they think t image ec panacea is give them more money. unlike businesses, they never think about the next step. say i have a pizza shop and i now pay my employees, the minimum rate goes up and i pass, where does the government think that money comes from? it comes from the pizza shop owner. from the end of the year, he has less money. he doesn't open another pizza shop employing more people. the government says, ah, pay them more money, problem solved. it's easy. they never think like a business sense, that's the problem. that's why i can go on and on with the business failures. they don't get it. >> i think you and tracy and jonas should start a pizza. jonas. weigh in. >> i will do one as well and also pay fair wages and we'll compete. >> you will be out of business in a 84, don't worry. >> jonas what do you think? >> the price of cheese goes up every 84. it doesn't put everybody out of pidz za business. >> the price of cheese goes up for everyone, jonas. >> that's what would happen with the minimum wage. >> i'm not denying the prices wo