ed miliband. >> mr. speaker, the whole country would have heard they are spending 852 million pounds and he can't even promise they will be rehired to do their old job. he's promised no top to reorganization. he promised the bonfire. use greg moore. he promised a better deal for patients and things are getting worse. people asking up and down this country is was he doing for our nhs. [shouting] >> with the whole country would have noticed is that at a time when people are worried about strike, he can ask about strike because he's in the pocket of the union. [shouting] what the whole country, what the whole country would have noticed is at a time when greece is making huge problems over its deficit he can't talk about greece because his plan is to make britain like greece. [shouting] what the whole country would have noticed is at a time when the economy is the key issue he can't talk about the economy because of his ludicrous plan for tax cuts. that's what we see. week after week. he has to talk about th

well i certainly think the labor leader ed miliband would regard it as a significant political scalp if he could force the prime minister out and i do think in fairness to david cameron i mean he did put in quite a strong performance in the debate today i think also in fairness to to ed miliband i don't think he or his staff had necessarily formed the view that cameron was going to do this is there's absolutely no doubt that cameron credibility has been damaged i think as much for his mismanaging. the issue as mismanagement of this issue rather than questions over each person and you said good performance today that he gave her you know what it was grilled in parliament he said he never had an inappropriate conversation over her dogs for full control of sky but that kind of raised more questions than it answered didn't it how do you interpret what we know tell us little bit more about that meeting today. well i think i think to be honest inadvertently i mean david cameron may have attempted to evade the issue about his discussions with news international but his evasiveness made it v

ed miliband. >> mr. speaker, this is not the time for technicalities or low ball -- [laughter] >> we have said consistently throughout this process that this bid should be referred to the competition commission. this is the right way forward. and the prime minister, instead of engaging technicalities he should speak for the country on this issue because this is what people want him to do. i hope he will go off from this question time and think again because in the interest of the media industry and the british public that this is properly referred to the competition commission in the way that all other bids are dealt with. now, what we also know mr. speaker, as well as needing a public inquiry, as well as the bskyb competition is that this was not a rogue reporter but a wider systemic pattern of abuses. the public see a major news organization in this country when no one prepares prepared to take responsibility for happened. nobody is denying that millie doweler's phone was hacked and nobody is denying t

him but this one has landed him it has damaged him i mean equally it has also been standing of ed miliband a lot of the opposition so political damage has been done i'm not sure it's a matter of this stage i don't know just maybe website thanks for being on our team much appreciated. and of course we're always keen to know your opinion on all the stories we covered this one as well as on our web site today we're asking you this question what's the biggest fallout could be do you think from the u.k. phone hacking scandal while the majority of you think it will all end up with rupert murdoch losing your slice of the world's media take the patent that's what you say and you can see the graph of the support of our team voters think that the u.k. front mode is impossible for a fifth of you predicting conventional media losing out the bloggers but a lot of bloggers lately online and they're fifteen percent of you believe the biggest outcome will be nothing more than an academy award winner pick very nice or you can change those results with us know what you think go online to our web site r t v

. >> ed miliband. >> here, here. >> mr. speaker, can i join in paying tribute of highlander battalion in scotland. he served our country and died in the most horrific circumstances and i'm sure the thoughts of the whole house are with his family and friends. >> here, here. >> mr. speaker, the whole country has been appalled by the disclosures, the 7/7 victims the parents of holly wells and jessica chapman and, of course, there is a major police investigation on the way. there is one currently under way in our country. this clearly did not get to the truth. it is important that we had inquiries that are public and independent. this is the behavior of individual people. clearly, we cannot start all those. it may be possible to start it earlier. i will be happy to discuss. we will make sure we get this right. it is possible. they can start the process now. they should immediately appoint a senior leader. next year, they will have power to call witnesses on those. they are covering a number of key issues. there is the nature of

de ed miliband says it was beyond belief that anyone would undertake such a cruel and immoral act. but some in politics say political leaders have been too easily cowed by murdoch's enterprises. >> politicians are frightened of news international and they need to act. but there are calls for full inquiry once the criminal investigation has been completed into what happened in the milly dowler case and many others. bbc news reporting. >> we can speak to our political correspondent in our london studio. this brings together two of the most explosive stories you can imagine. give us a little more background into the milly dowler case, which has captured the attention of the nation. >> yes. milly dowler was a 13-year-old schoolgirl who went missing in 2002, sparking a nationwide search. six months later she was found dead. the case has recently been back in the headlines because last month and was sent to jail for murder. the girl's family had to go through really quite a dramatic court experience under pressure from defense lawyers. so now the suggestion from their lawyers is at the t

