>> she holds ecclesiastical office. she teaches the religion class. >> let's say she leads the class in grace before lunch. is a somebody who would be covered by the ministerial exception? >> the lower courts said they would not be covered and we are not challenging that role. >> i thought your position would be if she's a commissioned minister, as distinguished from a teacher who conducts grace or takes the class to chapel. i take it the chief is asking -- to characterize her as a minister. the extent of for religious duties to not matter if she is commissioned as a minister. >> we think that makes her a minister. a jesuit -- the jets wou >> can we try whether it's a sham? >> is a sham different from a pretext? >> a sham is more extreme. you can decide if she is a minister. a person doing nothing -- we have a church who tries to say everyone who worked is a minister. >> you would allow the government court to probe behind the churches assertion that this person is a minister -- you would allow that, right? you would no

in around 1100, an irish king gave cashel to the church, and it grew to become the ecclesiastical capital of all ireland. 800 years ago, this monastic community was just a chapel and a round tower standing high on this bluff. it looked out then, as it does today, over the plain of tipperary, called the golden vale because its rich soil makes it ireland's best farmland. on this historic rock, you stroll among these ruins in the footsteps of st. patrick, and wandering through my favorite celtic cross graveyard, i feel the soul of ireland.

i would like to say how very ecclesiastic we're about the plan. how very grateful we are to the planning department to the way they handled engagement with our community. they did a very active job and we were able to develop a dialogue. there was a real acknowledgment that what we said showed up in the plan. supervisor wiener: do you have paper copies? it wanted to make sure your letter is in the record. >> i have one copy, i can leave it. the mta came through with an interesting survey of parking needs at a crucial time and that was a very well timed, strategic thing to do and i am grateful to them for doing that. i was shocked to hear that -- this is his last public meeting. i am pleased was here for that. he has done a great job. the last thing i want to say is to follow up on what you have been talking about on the transportation issue. these are the hot topics that do need a lot of attention. we're going to be actively engaged in the community on this. it sounds like you will be, too and i will be glad to see it. thank you. supervisor mar: a

that is the effort by dominated people to throw off the ecclesiastical and dynastic regimes and identifiedmselves as a national people who could govern themselves. there was jewish nationalism and many different forms and each based on geographic borders borders, language, religion, culture, any of a variety of reasons. so abdul registers all of mesopotamia and auctions off the right to to build a railroad from berlin to baghdad. in those-- the road meant a way of transportation but he also gave the 40 negative zero right of way on each side and the railway company and you need to understand. even today, and no one knows who own or know of this set toyo of mesopotamia. the joy to date has the right to exploit. they exploit the oil.