent electors. jack submit is active. he has a lot more than even the committee has. he has more than these leaks we're getting on a condition basis. he's clearly looking at the elector plot because it has emerged as one of the ways that they wanted, inside the white house and with their allies at rnc, with states, they wanted to create not actual factual challenges to the results. i told you before that ship had sail the. supreme court is stocked with three trump appointees,

he said trump and eastman likely committed felonies.reticence and the zeal which they pursued what i call the blue collar part of the case and the impact that had on us, so they arrested hundreds of people and brought hundreds of criminal cases right away. so when we started our investigation, we wanted to talk to some of the people inside the crowd, members of the proud boys and the oath keepers or others. and they were very concerned about our contact with those people influencing criminal investigations. again, huge contrast to the deathly silence when we approached the fake electors, the vice president's staff. so they were really focused initially on the blue collar case. they were not focused at all on the white collar case. the foot soldiers were being aggressively pursued. the organizers, leaders who set it all in motion, who executed that multi-part plan to interrupt the session was not an area of focus. again, the delay -- every day that passes after an event like january 6th without accountability is a problem. it's in the co

eastman knew that the position he was espousing was not lawful.-0, he knew that. he was trying to foist off on the ex-president a scheme that was not lawful to overturn the election. i don't think that's a lawful action, honestly. so we'll see. >> i want to bring into our conversation "new york times" reporter and msnbc contributor katie benner. she's covered this prong of the georgia conduct since before the select committee existed, since the senate judiciary committee was looking into some of the doj-specific functions. also forming acting assistant attorney general for national security and msnbc legal analyst mary mccord is here as well. katie, before there was a select committee doing all their incredible investigative work, wasn't it the senate judiciary committee that was first interviewing some of the ex-doj officials and some of the evidence they developed early on was about rosen and donahue standing up to and confronting jeffrey clark, who among other things wanted to meddle in the georgia results after bill barr and others had told tr

eastman was suggesting although it is a benefit for eastman as i said in this disbarment, legal discipline proceedings that he's facing because they got three supreme court justices to say this is a credible theory. so it doesn't seem that fringe if you have three supreme court justices that landed in that camp. >> although those are the particularly conservative members of the supreme court. can i look at the states where there is republican control, republican legislatures, and what specifically in light of 2020 and -- what this would mean for those states? the. >> remember, you had rudy giuliani going across the country appearing in front of conservative state legislatures, gop controlled state legislatures making the case for election fraud. if this ruling had gone the other way you would have seen those state legislatures become an electoral tribunal of some sort and this decision says the courts are the ones playing that role not state legislatures. so if you're looking for the trump operation to sort of rerun that playbook in 2024, it makes this particular play not look that enticin

now, john eastman who was a legal advisor to donald trump had embraced this fringe theory as a means to try to overturn the 2020 election. arguing that then-vice president mike pence had the power to refuse to certify the results. in an e-mail exchange yesterday with nbc news, eastman claimed the ruling would prevent legislatures were addressing illegality and fraud in a timely manner. but when asked if the ruling invalidates the arguments he himself made in 2020 eastman wrote, quote, no, but it would be murkier than it was previously. barbara, let's get your assessment of this ruling, and what impact could it have on the 2020 election? did it just make the election process a little safer? >> yeah, so this would have been disastrous if the case had come out the other way. the theory says a state legislature gets to decide a time, place and manner for holding elections within that state. and no one can overrule that. if they do something crazy, if they say, you know, voters you all voted for a particular candidate and we the legislature in our infinite wisdom decide we're going to sub

there are the yes men, the consigliari, the john eastmans, the rudy giulianis.went to law school, it probably wouldn't be the top law schools in the country. then there are the elite establishment lawyers like ty cobb, like don mcgahn, who i think try -- think that they can change donald trump, that the system, they can fit him into the rule of law. and you know, we saw as you said in the mueller report, don mcgahn trying and trying again, and really, you know, struggling there. and i think it's also -- i don't know if you noticed, but i reported in my book "kushner inc.", the reason trump hired don mcgahn was not because he was an establishment lawyer inside the republican community. it was because trump knew his father, and he represented him and had been on the other side. he said patty mcgahn was a nasty piece of work. he admired that. >> we know he likes that. you raise human side, which is so different than all the rules and all the case law you see in there a hope -- some might call it a delusion, others arrogance, that these people like mr. cork ran who