ed miliband, the leader of the labor party -- labour party, they will be arguing for his power to be curbs. there is a big discussion. in the u.s., and they are investigating. tomorrow and the next days and weeks are going to be fascinating in that respect. >> as always, we thank you very much. on to libya now, where rebels have claimedictory in the battle for a strategic town. there are conflicting reports about whether or not they have complete control of the town which has been held since gaddafi -- by gaddafi since march. most of the gaddafi forces are said to be retreating west. rebels say 12 fighters were killed and hundreds wounded. the capture would mark a major rebel breakthrough in their bid to push westward. the foreign ministers of europe have been meeting in brussels to discuss the situation in syria. they are considering a series of measures to resolve the standoff between the president and his opponent. in syria itself, anti-government protests are continuing, and activists are warning of potential civil war in the country. >> syria was top of the agenda in brussels to

. >> ed miliband. >> here, here. >> mr. speaker, can i join in paying tribute of highlander battalion in scotland. he served our country and died in the most horrific circumstances and i'm sure the thoughts of the whole house are with his family and friends. >> here, here. >> mr. speaker, the whole country has been appalled by the disclosures, the 7 victims the parents of holly wells and jessica chapman and, of course, it does not involve police officers who were involved in the original investigation. that clearly did not get to the truth. but i do think that we have inquiries that are public and independent and have public confidence. there are two vital issues that we need to look into. the first is the original police inquiry and why that did not get to the bottom, and the second is about the behavior of individual people and individual media organizations, and has the right hon. john allman says, a book into this country. it may be possible to start some of the work earlier. i'm willing to work to make sure we get this

. >> ed miliband speaking in london was determined to pursue the comparison. >> paul stephenson takenresponsibility and resigned over the hiring of mr. coulson's deputy. when the prime minister hasn't even apologized for the hiring of mr. coulson. we need representative to get to the truth of what happened but the prime minister is hamstrungpy the decisions he made and his refusal to face up to them. >> this afternoon boris johnson said paul stephenson's resignation was the right call but the mayor of london wasn't that helpful to his friend david cameron. >> mr. john son, michael crick, bbc "newsnight". if it was as you say the right call for paul stephenson to resign over the employment of a pr man who had been arrested in the phone-hacking scandal, shouldn't david cameron resign over the employment of a pr man who has been employed in the phone-hacking scandal? >> i'm not here to discuss government appointments. i'm here to talk about events in the metropolitan police service. those questions you must direct to government. i don't think there is recross in this matter actually beca

remains the best person to lead britain out of this crisis of confidence it's cameron's arch rival ed miliband who believes he's got the skittle shaking and he's eyeing up a spare that will see the whole lot come crashing around so that the country can have the leadership we need why why doesn't he do more why doesn't he do more than give our apology and provide the full apology now for hiring mr colson and bringing him into the heart of downing street. commentators say the pin spotted machine has placed the prime minister on a firmer footing following wednesday's game in the house of commons but the match is still far from won you know. he is damaged before base he was he was beginning to develop the turf on camera because none of that sort of damage that we can the government actually stuck to him the scandals for stress ignatius' all round top executives at news corp and the u.k.'s two most senior police officers many are asking if the prime minister will be next to find himself lying face down in the gully. david cameron's promised a full some apology if it turns out and he calls and was l

fire for cozying up to and colluding with the murdoch empire and in the wings cameron's arch rival ed miliband is limbering up to step into the ring so the country can have the leadership we need why why doesn't he do more why doesn't he do more than give up our apology and provide the full apology now for hiring mr colson and bringing him into the heart of downing street. commentators say the prime minister came out on top in wednesday's round in the house of commons when he was grilled by m.p.'s over his relationship with news corp but the fight is far from once you know. he is damaged before he was anything to develop and that there's a limit to one power because none of that sort of damage that was circling the government actually stuck to him the scandal has forced resignations all round top executives at news corp and. thank you case two most senior police offices many are asking why the prime minister shouldn't be next for a knock out david cameron promised a full apology if it turns out and he calls him about his involvement with king but some say that would be enough when it's over an

course is will play very much into the hands of labor's ed miliband the opposition . yes absolutely and in like and and where you have one side that is getting hammered because of a scandal or the other sides are going to try to capitalize on it as much as possible and that's obviously what you're seeing here don't expect that to stop it's probably going to continue for for a long time going forward definitely weeks and perhaps months david this scandal or what i look at is going to seriously affect the way the media works in the future isn't how much you think it's going to change on both sides of the poll. it's going to have some effect but it is very early right now there really is no way to tell first of all how deeply this is going to cut into news corp itself it's a huge company that has properties of course and many many countries england just being one of them here in the united states there are numerous numerous different operations not just in news but an entertainment as well so to say how it's going to affect news corp is one one question in and of itself

