neil: do you think he is nuts. >> you are eccentric most of them are. point is, once you commercialize an enterprise, and have shareholders and governance, you have to apply a different discipline, many founders do not have that discipline. neil: visionaries don't fit? >> to some degree, many if not most don't, then have you that dilemma, how do you keep that creativity and motivation going, because founder believes more often than not are a great manager. neil: that founder saids, that company i created is no more, it is different. >> when you lose control, when you are not the one individual controlling the company, and shares, i do believe this laps, you don't like the evolution of the company. in many case, i think that dichotomy is just because you are a very good innovative creetor scientist does not make you a good manager, different disciplines. neil: joe thank you very much. >> my pleasure. neil: well here is a good news about this whole revelation on this whole gdp u, no one is talking tax hikes or spending cuts either. we learned a lot of us

i think that, you know, in france, the eccentricity -- for me, eccentricity is very chic and it is what i love. it is so much about the good taste, which paralyzed. it is still a city where everybody meets profession, sure, but it is sad that you did not seek only may be in the young people, but you do not see when people are in the rain, let's say, in society, like having the joy to address. like you have to be like the color of the street of paris. you ought not to be remarkable. it is very demanding of the people. so i said to the people, no, we have to be like everyone else. in london, it was completely different, and it still is. more distance that makes them, for me, more fascinating than the french. >> we want to take questions from the audience, but i did just want to ask you a quick question about your work in movies because that has been so extraordinarily exceptional. i think probably a lot of people -- i know you have been to the academy of arts and all the students, but i wonder how many people in this audience know how involved you have been in the performing arts doing co

even people you're normally thinking of those republicans, wealthy people who have stock options eccentric, the californian republican party looks like the texas republican party. everyone jokes that their platform, and that just does not appeal, even to wall street people. they vote regularly for democrats because they basically have no choice. so, i mean, again, it is not really what people are thinking and how they're voting. if they can only vote between two alternatives just the fact that they continually vote for democrats is not mean that there are a different kind of republican. even ronald reagan, the voting paths may be very different. >> host: and that is because the republican party itself is controlled. >> guest: of four republican, the current chairman realizes that a lot of the base, republican base in california has its roots in that rural areas. it moves with a social conservative. and i guess it's an anomaly, but in california, the recall is the opportunity when the entire electorate was voting. >> host: you have a chart in this book, and i want to ask you if this is stil

. >> jon: what is with the eccentricity of these dictators.m jung unhas a real weakness for the "police academy" movie. there is always some crazy offshoot of something-- i mean, we sent dennis rodman to north korea, for god's sakes. i'm sure we could get nofler to do something. >> make it happen. >> jon: for rear for real? ( laughter ) >> i think a lot of time the judiciary is annoyed by the moralizing of tell us what to do. we get this question a lot, and it's really hard to say whether eye think it's tremendously important for women to have the support from all over the world and for their cause but how it impacts the judicial process -- >> so it's difficult for to us say, boy, we'd love to support these women but it's tenuous because that could also be seen as arrogance from the west and the types of things that get us in trouble as well. >> initially, this was characterized as western founded, which it wasn't. it was very easy to label it as such. and i think the more you push and the more-- you know, there's a great resistance to being l

transcription, or for any errors in transcription. ] >> throughout history, people are different, eccentriculsive even, or maybe a little strange. >> a visionary is somebody who has a very good acute sense of where they are, their foresight into the future, have great imagination and bring it into a practical terms. >> visionaries are people that would like to contribute to society. we all have an obligation in life to be able to help people. we owe that to society. >> most thought they were crazy. but it turns out, they were right. and even though they didn't have a crystal ball, their passion and prediction changed the world as we know it. >> it's one thing to have a vision. it's another thing to put together all of the elements necessary to accomplish that vision. >> and while golf's visionaries may not have changed the world, they certainly changed their sport. a global ambassador, fanatical and fitness -- >> i certainly can't stretch and make myself taller, but what i can do is make myself the fittest. fast! back. >> an insurance salesman dreaming of building championship golf courses