a lot of people that try to steal the 2020 election but maybe john eastman the architect of a coup, no one is arguably more culpable than that man you see there on the right, rudy giuliani. in his capacity as trump's personal attorney, giuliani was the ex presidents point person for the so-called fake electors scheme, which has become a focus of the federal special counsel investigation. in fact, as washington post reported last night, giuliani oversaw the internal effort to gather the slate to flake fake trump electors in several states who falsely attested that donald trump and not joe biden won the most votes in their respective states. trump's lawyer, boris epshteyn, who also admitted he participated in phone calls with giuliani and the campaign 's legal team about this plot. we know giuliani helped lead the plot to pressure state legislators to push the slates fake electors as of the january six committee revealed. in december of 2020, giuliani even went on steve cannon's bannon's podcast to talk about it publicly, presenting the most respectable or legally plausible version of th

some in former president donald trump's orbit, like john eastman, were pushing for something called the legislature doctrine that goes like this, under the elections clause of the u.s. constitution, quote, the times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof. proponents say state houses should be able to then set the rules in federal elections with no check, no balance, no check from state constitutions no check interest state courts, no check from state commissions, no balances. it wasn't just the maps at stake. this had the potential to stretch all rules in federal elections. let's talk about the consequences here. good morning. 6-3 roberts writes the opinion. there's an important part of the opinion here as it pertains to federal courts that gives people pause, but overall, is this a win for democracy? >> without question. had this gone the other way, it would have changed everything. i mean, i think judge lutic is correct, the way we vote and checks and balances. what it would have meant had i

counsel for the state bar of california is asking a court to revoke eastman's license to practice lawn that state eastman's disciplinary hearings are expected to last at least eight days >>> french investigators searched the headquarters of paris olympic into two proebs into suspected corruption. one investigation was opened the year paris was picked as the 2024 host looking into suspected embezzlement of public funds and favoritism the second opened last year concerning suspected conflict of interest and favoritism involving several olympic contracts. the games are set to take place in july and august of next year. >>> forecasters warn a tropical storm brewing in the central atlantic could strengthen into a hurricane in the next couple of days there's a lot of uncertainty about the storm's path right now, but it is expected to pummel some eastern caribbean islands. and the name will be brett, so no bertha this year in the hurricanes i'm quite relieved. >> bertha, thank you very much >>> up next, deutsche bank says strong auto demand could lead to a series of q2 beats and guidance rai

this is a john eastman pick.ture doctrine doesn't exist without eastman. as the lawyer who led more than 60 victories for joe biden against donald trump, this is a big relief. we were fighting those cases one by one. we were fighting these theories and to have the supreme court put this to rest so we don't have to worry about it in the future is a real advantage. >> when the court said listen, you can't overturn the result of the election or you can't submit new electors because you don't like the original ones, this is the supreme court saying this is what the state court's rule is. they have the authority to do that. >> absolutely. so they said basically i think one thing directly, one indirectly. the first is where a state court says this is where the law is in our state or what our state constitutional requires, that's the end of the rope. so that's the first thing. the second is by inference and i think a pretty strong inference, it also says that the state legislatures are not these omnipotent entities and

john eastman arguing that 20 years apart that this insane theory is what should rule our elections.our of the members of this supreme court had some role in bush v. gore. john roberts worked on bush's legal team, kavanaugh worked on his legal team. amy coney barrett worked on bush's legal team in florida, and clarence thomas was part of the 5-4 opinion. bush v. gore was said to be nonprecedential. but boy, does it feel like it. >> when you look at what a justice did in their past life and think they're going to approach it in a certain way and this stuff is going to live on forever. no, the nail was put in the coffin of all of this nonsense today. and it was put -- the nail was put in by chief justice roberts and joined by two trump appointees, amy coney barrett and brett kavanaugh, and what they said is basically, uh-uh, you know, there is -- there are standard checks and balances when it comes to federal elections, and you don't just, because you have the raw political power, republican party, you don't get to call the shots and say courts have no business. so to me, it's a really

