add, just toso ecco what -- just a ecco what what jonathanho said, a small group of people can be mobilized and a post on such a media can instantly mobilize thousands of people to act in a particular way. a very simple example of this is when my daughter was in high school, somebody had a party and it somebody posted on facebook or something and there were immediately thousands of people at this house in houston. there is no weight word-of-mouth or small town or anything -- that phenomenon is really new and it made a very realize that we had to think differently about where they were going. what would have been an act of rebellion by a teenager, a party in the house with her mother wasn't home, becomes potentially dangerous event. that's what happens on our campuses. that could have been contained on the campus among people who know each other, suddenly becomes potentially dangerous and threatening and we are charged with managing that in a way that protects literally, protects the physical safety of people we are meant to protect, and also honors the values we think our institution stands

that i think it will be so important for us to meet our students where they are and i just want to ecco a comment that you may just a moment ago, creating -- we are going to have to be doing more active work to create an environment we assumed we created on college campuses, which is an environment where students feel safe enough to be able to get outside of their comfort zones. what we have heard and learned in the last 18-24 months, is that they don't. that is felt quite broadly across the entire political spectrum. and so that is going to take a lot of work. i think we should lean into it and do it because it's absolutely quote of the enterprise that i think michael just expressed, people expect of us and it's the right expectation of us. how we do that, i welcome continuing conversations, sharing ideas about how to make that happen, but i know that it's not to dismiss it, but to engage them. >> i would agree with carla said. i think it's important for us to model aggressive and vigorous discussion for our students and show that a person survived it. at the same time, we have to know