one ofs dozer gardner, the founders of eaton vance.es still a conservative eaton vance-like value play? eric: for specific questions, i will defer to our growth team. tom: nobody is watching, come on, eric. eric: we certainly have conservative investments. we also have investments for more growth oriented investors. when you break down the equity market, you are exactly right. can almost bifurcate between tech stocks and everything else. but if you get a bounce, the diversification perspective, at some point we will get a cyclical rotation in the economy, and he will see ian equities and other parts of the u.s. equity market that are more sensitive to the cyclicals pick up relative to tech, but that ultimately has a place in the past. tom: is growth a yield alternative? eric: with government bond yields as low as we have talked about throughout most of this conversation, you are having income from stocks as another alternative to get income as opposed to just from bonds. so i do think when you pull base rates globally to zero, investor