in this incidence, kinzinger describes john eastman's memo, a coup in writing as, quote, a blueprintor a coup. where do you assess the january 6th case based on what is outward facing a and the kinds of people that are going in and out of the grand jury? >> yeah, it's looking really bad for trump. i don't know that i want to go as far as andrew did and say it's 100% certain that donald trump will be indicted there have certainly been hundreds of indictments already that the justice department has brought about january 6th. but prosecuting january 6th is another level because the president is going to say -- former president is going to say i was acting as president. you don't want to criminalize government action. all sorts of stuff, which wasn't available to him when it comes to the classified stolen documents at mar-a-lago. there is no claim that trump was acting as president, you know, when he obstructed the investigation or retained, willfully retained these documents. he had already been voted out of the office, at least for those of us in the reality-based community. we knew he

and it was, use point out, the john eastmans of the world who are pushing this theory.efore the supreme court pedaling this independent state legislature theory, and today the court to use the words of a "new york times" columnist nuked it. nuked the independent state legislature theory. it's dead. it has no place in american law. it's gone. >> let me ask about that because what happens with dobbs is conservative legal activist sent case after case after case to the supreme court to be tested until they had their victory and overturned roe. will this deter the john eastma? is it decisive or is there anything in clarence thomas's dissent that means they'll keep pressing on this. >> i'm not sure anything will ever deter john eastman, but nicolle, i think it's important that this opinion, this was a 6-3 opinion, but it was actually 7 to 2 on the merits of the independent state legislature theory because justice alito didn't take a position on it so there's at least six votes right now that are saying we don't buy these kind of election shenanigans. to me at least for now i

publicly known that the trump team at the willard hotel included steve bannon, boris epstein, and john eastman, the times is also reported that jack smith's prosecutors were, quote, in negotiations to reach a proper agreement with michael roman, the former director of election day operations for mr. trump's 2020 campaign, mr. roman was also instrumental in helping put together the so-called fake elector plan. rudolph giuliani was also forced, ten months ago, to testify in the fulton county grand jury in jury investigating possible election crimes by donald trump and his allies. that became a very visible area of overlap today, between fulton county district attorney fani willis's investigation, and special prosecutor jack smith's investigation. jack smith's team today interviewed georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger. the person to whom donald trump placed the phone call heard around the world. >> all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> donald trump made that phone call on january 2nd, 2020, one it became public the next day. the

investigation in the house referred eastman to the justice department for prosecution. presumably that referral along with whatever the fbi found on eastman's cellphone has been passed along to special counsel jack smith. he's yet to announce any results of his criminal investigation into january 6th. and we are also awaiting charging decisions by fulton county district attorney fani willis. he's testified before her special purpose grand jury last summer. shortly after january 6th he wrote an e-mail to former trump attorney rudy giuliani in which he said and i quote, i've decided i should be able to pardon this, if that is still in the works. that does it for us tonight. i'll see you again tomorrow. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. >>> many of them nikki haley is at 2%. she hasn't cotton because everyone knows she's highly overrated. i like the governor, the lieutenant governor of south carolina. and henry mcmaster has turned out to be a great, great person. i put her over there, but much more important to me because henry mcmaster was great, always gre

first of all, it is necessary to have an attractive and thoughtful eastman year of playwriting, screenwritingting and directing. i say that the screenplay of the writing and acting foundation is 90% teachable, but it needs 10% , you can also have 10% romance. not acceptable, not brilliant, but in the case of acting, writing , we need a little through the lungs, but we should not enlarge this committee, because this is contrary to the determination of the place of serious education in the field of humanities, which does not reflect the nature of modern man, for example, from the mother's womb. i was born as an artist, it is a wrong view, we have to slowly drip the art into the mind and soul of the receiver, and we can actually receive the result of this house in the form of the works that are born . i have a firm belief that it can be taught if the basic tools are not distorted physically, mentally and now to some extent, the expression can be treated, but the expression of these events must be at the minimum acceptable level to ensure that there is an innate tendency and talent . be sure that

john eastman might lose his law license in california.fense that could determine this. eastman of course wrote the coup memo, which pushed this basic paper work idea that you could steal and overthrow an election. he spoke on january 6th. last summer the fbi memorably took his phone without his consent, because it was a warrant search. you see him with his hands up. took the phone away. the committee put him on that short damning list of referrals. he repeatedly pled the fifth when asked to explain his own conduct. >> i assert my fifth amendment right against being compelled to be a witness against myself. >> did the trump legal team ask you to repair a memorandum regarding the vice president's role in the counting of electoral votes on january 6th, 2020. you will not discuss those same conversations with those committee? >> fifth. >> he pled the fifth. he knows the truth could -- him in crimes. while it may not surprise anyone who watches this program that we have a wide level of respect and support for what lawyers do -- lawyers literal

