americans are sort of -- it's a very, very pattronnizing view for roger ailes, the atwater, ed rollins, karl rove view. it's spin and, work did it come gloriously unstuck in the months of our travail, and it was obama -- it was -- it was specially obama that, guess what, america did want to hear about the things that mattered to the life and death of the republic. 2005 and 2006 sealed that possibility or at least i think gave obama the audacity to actually try and, hey, sentences, something which hasn't happened for a while. [applause] >> and those of us going around the country, i wasn't just the gradual sense in which we had all been sold a bill of goods about the weapons of mass destruction the relationship between the iraq war and 9/11 or the nonrelationship, but also katrina. i remember giving a lecture in norman, oklahoma, a wonderful place, and oklahoma city, too but not somewhere normally on the democratic side of the column, and i remember our driver in iowa, i was very struck by it. in not long after -- must have been towards christmas 2005, not long after katrina, and someon