nsa leaker ed snowden is in russia.e got off a plane in moscow a couple of hours ago, has not been seen since by reporters staking out the scene there and we don't know if he's headed to another country's embassy, but we will stay on this story and return to it in just a few moments. >>> but first, paula deen was one of the food network stars until a lawsuit by a former manager of her georgia restaurant accused her of using racial slurs. deen acknowledged using the n word a long time ago. the celebrity chef agreed to arpts questions on the "today" show where she's made numerous appearances, but on friday she was a no-show. >> at one point she asked to speak to me. i spoke to her late afternoon on the phone yesterday and we talked about the fact that it would be an open and candid discussion, no holds barred, all questions within the bounds of what we would talk b her people, per publicity people have told us that she's exhausted and will not be showing up. >> hours later deen posted a video in which she said she was sor

complain all you want about it, but it is how we caught osama bin laden. >>> tonight, nsa leaker ed snowden is holed up in a secret location in hong kong. that is according to today's south china morning post, which got the first interview with snowden since he revealed his identity to "the guardian." snowden said compared to the unidentified documents the nsa had been hacking computers on the mainland since 2006, he has been seeking refuge. he says my intention is to ask the courts and the people of hong kong to decide my fate. here is what the father of ed snowden's girlfriend told reporters. >> he has always had strong convictions of right and wrong. and it kind of makes sense, but -- >> today, members of the senate appropriations committee asked the nsa director why an i. t. specialist who dropped out of high school had a top secret security clearance. >> i'm trying to look at the resume background for this individual who had access to this highly classified information at such a young age with a limited educational and work experience, part of it as a security guard. and ask you if you

they believe, have the ability to give him. >> shepard: but russia insists it has no control over ed snowden. >> a disengine white house argument being made by president putin. he says snowden is in the transit zone of the airport. in moscow. the transit zone, he says, is not technically russian territory. the answer to that according to many expertses that is complete new orleans and no panger would be only allowed to stay in the transit zone for a maximum 24 hours. but that is vladimir putin's position, and he is not changing. listen. >> translator: he has not crossed the state's border and therefore does not need a vice vees a, and any accusations against roche are raving and rubbish. he is in the transit hall, a transit passenger out. special services have never worked with mr. snowden and aren't working with him today. >> most experts say it is very hard to believe, as putin asserts the security services of russia have not spoken to edward snowden. >> if he leaked russian secrets, they'd figure it out. >> day two of the zimmermansome trial. and it's moving along at lightning pace. today

. >> shepard: first from fox this monday night, the feds know where ed snowden is. that's what a justice department official is telling fox news. but that official will not tell us where snowden is. the former national security agency contractor admits he did leak classified documents. he did expose secret government surveillance programs. he used to work at an nsa office in hawaii. he says he took off for hong kong last month. then this weekend he reportedly left hong kong for moscow. even though the u.s. had asked hong kong to arrest him. we're told there is a flurry of activity behind the scenes. top u.s. officials apparently pressuring moscow to hand over the fugitive and threatening russia with some of the retaliation if that demand is not met. more on that in just a moment. an official at the russian airline says ed snowden booked a flight today from moscow to havana. right now that plane has just landed in cuba. another air flight official told reuters snowden's next stop was venezuela. and ecuador's foreign minister says ed snowden applied for asylum in that

pulled his passport, at least a couple days ago. >> the new report that ed snowden deliberately targetedosses at the contractor. >> the director of national intelligence james clapper confirm that i go believe edward snowden has more documents and plans more leaks. a former intelligence official saying it's believed the records snowden took are volumous and extend well beyond the classified material held by the nsa. now snowden's former employer would comment on the report that claims the 30-year-old specifically targeted that systems administrator job to steal classified information. today we asked julian assange on that conference call whether snowden had been debriefed by the russians and chinese and he says he has not talked to either of them, offering them any intelligence. >> with us now gordonen chang, author of the book, the coming collapse of china. the accusation near this chinese newspaper is that he didn't go to this contractor job at boost allen and then realize what's going on, i have to expose. i he wanted to expose it so he got a job where he could. >> i wouldn't be surpr

