that editor, ebba kalondo, joins us now. ebba, thanks very much for taking the time.w it's a very late night for you as well. what was the first thing he said to you? >> he said he wanted to claim responsibility for all the attacks. in toulouse. those were the first things he said and that he was part of a group that was allied to al qaeda, operating in france. those were the first things he said. >> then i know he told you he wanted to avenge the deaths of palestinian children, protest the military's involvement in afghanistan. did you believe him, that he really was the shooter? >> no. no, not at all. i thought it was a 16-year-old who stole his father's telephone at 1:00 in the morning. he had a very juvenile voice and extremely impeccable french. i thought it was a prank call really. we have so many of them at our network. there's so many people from all parts of the world who get upset with current affairs stories that i thought it was just another one of such -- of such calls. but then there was the extreme focus and the structure of his arguments and he was --