fake slates of trump electors in some states and that giuliani was questioned about attorney john eastman, attorney sydney powell, both of whom, in their roles as lawyers for donald trump, publicly lied for donald trump about the presidential election. the times also reports, giuliani was asked about people gathered at the willard hotel in the days leading up to the january 6th attack on the capitol. it has long been publicly known that the trump team at the willard hotel included steve bannon, boris epstein, and john eastman, the times is also reported that jack smith's prosecutors were, quote, in negotiations to reach a proffer agreement with michael roman, the former director of election day operations for mr. trump's 2020 campaign, mr. roman was also instrumental in helping put together the so-called fake elector plan. rudolph giuliani was also forced, ten months ago, to testify in the fulton county grand jury in jury georgia investigating possible election crimes by donald trump and his allies. that became a very visible area of overlap today, between fulton county district attorney

council for the state bar in california is asking to court to revoke eastman's law license.20 election. thanks so much for joining "inside politics". cnn news central starts right now.

last winter, the january 6th investigation in the house referred eastman to the justice department for prosecution. presumably, that referral, along with whatever the fbi found on eastman cell phone, had been passed on to special counsel, jack smith. he has yet to announce any results of his criminal investigation into january 6th. we are also waiting charging decisions by fulton county, georgia district attorney, fani willis. he's been testified before her special purpose grand jury last summer, maybe this is a good time to remind you that shortly after january 6th, he went and wrote an email to fellow trump attorney, rudy giuliani. in which he said, and i quote, i've decided i should be on the pardon list. if that is still in the works. that does it for us tonight, i'll see you again tomorrow, now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> good evening alicia, we are going to have to learn a little bit more about the way of local rules work in the southern district of florida. and we are going to try to do that tonight during this hour. >> i love

council for the state bar in california is asking to court to revoke eastman's law license. he is faces disciplines for allegations he tried convince mike pence to overturn the 2020 election. thanks so much for joining "inside politics". cnn news central starts right now. >>> some urgent unanswered questions for the coast guard at this hour. we're going to be hearing from them any moment at a press conference as this tourist dive vessel has not been found. oxygen levels running low. it lost contact with its support ship about an hour and 45 minutes into its voyage on sunday. they say the vessel has enough oxygen to last three or four days. anywhere from 50 to 76 hours until they run out of breathable air. the vessel, by the way, is about the size of a machineny van and the it's the property of a company called ocean gate. let's head to boston where the coast guard is holding this press conference. >> reporter: with five people on board, along with providing a update on current search efforts and plans for the next 24 hour. on behalf of all the men and women of the united sta

serving as a personal attorney for donald trump at that point, along with sidney powell, and john eastman. we know that from cassidy hutchinson's testimony that on december 18th in her own words, the oval office, it was unhinged in which there was a meeting between giuliani, with trump, with powell, with eastman, and white house counsel over disagreements about the efforts to file litigation in several key states, and of course, rudy giuliani is also believed to be a key individual involved in the effort to build those fake slate of electors. we also know there are questions the special counsel's office is looking around to the fundraising operation. that was the save america pact. that was the pact that was set up, and reached out to americans asking for donations to help fight the fraud to overturn the 2020 election. rudy giuliani was paid out of that account. there are a lot of questions which rudy giuliani could answer in terms of his own conversations with donald trump, but also others who may be targets of the investigation in the special counsel's office as well. >> got to wonder w

