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white house political director, fox business contributor and political analyst and great american, ed rollinshave you with us. happy new year. >> happy new year to you. lou: i want to start with the simple fact we're eight -- thank you, sur. we're eight weeks from the election, and we still don't have verifiable, tangible support for the crimes that everyone knows were committed; that is, defrauding other citizens who voted with fraudulent votes. we know that's the case in nevada, we know it's the case in pennsylvania and a number of other states, but we have had a devil of a time finding actual proof. why? >> well, we haven't been able to get it before the courts. unless you can make your case before the courts, there's fro reprieve here -- there's no are peeve here. i wish my friends in the house and senate on wednesday, but the truth of the matter is they're going to get rolled over. on january 20th, biden is going to be inaugust a rated as the president. it may be trump's party, but it's not trump's party in washington, d.c. today. at the end of the day, maybe we with need another party.

let's bring in our panel, fox news distributers ed rollins -- contributors ed rollins and jessica jessicaike: ed, what's your reaction to twitter going after president trump and, in effect, shutting down parler? >> i think to a certain extent this is a very unique situation. this week was a week, the destruction of the capitol and basically those vehicles were used as -- [audio difficulty] and i think to a certain expenalty you have a right and an obligation to be careful with that. i don't like any kind of censorship, and i certainly think the rules should be opened up, but i think clearly there's been a lot of spreading and misspreading of bad and dangerous information, and it's an organizational tool to create destruction against the government. mike: jessica -- i'm sorry. >> go ahead. mike: jessica, your reaction, and it's been a big issue of debate on capitol hill about how to handle these giant social media platforms. >> absolutely. and i think that conversation can continue. these are absolutely extenuating circumstances. the president of the united states of america used his twitt

former reagan white house political director and fox business political analyst, the savant himself, ed rollinsith matt gaetz in wyoming campaigning against congresswoman liz cheney because she voted to impeach the president of the united states. we haven't seen this kind of activism from the republican party in ath very long time. your reaction. >> sounds like he's going to run for governor, move out of florida and run for governor of wyoming which is an interesting state. you know, the bottom line is i think this whole impeachment and the diminishing of the republican party's been overstated. democrats wanted this president since the get go, president trump. i had to laugh as they watched the love affair going on for biden, and it'll continue by the mainstream media. if you really analyze this election, how close it was, 43,000 votes was the difference in three states, georgia, and wisconsin. if that would have been shifted, then you would have had 269-269, thehe president would have been reelected. the president won 25 states, biden won 25 states and the district of columbia. trump's margin

. >> your next guest, ed rollins, was the first political director. >> where were you? >> i started off in intergovernmental and public liaison. >> right. >> and i did that the first term, and then i left the white house when baker left. but i came back the last two years at political director and intergovernmental affairs. and that was during iran contra. i think they wanted maybe some people that had been there. >> some stability. >> some stability, so i tried to do that. >> yeah. >> so, we finished up pretty strong. reagan finishes his second term as one of the most popular presidents. >> yes, yeah. some polls had him with approval rating of 76%. >> you know, that -- >> and his approval, ironically, under 30 voters was higher than the rest of the population. >> that is true. believe it or not the plurality of youngest voters i think was under 25 considering themselves republicans. >> as a result -- >> as a result -- >> -- of the reagan presidency. >> -- of the reagan presidency. >> yeah. >> that's one of the few times that's ever happened. i went around the country w