in the nbc bay area exclusive we go behind the scenes with the eccentric venture capitalist tim draper. ♪ it doesn't sound or like your usual university. it is unusual thanks to one of the most unusual venture capitalists in the world. >> i will fail and fail again until i succeed. i will explore the world with gusto and enthusiasm. i will pursue fairness, openness, health and fun with all that i encounter. mostly fun. >> reporter: meet tim draper the man behind draper university for heros. students around the world are shelling out $10,000 for an eight-week course on how to become the next big thing and draper should know. he's a third generation who helped to launch skype, and tesla. and what he preaches at draper u is failure and how to learn from it. >> biggest failure and be honest. name some company that you can say i can't believe i did that. >> biggest failure by far is that we -- are the ones that we failed to fund. we were outbid for yahoo. we were in a bidding war for facebook and we lost that. and then we had six competitive companies when i met with the guys from google. s

they look bizarre and eccentric, but the engineering beneath it is absolutely exceptional. >> logan:move towards the altar, the columns are made from stronger and stronger stone. gaudiÍ chose red porphery from iran for the ones that bear the heaviest load, because it's among the strongest in the world. if you had to define, sort of, the one thing that distinguished gaudiÍ as an architect, what would it be? >> van hensbergen: the capacity to see space in a totally different way, to make space explode, to see a building as a sculpture rather than just as a place to live in or a roof over your head. he's someone who reinvented the language of architecture, which no other architect has ever managed to do. >> logan: how many years ahead of his time was he? >> van hensbergen: oh, he was a century ahead, he was a century ahead. >> logan: gaudiÍ knew the sagraa famiÍlia would not be completed in his lifetime, so he spent years building these elaborate plaster models. this one is of the church's ceiling. they would have to act as a guide for future generations of architects to follow his comp

. >> bill moyers: for a moment, wasn't there kind of quirky or eccentric symbiosis between the tea party and occupy wall street? that, 'cause in their own different ways, they were reacting to the colossus that was coming apart all around them. and upending their lives. >> richard wolff: absolutely. i think in country after country going through this crisis, you're seeing more or less the same thing. a upsurge of right wing agony and hostility and opposition to what's happening in this capitalist system and a left wing one. but only difference from country to country is the balance between the two. and i think the tea party comes first because being a right wing party in this country's much easier, much more socially acceptable to form, and there's the old roots of it, anyway, in the john birch societies and all the rest in american history. so we have a tea party resurgence. then echoed a couple years later by the occupy wall street, which is a left wing response to all of this. and i don't think we've seen the end of either of these. i think these were the first explosions of this proc

and prone to behave eccentric glee as a designated victim group they are especially susceptible to the associated pathologies e.g. victim hoaxes for attention spite or crash cash reward that's not only unbelievably sexist it's factually bizarre men who join the military are also a minority of their gender it's just very very ugly that he was. such a crazy alert farting fellows a group of british police officers like these fine men here follow so as the middle of a truly smelly crime boss last week after he still unnamed team member of theirs let one rip during a routine street patrol after rolling down the windows to deodorize their vehicles the officers caught a whiff of another rancid smell at first they thought it was one of their team cutting the cheese once again but after investigating further they find out if found out that the pungent odor was emanating from a nearby pot farm like the one seen here was worth about twelve thousand british pounds like this are police have confirmed the bust are saying that it was all down to this officer and his flatulence you know what they say

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ranging between the uses to pool surprise and that is against him from egypt's coastal city about eccentric they started this often named after demonstration by our two government protesters and said descended into the scenes when they were confronted by their you supported the president the police had after are trying to contain the violence using tear gas however they are unable to control the situation and i have been fatalities because you had reports that protesters have attacked the missing motherhood headquarters in the closest city outtakes on tear gas and tour states this is a worrying trend here in egypt where we're having these very bloody clashes between civilians as the country becomes increasingly to find its time meanwhile here in the capital as you can see behind me hundreds of thousands of people have come out in support of the president in a city and then they're clinging to see as a red line they say they voted for the president's plan and that they want their voice to be heights and if the president is serious china should be used to change it should be true the bonnet b