. >> reporter: roseville residents eric eastman and his wife have been on their houseboat for a week now stocking up for another week on the wart. >> it's beautiful. all the boats in the parking lot are back in the lake. >> reporter: in spring of 2021 the lake was so low that 125 houseboats were pulled from the water and dry docked in the park. now houseboats are back where they belong, in the water. >> the lake's nice and full, so the ramp is a very s, which is wonderful. >> reporter: this is lake oroville at its lowest point in september 2021, 628.6 feet. june 2023 it's at nearly 900 feet. areas that were once dirt are now covered with water. >> there's no beach whatsoever out here now because the water's up so high. >> reporter: but no beach, no problem for these boaters. >> nice full lake, can't complain about that. >> reporter: who plan to spend as much time as possible on a full lake oroville this summer. the dwr is releasing water out to the feather river. that way we won't see a repeat of the spillway crisis of 2017. >> thank you so much. >>> google employees, listen up. we u

one of the proponents, former trump lawyer john eastman saying the court's ruling will make the arguments he made in 2020 murkier in the upcoming lixs elections. the decision was met with praise from democrats >>> former congress come liz cheney weighed in on her political future in a conversation with nbc's lester holt at the aspen ideas festival on tuesday cheney, a major critic of former president trump has been speculated as a possible 2024 candidate. she specified that she doesn't want to do anything that may help trump and will make a decision about what comes next for her later this year. she was ousted from her seat in a primary challenge by a trump-backed candidate in 2022 >>> an ever-widening gap in the polls is not stopping desantis from taking his main rival head on they held events in the pivotal state of new hampshire tuesday as desantis urged republicans to move on from trump or risk defeat nbc's vaughn hill gallaiard has. >> god bless new hampshire and god bless america, thank you >> reporter: gop frontrunners, donald trump and ron desantis, hosting dueling events just 40

>> donald trump had a direct and personal role in this effort, as did rudy giuliani, as did john eastman. >> the other federal investigation into trump's attempted coup. >> everything that was done was done illegally by the trump legal team, according to the rules, and on the leadership of rudy on. >> tonight there's route new trouble for today -- immunity to fake electors. then, what is happening in russia tonight. as the leader of thousands of russian mercenaries affective lay declares war against russia's military. plus, -- >> thank god almighty, for the dobbs decision. >> the republicans, on the wrong side of voters. as two thirds of the country rejects the dobbs decision on abortion. >> you ain't seen nothing yet. >> all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. a lot going on on this friday night. tonight we have some big developments in both the special counsel jack smith's investigations into donald trump, first in the documents case. just minutes ago, we learned that smith has filed three motions. he's asked that the ex presidents trial date, originall

mark meadows has communications with rudy giuliani, with eastman.goes to georgia, as katie was saying he goes to georgia, he calls the secretaries of state to investigators, he's on that notorious january 3rd call with brad raffensperger. he's actually on the call when it happens, so he's right in the center of that. and he, on january 4th and 5th, has conversations with jerry eastman, that pat cipollone is excluded from. remember, he was going to have a meeting with the president, vice president -- but it was not because he disagreed. and the president didn't want that. so, yes, she has information about other co-conspirators, not simply the president. and key for georgia, to katie's point, fani willis, i believe he's testified in the georgia grand jury and might be charges that she's evaluating in georgia. >> we've been drilling down to january 6. obviously, while we have both of you, we want to drill down on the jack smith investigation. has nbc news report, mark meadows answered questions about that. he was in the room where the unpacking went a

this was a radical theory, defendant by none other than john eastman who was the architect of the january 6 policies and i'm pleased to see the supreme or rejecting it 6-3. to me, it's a signal that six justices are going to stand against monkeying, games and shenanigans. >> what message does it send of the chief justice author the opinion and two of the justices donald trump nominated joined with the majority in rejecting the theory? >> it's a thorough repudiation of the independent state legislature theory, and opinion offered by the chief justice who is no liberal joined by kavanaugh, amy coney barrett, again, it's a demonstration that law, history, the tradition of checks and balances still has residents and i think it will go down as one of his finest opinions if not his finest. >> the court in preserving the status quo, is that sufficient? guardrails? >> not at all. the court took a step by preserving the 200 year tradition of checks and balances , but, it was 10 years ago this week that the supreme court struck down the key provisions of voting rights. gamesmanship at the state and

joe eastman's with her equities team.: we are seeing nasty moves in the recruitment sector today after a warning from robert walters saying the net fee income dropped 10% in the past two months and they expect earnings to be weaker. robert walters is down 15%. pagegroup hitting that sector across europe today. i'm also looking at the camping space, this getting hit 10%, entain, the ftse 100 firm with the market cap around $10 billion. they are selling shares at a discount to were traded yesterday. markets are not liking that all. they are using the money to buy a company in poland that does online casino games and sports betting. that is called sts and that is up 13%. entain is the worst performer in the u.k. at the moment. over in france we have casino, the beleaguered supermarket space, this had a breakdown in toxin has not recovered. there is hope today with a billionaire offering to potentially rescue the firm with around 1.1 billion euros in capital. that stock was jumping at 70% earlier then was halted in paris trad

