>> they see this chaos and we can keep advantage of the chaos to our advantage, ecreate an even better place for us to operate in. on the other hand, nations see to go in and embrace the syrian people and embrace what is their wide spread -- they just want to be normal people living in a normal country with normal and every day aspirations. as much as anything else, our involvement i think is about what influence our view of the world, which we think is better for the syrian people could ultimately play in that country. >> having own been on this commit for a year, having trofld to livia between libyan as the seario wouldn'ted out a couple of days ago. but one of the things i struck by was pro american graffiti on the walls, people walking up to us on the street, and i know it wasn't staged, to thank you for the role america played. i think it's going to be really hard five years from now -- not impossible. anything's possible. i'm certainly not an expert on the culture. i think it going to be hard for one of those young guys who was thing us and convince him to join some kind of anti-