goldman sachs nestle novartis eccentric cetera so i think it's i tried to focus my piece on on. trying to put these two things together the the the lobbying scandal and the massive lobbying event that is build a big i mean when we talk of low being expected you kind of think oh that's people kind of going into the lobby of parliament and sort of saying can i speak to you. bill the biggest much more powerful than that so it kind of invites politicians into their lobby you know right now i guess the big question i have is that if the word is is. group of folks get together these movers and shakers like davus or these other kind of confound that we have around the world and the agenda is here and we don't know what the agenda is and the press for the most part is uninvited we don't know what's going on and then you have scandals like live born and barclays or a just b. c and there it is are not theories these are crimes so the question is why not focus the energy and going after the criminals in other words there are real criminals and they've committed criminal acts you know build

from prison after 25 years for murdering his girlfriend and the murder victim's brother, a wealthy eccentric guy accuses the mayoral candidate of having a hand in the murder so it's based on the reinvestigation of the murder and talks about politics and murder and old love affairs and the mystical kind of relationship between identical twins. >> host: how does it and? >> guest: well, very well. [laughter] >> host: scott turow novelist, lawyer and president of the authors guild has joined us here on the tv. "identical" comes out in a sober. [applause] >> thank you. i'm a little nervous. to be here this morning with all you people. at the book expo. i am one of those people that believe of those people that believe it or not you can see me on television and i may not look like that guy but i'm the kind of guy when he gets into any area he looks or the bookstore and he hangs around the bookstore. it's a magnet for me. i like to explore bookstore like dating. i explored the recesses of bookstores. i started to his c. grad school at chapel hill and i fell in love with politics and prose in d.c..

can infer from that and working hard sometimes mean you're inhibiting inactivity as opposed to an eccentric kind of phenomenon. people who are better at tasks show less activity. >> host: they become or optimize. showing less activity. but they go pretty far in her marketing. versus critique of super bowl commercials. the suns are looser. >> guest: that's kind of comical. >> host: i like, cool. >> guest: job, there was a neuroscientist to put himself up against the super bowl audience and ppm -- according to him, people shouldn't have responded well to a fedex ad and which apparently a caveman didn't use fedex and his bus had scolded him. i so came back to his cave he gets killed a dinosaur. >> host: the evolution people should be denied. >> guest: i don't think they coexisted with narrow marketing either. his advice to them would have been based on the way viewers of that ad, based on the activity he observed in their brains was the make the lab, which was a very, very conservative structure, but it's part of the limbic system from a major part of the implicated strongly in the mediation o

it can tolerate his eccentricity and then it snaps. this like tahrir square, i don't think so. when you look at what happened in egypt and you were there in the middle of it, something like 800 egyptians fell in that protest. this is nothing like that. let's give erdogan his due. he had come to power through the ballot box. he's won three elections since 2002. he's not mubarak. he's a man brought to power by the ballot box. he's a tough guy. but toughness just isn't good enough. he has the character of the neighborhood of the istanbul that he comes from. he's a tough guy. this is a circumstance when toughness just isn't good enough. >> i think professor ajami is absolutely right in terms of his particular character. he is known as a fighter. remember, he was the mayor of istanbul before this. just this evening, an official told me, everybody is wondering about erdogan, and erdogan himself says i'm not going to change. now, is this going to be the moment of truth and how is this going to all fallout? but what we also need to remember, according to, let's say, the former foreign

and other lost tales of love, war, and genius, as written by our genetic code" he has a cast of eccentric characters who lead deron detailed biographies. from the beginning of genetic discovery in the university labs to a broom closet with microscopes and beakers to today's scientists who are moving science-fiction toward reality sam draws you into stores of personal struggle and triumph and on your journey he teaches you something you didn't even realize you were learning. he has worked in the radio lab, all things considered, he will actually be doing a live webinar for one of my clients, the american chemical society in june. his latest book is "the violinist's thumb: and other lost tales of love, war, and genius, as written by our genetic code" and it is a new york times best seller and amazon top five science book of the year and here to tell us about our own dna and how we know what we know about it, please welcome mr. sam kean. [applause] >> hello, everyone. thank you all for coming out this afternoon and joining me. i appreciate it. i will be talking "the violinist's thumb: and ot