it happened on 68th avenue not far from the eastman town center just before 9 o'clock last night. police say the child was found inside a home and was taken to a hospital. we're told she is in stable conditions. no arrests have been made. the circumstances surrounding the shooting are still under investigation. >> a concord man is in critical condition after he was hit by a car last night. the driver of the car and drove off concord. police say they responded to a report of a hit and run just before 10 o'clock willow pass road dimond boulevard. they say the man was riding his bikewhen he got hit by what's believed to be a black honda civic. police say the car should have sustained or would have sustained damage to the front in the hood, possibly to windshield and the roof. anyone with any information on this is asked to call concord police a bill designed to reduce workplace violence has passed the state senate. the new legislation follows a two-year member. remembrance of the mass shooting at a san jose vta bus station yard where 9 people were killed by a co-worker. it also comes

stocks on the move with joe eastman from our equities team. we start with sartorius.is is the big story in the pharma space. sartorius cutting their earnings guidance and dropping 15% almost heading down 20% earlier and taking down a number of stocks with it including merck and germany, the big biotech and general pharma company. also lonza and evotec. a lot of red on the pharmaceutical screens. this is a 25 billion euro market cap company. morgan stanley saying today the report is worse than even the most bearish people on the street said. consensus earnings estimates could fall 20% and this is after even a pretty weak reports. generally not expected. the biggest movers all in the pharma space today. francine: looking at merck, a lot going on with a lot of these. anything else we should be watching out for? joe: we also had the astrazeneca report and spinning off their chinese business. in terms of other sectors to watch, we are looking at aerospace given the paris air show. we had mtu putting out a report letter than expected. they have raised their earnings guidanc

you see them looking to talk to eastman. they're trying to lock down everybody's story. the giuliani one is particularly interesting because their focus was really the period from election day, november 3rd, to january 20th. what happened on what dates during that thing -- during that time period? what was the purpose of the alternate electors? what was the legal precedent for that? did they actually have the evidence of the fraud? i spoke to two people who were familiar with that conversation, who said it was a very cooperative, not acromonious. >> you have other sides that suggest to you that giuliani is being cooperative. >> the fact he is there at all means he's being cooperative. they can subpoena him. but the fact he's willing to interview in advance of that, means he's being cooperative. i think there's been too much craziness from him. too many false statements. too much nuttiness. substance abuse issues. i don't think they will sign him up as a cooperating witness and use him at trial. but that doesn't mean he's not useful to talk to as they are putting the rest

based on judge carter's assessment looking at the eastman evidence that -- >> california federal judgeely committed by eastman and trump, that you can bet your bottom dollar that jack smith would be before a federal judge trying to pierce attorney-client privilege in the january 6th cases as well, to access attorney-client privilege information. if that happens, it may have already happened, it would expedite the timing, and all the timing would emanate from jack smith's decision. we don't know what we don't know about jack smith's opaque legal maneuverings in the same way we didn't know what was before judge barrel howell. >> and this is the trump advantage. you were talking about it, his misinformation megaphone. we're piecing together what we believe is happening in jack smith's world, but we only find out when there's a legal filing. and right now donald trump is on the steps giving a press conference at mar-a-lago pushing out that misinformation, saying today we'll go down in infamy. that part is true. saying what he did hillary clinton did. hillary clinton did not do it. james co

one, the slates of fake electors, two, the roles of other lawyers including john eastman and sydney powell, and three, the scene at the war room -- the war room scene at the will ard hotel on january 5th. if you're looking at those things, what is of most interest to you in terms of what giuliani can give you? what is the most useful for a federal prosecutor in terms of his vantage point? >> you hiknow, i really think is likely the idea of the fake electors and that's because it happened across multiple states, andle that's something federal prosecutors look at. how broad is the net? how do i get outside one state's jurisdiction? have we crossed state lines with this crime or with this fraud? in that instance they have. we know the special counsel is interested in this because he's been talking to other witnesses. he's had people come in and folks in other states come in and talkth about how this got setup. so the idea that the architects of this scheme might somehow be of interest to him would be important. and whether or not giuliani is one of thoseet architects that' what he's looking t