he said ed snowden told him that he could no longer have the story exclusively 1 the "washington post" wasn't agree to publish all the documents he turned over. were you aware snowden was dealing with bart gelman at the same time he was dealing with you? >> i was. mr. snowden told me he thought it was a good thing to have another media outlet, especially one at the heart of washington, invested in these leaks, namely "the washington post." he told me bart was working on one of the stories, which was the prison story and that turned out to be true and we were going to work on all the others. if we wanted to, we could work on the prison story as well but i think it is significant that the prison story in particular was published by bart gelman, a two-time pulitzer prize winner and vetted by the "washington post" editors as well as the editors at "the guardian" and me as well and the source did want the "washington post" involved in that story. >> that is e-mails, facebook postings and things like that and there was some pushback because the companies said they hadn't fully cooperated bu

officials in hong kong say they let ed snowden get on a plane this weekend because the u.s. request to arrest him did not fully comply with hong kong law. the feds deny that ecuador's foreign minister says his government is considering snowden's application for asylum and tonight the russians say snowden is a free man who can go and do whatever he wants. "the fox report's" correspondent jonathan hunt is in our newsroom in new york. and for the moment, at least, it sounds like vladimir putin's position on this matter is unwavering. >> unwavering, uncompromising and, according to a will the of experts, shep, completely disingenuous. those experts say that president putin's contention that mr. snowden is not technically on russian soil because he is in a transit zone of the airport there in moscow is basically complete nonsense. putin, of course, has never been one to care much what others think and he says russia has no reason to arrest snowden or to hand him over. listen. >> as for extradition there was no possibility. we can hand over foreign citizens to countries with which

ed snowden is in the airport at russia. we're talking about a serious attack on information that we ought to have to be in a democracy. >> john: like many, i was confused by the charge of espionage since as you point out, sir mr. snowden was working for any other country. he wasn't getting paid for it. he's very much a leaker and so, i guess my question to you is do you acknowledge that he broke the law? >> well, he -- under american law, yes, what he did was he had a security clearance and then he signed a paper that said he wouldn't reveal that and there are laws against revealing secure documents. on the other hand, when you're a whistle-blower, the law is also -- and people have argued this and been acquitted based on this, when you demonstrate government criminality or deceit that that is above that particular lawyer breaking and you're a whistle-blower and you're protected. one of the reasons ed snowden is entitled to asylum is because asylum actually overcomes the claim that he broke the law. you're given asylum for

said that whatever happens to ed snowden will be determined by the department of justice. a poll on asking a "usa today" pew research poll today asked if snowden should be criminally prosecuted. 54% of respondents said yes. 38% say no. that said, i think because of the public -- the public profile that ed snowden has created for himself, this is not an open and shut case of traitor, not traitor. and you also have the weird alignment of dick cheney saying that he's a traitor aligned with some members of the left who also say he's gone against our laws and should be prosecuted as such. >> the politics are fascinating. it's splitting in all sorts of different ways. but it seems pretty obvious on the face of it that this man broke the law. as a contractor he's in the national security intelligence system. he's bound by very strict laws. others clearly broken them. and if the reports out of china are true, out of the "south china morning post," he's been handing some of those secrets to a foreign government. you know, i don't know how his defense lawyers could ever stand that up

ed snowden is now hiding in hong kong, and the major newspaper, backed by china's communist regime, is hold on to edç snowden. this communist friendly paper wants to use his intelligence for all it's worth. >> yes. in essence, shep, saying milk him, get his information, and then send him back to the united states because whatever secrets he has could be vital to colony's national interest. this comes on the heels of ed snowden saying the united states has been spying on chinas and hong kong's computers now for years. the editorial reads in part, maybe he has more evidence. the chinese government should let him speak out and according to whether the information is public, use it as evidence to negotiate with the united states openly or in private. the editorial galls the united states hypocrites and ruthless, no regard for others. we should note the chinese newspaper is known for its antiamerican editorials in the past. >> shepard: snowden is getting popular in hong kong. >> in some areas he is getting hero status. there's a site, the chinese equivalent of twitter, and people have been