. >> jeffrey's ex-girlfriend, holly freeman gave the jury just a closer look at how eccentric and dangerous mother's behavior had become. >> she had been storing knives in the headboard of her bed. >> jeffrey, she said, wanted to move out but didn't have the money. and he was also concerned about leaving his little sister with a mother who had been violent with both of them. >> he felt bad leaving julia there, and he was worried for her. >> and she also testified jeffrey told her, if his father didn't get a divorce by summer, he would timely do it, move out on his own. >> he couldn't take it anymore. just the entire situation was weighing too much on him. >> but there was little physical evidence to support the prosecution's theory. no murder weapon was ever found. and there was no blood in jeffrey's car. no blood any where on him. the best the prosecution had was just a single drop of ruth pyne's blood on a handle in the laundry room sink. >> that would be the place to wash up. >> plenty of time to clean up. plenty time to bag up whatever he had to do and get out of there. >> prosecutors t

before it did, and all over remarkable was the founder of macave -- many of you watched him, an eccentric who is instructing viewers how to unstall the software of the co he founded has. even allegations about whether he murdered a guy in belize, all the weird disguises and fake illnesses, constant effort to light up a cigarette during the interview, he never did, by the way. all of it, you didn't get it this week. you missed it. but only because i feel your pain, i'm going to share some of this. maybe this will be what gets you off your couch and marching to the cable executive's house to demand you get fbn. what do you have to do? demand it. because you never want to miss an interview like this one again. >> after six and a half months of fighting the government and constant harassment, weekly harassment, i realize i cannot live here any more, and if in fact they collect me for questioning, i will never get out of prison, so i simply refuse to be detected. i slept in the jungle, moved throughout belize for a month and a half until i escaped into guatemala. >> you're a hard guy to miss,

you remember john mcafee, the eccentric millionaire chazed through gaut mall land belize, a person of interest in the murder of his neighbor. he's living in oregon talking about his name sake, mcafee anti virus program. >> oh, hello there. my name is john mcafee, i am the founder of the mcafee anti-virus software company, although i've had nothing to do with this company for 15 years, i still get volumes of mail asking how do i uninstall this software? i have no idea. >> oh, my goodness. there you go. the rest of it is on youtube. let me absolutely assure you it's incredibly not safe for work unless you have my job in which case it's my job to watch these sorts of videos. not something to queue up while you're at work. >> i like the fact he's rocking the hugh hefner smoking jacket. >> hundred dollar bills. it gets much worse from there. >> that's what we expect from that guy now. he looks like a character on "game of thrones." >> very interesting sense of humor. >> one way to put it. >> let's check the forecast with meteorologist christina loren. it's been gorgeous lately. it doesn't

. >> kroft: until the end of 2008, harry markopolos was an obscure financial analyst and mildly eccentric fraud investigator from boston who most people would never notice on the street. >> my modern greek hero. how you doing? >> kroft: but today he enjoys an almost heroic status, pursued by journalists and movie producers and honored by colleagues as the man who went to the securities and exchange commission and blew the whistle on bernie madoff and his $50 billion fraud. >> (blows whistle) thank you. thank you. please take your seats. >> kroft: but he seems uncomfortable with all the attention, and knows that he is no hero. >> i stand before you a $50 billion failure. (laughter) >> kroft: how many times did you send material to the sec? >> may 2000, october 2001, october, november, and december of 2005, then again june 2007, and finally april 2008. >> kroft: hmm. >> so five separate sec submissions. >> kroft: and in spite of all of the things that you did, it still ended up in disaster. >> there's nothing to be proud about in this case. i feel horrible about the result. it's been a tota

