[applause] >> i don't have to do my clint eastwood impersonation the deputy assistant to the president at the national security council also the author for his current work wrote the flight 93 election. michael? >> i remember that piece a look like 10 million words he thought it was hard to answer. so what was i going to say? i don't know. i have to begin from a position that i don't know what populism is. with william jennings bryan or with any other great populist figures in american history nobody ever says that as a compliment if you are a populist you are bad. i take at face face value but explore that a little more. so democracy is good but in fact there should be the obligation of democracy throughout the world may be the subterfuge but if you hear this from certain intellectuals just to be clear. democracy is good and populism is bad so he would tell you because the latin term for the people so there is a slight difference that subconsciously it is a part of the whole people that it is many for the multitude but that means majority rule in that it is bad and democracy is good s

o-oscar so i have to do my clint eastwood impersonation. michael, glad to have you, assistant deputy communications to the security council and is also the author before his current work in that capacity he wrote the flight 93 election. >> i remember that piece. it was like 10 million words and they wrote a rebuttal and sullivan found me at some point and said he thought it was very good but hard to answer. what was i going to say? i have to begin from a position of ignorance because i still don't know what that position of populist is. i know it is associated with williams jennings bryan. any other great populist figures in history those are the only ones i can think of. the only one that is supposed to be bad, nobody says it is a compliment, if you're a populist you are bad, which is okay take that at face value that we shoulbut we shouldexplore it a . the one thing that we know that is unquestionably good is democracy. that's the only legitimate form of government and it is an obligation or should be an obligation in the united states go