and said that organization is working with ed snowden. ve any firm details about where snowden is going. we shouldn't focus on extradition treaties. a country can have an extradition treaty and claim a political exception for snowden. all of this talk about treaties is more complicated than that. >> bill, your thoughts? >> i spoke with an intelligence official and said what is up with this? there are a million flights from hong kong to ecuador or venezuela or iceland or the other places he wants to go. why moscow? the guy said, look, think about it. there may be a warrant out for this guy. we asked in tee rpol to look out for this guy. it is a russian government-controlled airline. it would not presumably serve an arrest warrant. they are taking british airways and they may do that. the russian government is basically colluding with the chinese government with wherever he is going to end up to avoid bringing this guy to justice. >> we should point out that wikileaks is very much involved in this. they say there are lawyers on the plane wit

ed snowden says the u.s. is waging cyber war on china, has been for years and he can prove it. edward snowden reportedly claims the u.s. has been hacking chinese computers for years. now he says he is ready to face justice in hong kong. >> i think the u.s. government will go after him. >> shepard: and lawmakers get a chance to question the head of the nsa. >> the nsa obtained phone records of millions of innocent americans with no connection to terrorism. >> if dozen of terrorist events that these are helped prevent. >> shepard: plus, the little girl who won her fight for an adult lung transplant finally gets the surgery that could save her life. but first from fox this wednesday night, the nsa leaker has apparently resurfaced. somewhere in hong kong ed snowden reportedly spoke with the south china morning post newspaper today and claims the united states has been hacking china's computers for years. he says the u.s. government has tens of thousands of spy operations going on around the world right now, 61,000 to be exact. and just hours after the new snowden interview popped u

this is ed snowden talking about the ed snowden in the future. >> presumably he has had hundreds of chats in real life and on the phone. cherry picking these few conversations isn't a fairway to portray him. i don't care about ed snowden's fascination with anime his girlfriend in at the end of the day it's about his spying. >> michael: i hear you say those things, and in an ideal world we will say who cares who the merger is, look at what he brought us, but journalism does focus on characters as well. where does the responsibility of a journalist lie? to ignore who ed snowden is, and he's inviting us on this worldwide tour in a way. it's one that he presumably doesn't really want to take but we're following it. where does the role of the journalist to come in there? >> for the public interest. that's it. a lot of folks are motivated by page view clicks, some type of notoriety. but the only responsibility is for the public to shed light on government, private sector abuses and to do things that expose corruption or misuse of power. that's the story. and it shouldn't be ed snowden his anime

and please note that none of the three charges against ed snowden is treason. think the justice department would just decide to go easy on snowden and not charge him with treason if they could? that very young congressman you just heard spouting off mindlessly about treason is sadly a very good relationship in congress for a country which is so ignorant of the constitution. a country in which for many, if not most, feelings are more important than facts. for the speaker of the house and the young congressman and half the people on twitter, if it feels like treason, it must be treason. it would never occur to them to check what the constitution says about treason, because they do not know that it is the constitution and the constitution alone that defines treason. so call ed snowden what you will, but if you call him a traitor, if you say he is guilty of treason, you're not really labelling him, you're labelling yourself, you're letting us know that for you, facts don't matter. you're letting us know that for you, you get to define treason any way you want, even

think about it this entire surveillance system they've set up they couldn't stop ed snowden and they couldn't even figure out what to do once he revealed the secrets and they couldn't even figure out once once he was going to leave hong kong what was going on this is the system they set up the supposedly protect us from quote terrorism well they can't even get their own their own people who work for them protected any borowitz did a satirical piece about a phony press conference held by general alexander saying we were so busy spying on the three hundred plus a million americans that we didn't have time to notice our own spies and that they were downloading things on a thumb drives. but you know on a more serious note what is wiki leaks role in all this what role are they playing and how much support in architecture are they giving you know the center for constitutional rights of myself represent with at least in june a songe want to be clear we don't represent snowden wiki leaks has publicly said they have given certain kinds of support to snowden so they've given advice on diplomac