you have to create your actor stuff to make this person real, and then you have to heighten his eccentricitymake it but it always has to be real or the audience goes i don't care about that. >> it's the same thing in drama then. >> so you're just dropping the second part, and you're trying to be interesting and yet real and yet all the things you're supposed to do, so i don't find it that different actually. >> stick around. more with martin right after this. >>> come up after the break, not that i'm going totally canadian but we'll hit the road with keanu reeves in just a bit and we'll have wiz khalifa on the show tonight as well. see you soon. and be good for your face? [ female announcer ] now there's new neutrogena® naturals acne cleanser. acne medicine from the wintergreen leaf treats breakouts. no parabens or harsh sulfates. for naturally clear skin. [ female announcer ] neutrogena® naturals. i got gum. a kazoo. a candy necklace. i got one of these. helium. fabric softener. [ pop ] lipstick. two pills a day is what it takes to stay alive if you're h.i.v.-positive. those pills cost abou

. >> but it strikes me as a kind of intolerant attitude to the habits, foibles, eccentricities of other people. >> right. i would say i'm intolerable. >> [laughing] intolerable and intolerant. [laughter] >> no, i am. but i just can't be flexible on the policy. >> but lewis maltby, head of the work rights institute in princeton, new jersey, calls weyco's smoking ban a form of lifestyle discrimination. but he says it's perfectly legal in 20 states. and in most of america, a worker has virtually no rights at all. >> under the law in all but five states in america, your boss can fire you for any reason under the sun, including who you associate with after work, whether you're smoking or drinking in your own home, or a bumper sticker on your car, and you have no legal recourse. >> the boss at weyco says he fired those folk because smoking at home inevitably will cost him more for healthcare. >> the problem is, lots of things increase your healthcare cost-- smoking, drinking, eating junk food, not getting enough sleep, dangerous hobbies, skiing, scuba diving. if you allow employers to regulat

the mother is quite eccentric and the story is set in seattle with some really interesting quirky characters. it's a lot of fun. i don't know where it's going but i'm looking forward to finishing it. after that i'm going to be doing something of a book club with my son, miles, who is 16. this is something we did a couple of summers ago. we picked a couple of books and would read them and then would go to our local diner to excuse them and have breakfast, and this summer we picked two books so far. we're reading a biography of bruce spring steen, which should be a lot of fun. we're both springsteen fans, an interested to learn a little bit more about his background in new jersey and how he got to be who he is, and we're also going to read dan brown's "inferno" the ultimate summer beach book. i read the other dan brown books and i think miles will enjoy this one. he has a real knack for ending his chapters with cliffhangers that make you turn the page, and so i think miles will enjoy that a lot, and i think we'll have lots to talk about. so, should be a fun summer of reading. ...

. >> yeah, yeah, a borderline between mad and eccentric. >> here's the thing. t the local politicians who are all very wary, says he has done everything right. so hats off to him. >> okay. okay. we're going to go for a quick break. we'll be back. >> don't go anywhere. >> james bond and chinese people buying yachts. good? >> i'll be there. we went out and asked people a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed: the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ from capital one... boris earns unlimited rewards for his small business. can i get the smith contract, please? thank you. that's three new paper shredders. [ boris ] put 'em on my spark card. [ garth ] boris' small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase every day. great businesses deserve unli

you have to create your actor stuff to make this person real, and then you have to heighten his eccentricitymake it but it always has to be real or the audience goes i don't care about that. >> it's the same thing in drama then. >> so you're just dropping the second part, and you're trying to be interesting and yet real and yet all the things you're supposed to do, so i don't find it that different actually. >> stick around. more with martin right after this. >>> come up after the break, not that i'm going totally canadian but we'll hit the road with keanu reeves in just a bit and we'll have wiz khalifa on the show tonight as well. see you soon. ♪ [ male announcer ] just when you thought you had experienced performance, a new ride comes along and changes everything. ♪ the 2013 lexus gs, with a dynamically tuned suspension and adjustable drive modes. because the ultimate expression of power is control. this is the pursuit of perfection. try align. it's the number one ge recommended probiotic that helps maintain digestive balance. ♪ stay in the groove with align. little things anyone can do. i