for cruising up to the looting with the murdoch empire and in the wings cameron starched rival ed miliband is limbering up to step into the ring so the country and how the leadership we need why why doesn't he do more why doesn't he do more than give us our apology and provide the full apology now for hiring mr colson and bringing him into the heart of downing street to us commentators say the prime minister came out on top in wednesday's rounds in the house of commons when he was grilled by these bikies relationship with nice quote but the fight is far from once you know. he is damaging for base. and the right intent from cameron because none of the damage that would actually stop him this scandal has forced resignations all round top executives at news corp and the u.k.'s two most senior police officers many are asking why the prime minister shouldn't be next for a knock out david cameron's promise of fulsome apology if it turns out and he calls in light to him about his involvement with phone hacking but some say that won't be enough when it's over and we are a long way from that it's f

ed miliband. the leader of the scottish national party, and the hon. member for brighton pavilion. i thank them all for joining it -- with the tabling motion before us today. i also thank the members from the conservative benches who set out their support for the motion. mr. speaker, is unusual for a motion in this house to succeed before the debate on it begins, but this is no ordinary motion, and this is no ordinary day. make no mistake, the decision made by news corp. was not the decision that wanted to make. it may have been announced before this debate, but it would not have happened without it. above all, this is a victory for people, the good, decent people of britain, outraged by the betrayal of trust by parts of our newspaper industry, who have spoken out up and down this country, who have contacted members across this house and told us of their concerns. the will of parliament was clear. the will of the public was clear. and now, britain's most powerful media owner has had to bend to that will. this debate is an opportunity to understand how we got here and where we go fr

answer over and over and over and over again but this one is really that this is a labor leader ed miliband from the u.k. just days destruction. of the road trip get ready to go straight into a bill and still perhaps get round to give to each table put aside the rhetoric and see the problem. is to get rather leaders as you can tell you will put aside the recruit get ready because she will put aside the rhetoric and stop this kind of action when you get strong as a rule. that was pretty bad i guess is really talking point you could remember oh yeah he our person before me was the deal did he do that on purpose was he trying to make a point politically. it was a little bit of a longer interview and so we showed you where he discovered being the same lines but it was you couldn't think of anything else to say how do people like that even get elected i mean it was literally the same talking points just rearranged and they arranged and rearranged but you. how to ask in this kind of a situation where is the interviewer and then why doesn't the interviewer say anything like you're saying the same

s so this is not the end of this scandal certainly not and indeed the labor leader ed miliband is calling for the breakup of murdoch's media empire so you can respond laura most journalists nourse the role of michelle trembly told me there's a lot of evidence rupert murdoch's newspapers and the police for information. there's been reports of about one hundred thirty thousand pounds worth of bribes given to the police in the in england but at the moment they are telling queries going on on every level within the police outside of police with the communities with the judge as well in all every kind of the main in this situation so we have to wait and see what this investigation will bring according to a biography. of murdoch rupert murdoch may he says that it's likely that they will speak more than we should all that they're not exactly prepared for these kind of meetings and the last one in two thousand and three i believe they have a congress already says stated that there was police corruption that he paid police officials to get information about the public it is even said that the news

s so this is not the end of this scandal certainly not and indeed the labor leader ed miliband is calling for the break up of murdoch's media empire. that is laura rupert murdoch and his former yukos c.e.o. rebecca brooks and facing employees on tuesday over the scandal but media analyst phil reeves told us the practice of police being paid for information by the media is not likely to disappear any time soon. this is a good example of what the police have been doing in the kind of murdoch years they've been using a rest they've been leaking they've been paid for telling people when celebrities have been arrested actually manipulating the arrests of people and it's actually a practice it has become in trying now in my view as a result of the kind of bribery thing so this would hardly be out of practice but i don't think it's going to deflect any and i mean there are so many m.p.'s now and indeed so much of the british establishment which for so long kowtow to murdoch is now prepared to get to the bottom of this and weed out those people who have been corrupted and different levels remembe

