instead the secretary of state was sent to ecuador to tell ecuador since i guess the administration thinks we owe ecuador more than we owe one of the 50 states or the u.s. citizens -- we owe more to ecuador apparently, so they were told about the lawsuit that would be forth coming against arizona's law from people who announccd without ever reading the law that it was a terrible thing. it was racist, it was profiling and they haven't even read the law. you know, it's scary. it's really scary what's going on around here when the law doesn't matter. i never thought i would see a time in our country's history like this where the law doesn't matter. i really enjoyed the "o'reilly show" on fox but i heard him say what's wrong with a c.e.o. having the attorney general there who has already announced he is investigatinn and what he wants to charge them with a crime, have him sitting there for no other reason obviously other than to intimidate the c.e.o. of british petroleum and get them to fork up a $20 billion fund. there's a reason. but not one man in this country is supposed to have that. bill

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