you have to create your actor stuff to make this person real, and then you have to heighten his eccentricitymake it but it always has to be real or the audience goes i don't care about that. >> it's the same thing in drama then. >> so you're just dropping the second part, and you're trying to be interesting and yet real and yet all the things you're supposed to do, so i don't find it that different actual aly. >> stick around. more with martin right after this. >>> come up after the break, not that i'm going totally canadian but we'll hit the road with keanu reeves in just a bit and we'll have wiz khalifa on the show tonight as well. see you soon. (guy) i wannna catch a falcon! (girl) we should do that. (guy) i caught a falcon. (guy) you could eat a bug. let's do that. (guy) you know you're eating a bug. (girl) because of the legs. (guy vo) we got a subaru to take us new places. (girl) yeah, it's a hot spring. (guy) we should do that. (guy vo) it did. (man) how's that feel? (guy) fine. (girl) we shouldn't have done that. (guy) no. (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. has a l

but you start to see folks are a little bit less eccentric than robin. playing these characters. it is a sign of progress. >> john: tico, is it a sign of progress that we can have all straight actors playing gay roles with some rather specific sex scenes and there's no big outcry? >> i agree with what's been said. frankly, i thought the biggest stretch in the casting was having matt damon who is about my age play an 18-year-old was a little bit of a stretch. he didn't quite pull that off. >> john: fortunately, he has that painting in the attic that's aging for him. thank you, zach walls. check out his book, my two moms. tico almeida, thank you both so much. richard socarides will be stick around. up next, we'll be talking about the government snooping on everybody's verizon phone calls although if you work for the nsa, you already heard us talking about this on the phone earlier today. >> john: in the guardian today, a friend of the show, glenn greenwald reported the bombshell scoop that the national security agency is currently collecting the telephone records of millions of u.s

like an experiment and i guess when you've got that much money you can afford to do it like the eccentriclionaire who tries to resurrect dinosaurs, you move on. does that worry you? >> it does worry me. these all rumor and speculation. who really knows if they are going to build a gaming console or watch. i don't think they are going to. sometimes it worries me, google's approach because, for example, on monday, google reader is going to be shut down because ultimately it was an experiment and the millions of people use it, it's going away because google has other things that it wants to do, and -- and, you know, 20% of every google's employee time is spending their own sort of passion project and that's maybe an experiment, too. >> but lance, what's the problem with that? that's the whole point of these businesses is to try to come up with something good. most of them are going to fail probably. what's the alternative? >> well, no, look, i'm not speaking out against innovation but i feel -- i sometimes think that there's a clear message from companies about what's a product and what is p

an eccentric >> do not know what prism is they have not heard of its day are not aware of any back doorsof the government use. they take the users' privacy very seriously part. according to a >> reporter: according to the present program is legal. >> of the rise by congress and bipartisan majorities have approved them congress is 10 continually briefed on how these are conducted. there's a whole range of safecard involved. and federal judges are overseeing the entire program through out. some information and is classified. but there are checks in dollars is to make sure there's no abuse. >> reporter: mr. obama also talked affordable health care with growing pains and incoming obama care. with varying levels of health coverage bolster is next. >> pam: >> jacqueline: from san mateo bridge is pretty hot out there today is see the satellite picture. very warm and look and our inland valleys with one of two in plaza 10, a 89 at antioch was 91 in nevada and sunnyvale at this hour. this is the default is still lingering there it is going to be even hunter out there tomorrow. with the marine inf

with the children's choir that i work with, and we stated a dormitory which had a lot of odd eccentricities in the cafeteria that were on the wall. it was things like slide rules, and all my kids all the way up to a senior in high school did not recognize a slide rule. that seems kind of odd to really perceive that. in addition, they had a big cabinet on the wall, and it was a card catalog from a library. my seniors and juniors recognized that, but i did not ask them. i said anyone under the age of 12, tell me what that is. all sorts of interesting answers. nobody even began to get a clue to what that was. they would say it obviously has course in it, it could hold letters. is it a letter sorter? to listen to this conversation going on was very interesting. when we finally tell them what it was for, that you had little cards in their that was each eight link to a book or a journal of some sort, there were absolutely amazed. really? you mean you made a card up for each book in the library? there was this kind of thinking that you could tell from people who had already been exposed to somethi