this happened on 68th avenue not far from the eastman town centered just before 9 o'clock last night. police say that the child was found inside a home and was taken to the hospital. we're told that she is in stable condition right now. no arrests have been made at this time. the circumstances that the shooting or under investigation. >> a school district in the north bay ross valley is investigating hate speech incident that happened last night early this morning. they say somebody spray painted a swastika on the campus of way. thomas elementary in san anselmo staff covered up the image before the start of the school day. it was eventually removed during the day. the district is treating the incident as hate motivated behavior and is asking anyone with information. >> to call the school or police. and we're following developing news out of dc the senate passing the bill to raise the debt ceiling just about an hour ago. it now heads to the president's desk for him to sign the president tweeted tonight that he will sign it into law as soon as possible and he'll be addressing the nation

i mean, who -- i mean, i guess that leaves trump, eastman, and rudy?well, yeah, but first it's a very good point because, you know, if giuliani's lawyer says can i come in and talk to you, they'll say sure. they'll hear him out, but if they -- if he's too late, if they already have what they need, you know, no deal for rudy. but in terms of the coat ree you're talking about that really were talking directly with trump, and he seems to during this period have been unabashed about picking up and calling electors and people in the states, but eastman certainly figures in, maybe jenna ellis who seems to have had this relationship with him. just this final, as michael said, you know, at the end, anybody who would tell him what he wanted to hear, those were the people who had his ear and in turn, you know, had their ears to hear what he said. so that's the kind of final circle it seems to me we're in. first and foremost to me, i've been saying this for months, mark meadows, and now that he's testified, you know, that really gives smith a lot to work with. we

that felonies were likely committed by eastman and trump that you can bet your bottom dollar that --e a federal judge, trying to pierce a turn a client privilege in the january 6th cases as well, to access attorney-client privilege information. if that happens, it may have already happened. it would expedite his timing. and then, all the timing would emanate from a jack smith decision. but we don't know what we don't know about jack smith's opaque legal maneuverings, in the same way that we did not know what was before judge beryl howell when jack smith was successfully piercing attorney-client privilege and gaining access to the corcoran, which were quoted copiously in -- the indictment. >> and this is the trump advantage. and you are talking about it in the last hour. his misinformation megaphone -- we are piecing together what we believe is happening in jack smith's world. but we only find out when there is a legal filing. there are certainly no leaks from his team. and right, now donald trump is on the steps, giving a press conference at mar-a-lago, pushing at that misinformation

indeed, john eastman who many describe as the arc type of president trump's january six theory, even. supreme court in this case trying to pedal this theory, a theory that has now been resounded lee rejected by the court. i think one interesting thing about the case is that most people thought we were going to lose this case, including people on our site. in fact, almost all the lawyers on our side for different parties tried to tell the supreme court, get rid of this case. do not decide this case, you do not have jurisdiction. those arguments were totally wrong, totally misguided, and they stand as a powerful lesson that if somebody carefully studies the supreme court decisions, litigants can win cases that stand up for our democracy and that is what happened today. >> neil, i wanted to ask you about what happened this week. as you probably know cnn exclusively obtained a 2021 audio recording of president trump, he was holding a meeting at his golf club in bedminster new jersey and he is talking about holding, literally in his hands, top secret documents and showing them off to gues

also add in terms of lawyers and the reaction to trump and what they've done, you've also got john eastman in the georgia case who also had one of his emails produced to the january 6th committee because of a statement in furtherance of a crime as opposed to attorney-client privilege where he admits that trump knows he's filing an affidavit in federal court in georgia that's full of lies about the election being rigged. so we do have this pattern running throughout these cases where one of the chief witnesses against trump in each of these cases is really his own attorneys. >> nick ackerman, carrie cordero, thanks so much. appreciate it. >>> republican lawmakers returning to the hill today. who is staying mum on the trump indictment and who is talking? that's next. baby i hear one every night... every night. okay. i'll work on that. the queen sleep number c2 smart bed is now onlnly $899. save $200. plus, 48-month financining on all beds. shop now only at sleep number. subway just keeps getting better. break it down candace. they got world class bakers to develop their tastiest bread yet. t