still has nothing to do with surrogate motherhood in this case, yes, it is rather connected with eco tamd so on. and here at the church. uh, there is a discussion here in general inside the church, so the question is, a but usually at the moment, uh, this is the subject, but the pastoral conversation with the family and the decision that here they make is taken by the family, naturally, because the person, well, man has free will, and no one can take away this free will from him, because the lord gave him this free will, but this is an object. i repeat today. this is the subject of hmm and dialogue in this case, the conversation and care of the shepherd about the family, because it cannot be here. here in these questions. it's extremely subtle complex uh, people come to the priest with weeping eyes. you see, there can be no formal answer here, but a reference to the letter of the law, even church law. here it is always pastoral participation. do you know the story about it? i’ll tell you, it’s a slightly different topic, but it shocked me. at one time, the lighting told me, and a parishi