this is not the end of this scandal certainly not and indeed the labor leader ed miliband is calling for the breakup of murdoch's media empire but his calls for the . journalists north trouble is joining us now from london to give us a few thoughts of his own about what's unfolding in front of our eyes we. see the waves of the scandal to get the feet of the british pm oh now are they well the public what do you think well of the moment they are all ready to leave. kaufman and the new skin or well west for the prime minister should resign but there is a lot from the point of view of. the conservative the tories they don't feel that one has to resign but we don't know how it will go in the next few days every did you arrest on you nation. that will come in the next few days and then we'll see what the prime minister's position is but at the moment it doesn't seems likely that a promise there will be resigning or there's a general feeling isn't there that he hasn't handled it very well. well i feel that . i can see that he didn't not at the beginning and it took him a while and miliband

s so this is not the end of this scandal certainly not and indeed the labor leader ed miliband is calling for the breakup of murdoch's media empire. many thanks. live from london for us on this unfolding scandal. meanwhile we've heard account is former u.k. c.e.o. rebecca brooks facing m.p.'s on tuesday over the scandal but media analyst always says the practice of police being paid for by the media is not likely to disappear any time soon. this is a good example of what the police have been doing in the kind of murdoch years they've been using a recip in leaking they're being paid for telling people where the celebrities have been arrested so actually manipulating the rest of people is actually a practice that has become in trying now in my view as a result of the kind of bribery thing so this would hardly be out of practice today but i don't think it's going to deflect the opinion i mean there are so many m.p.'s now and indeed so much of the british establishment which for so long kowtow to murdoch is now prepared to get to the bottom of this and we'd out those people who have been corr

s if this is not the end of this scandal certainly not and indeed the labor leader ed miliband is calling for the breakup of murdoch's media empire. of correspondent laura let's talk more about this with the author journalist barry learned those on the line from paris on our to tonight barry high the rose we heard in laura's report more pressure now on the politicians especially prime minister david cameron who's faced calls to resign from two veteran opposition employees even with the last couple of hours could this scandal bring him down at the end of the day. i really doubt it but what strikes me as most about this scandal is that everyone seems to be missing the point. that the hacking of a few phone numbers is kind of interesting but the real danger of somebody like murdoch and his operation was the tremendous political power that he has in england and in the united states the power that's a bad it really carried out by through the organizations the news organizations that he owns and the fear of politicians now that fear has temporarily gone away but it's a fear that can always come

same answer over and over and over and over again but this one is really bad this is labor leader ed miliband from the u.k. today just options. put aside the rhetoric get ready to go straight to the table and stop it happening again get round to go straight to the table put aside the rhetoric and the problem al is to get around the leadership you table put aside the recruit get rather because. put aside the rhetoric and stop this kind of action where you can use drugs a rule. that was pretty bad i guess is what i'm talking going to could remember i'm going to have time with it he our person before i mean what the he'll did he do that on purpose was he trying to make a point politically we certainly we had it right it was a little bit of a longer interview and so we showed you where he just kept repeating the same lines but it was really you couldn't think of anything else to say how did people like that even get elected i mean it was literally the same talking points just rearranged and they arranged and re-arranged but you. i have to ask in this kind of a situation where is the interviewer o

ed miliband, u.s. the people have been misled about what mr. cameron new, referring -- knew, referring to a statement. are you accusing the prime minister of lying about what he was told? secondly, before this whole row, what assurances did labor give news international about not raising bskyb's bid? >> let me deal with both of those questions. on the first question, i am saying that the prime minister has a series of unanswered questions on this issue. the most important of those is the question about the specific information that was passed him by the guardian newspaper. we do not yet know the chain of events but we do know there was an admission that mr. hint -- hilton talked to the guardian about allegations, that he was a convicted criminal. there was evidence he was paying the police on behalf of news organizations. he was on trial for a further offense. i also understand that mr. hilton pass that to mr. llewellyn. these rate serious allegations. there was evidence being presented by the guardian newspaper. mr. kamen said, i had no specif

ed miliband? >> mr. just doesn't get it. [ cheers ] >> he just doesn't get it. >> i'm afraid, mr. speaker, the person who is not getting it is now the leader of the opposition. >> this unfolding firestorm was brought to light recently by hollywood actor hugh grant who secretly taped a former news of the world reporter talking about the unsavory practices he says everyone in his organization condoned and encouraged. here's hugh grant in an awkward picture with the reporter paul mcmullen. i spoke with mcmullen about who knew what. >> were people as high as rupert murdoch complicit in this? would murdoch know about these practices? people under him? >> well, people under him certainly should have done. when rebecca brooks, his right-hand woman in britain was doing my job i was looking at the same books. we were sending 4,000 pounds a week on private investigators doing these kind of practices. just extraordinary if she was the department boss who then moved up to be editor. how could you not notice expendin