ed snowden. ed snowden. >> charged by the u.s. government with espionage -- >> single-handedly deciding to expose programs -- >> snow snowden is on the move. >> he was on the flight. some flight. >> from russia with no love. >> how did this guy get away? >> putin always seems almost eager to put a finger in the eye of the united states. >> he was not on board. >> he may head to cuba later today. >> at least we don't believe he was on board. >> his final destination could still be ecuador, where he has requested asylum. >> from one tyrannical government to another. >> i think we should focus on what edward snowden has given to the world. >> a lot of folks were calling him a hero. >> if he really believes he did something good he should get on a plane, come back, and face the consequences. >> he might actually be trading intelligence with some of these countries. >> i want to get him caught and brought back for trial. >> until then snowden remains at large. >> how did this guy get away? >> in a kind of fugitive purgatory. >> floor f

so if ed snowden even has a visa, it would, in theory, expire today. russian president vladimir putin says he hopes he will not have to deal with the snowden showdown much longer. because, as putin put it, quote: it's like shearing a piglet, too much squealing. too little wool. catherine herridge live in d.c. tonight. wow. >>' well, shep, if that transit visa expires tonight snowden will need a tourist visa. the russian embassy here in washington says you have to apply for these visas before you get to moscow. you can't pick them up at arrival at that airport. after snowden was a no show on monday flight from cuba. there are current noe current reservations for him. and snowden's contacts with the chinese and russian governments travel limbo could be the difference between the original espionage charges and higher crimes. >> the end result is probably a life sentence, potential on either charge. but if there is treason charge it, carries a death sentence as well. it's actually a constitutional crime, too. >> the state department today answering question

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. >> ed snowden denied offering u.s. secrets to china in return for asylum there.more that the nsa leaker says, the stronger the feeling in washington that he's become crusader against his old agency and the american government. and now the president who snowden thought would change the nsa but didn't. >> president obama went to the summit hoping for a trade deal to end the civil war in syria. but mr. obama is being dogged by the revelation that he is presiding over vast programs. today the disclosure that in 2009 at two london summit u.s. teams helped intercept the leader's private communication. that's the latest bom shell dropped by ed snowden who leaked nsa phone and internet programs and then said the u.s. is hacking into chinese computers and today talked about 2009 summit intercept. reducing the 29-year-old's credibility in the minds of many. >> the more he lashes out, the more he looks like something angry at the united states and wants to hurt the united states as opposed to a whistle blower. >> on a web chat he claims what are the nakedly aggressively cri

and reaction from a shocking exclusive interview with the father of the nsa whistleblower ed snowden. he is fired up and what he says will shock you. "cashin' in" blowing the whistle on big brother right now. >> eric: i'm eric boling. in a moment we'll explore the latest with "cashin' in" crew and joining us will be colonel alan west. joining me my very good friend and fox news contributor, sarah palin. governor, welcome. we obviously can't trust the irs. they proved that by targeting conservatives and now the agency is giving their union employees $70 million paid for by the temperature. it can't be sitting well with you? >> no, it certainly doesn't. i think in orwellian government be so generously rewarded. it's more reason to distrust our federal government and nonsense that is going in washington, d.c.. >> eric: that is the overriding theme of this show. can we trust them. governor, can we trust them? >> well, can i trust our federal government? they are catholic, does the pope live in the woods? no, i don't trust our federal government. the $17 trillion question. when you have a

from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrong doer. >> by now you know that is ed snowdenho we believe is currently in moscow. joining me now, jill dougherty, john king, joe johns, dana bash. we want to look at a map of all the possible places it's speculated snowden might go. from russia to iceland, he cecu, venezuela. >> let's start with he's in moscow, but he may not have a russian visa. nobody really knows the whole story, but from russian news agency says he's still at the airport or at an airport hotel. let's call it that. where he would rest and then go on to his next location. there were the reports about the diplomatic car from the ecuadorian embassy. nobody really knows precisely could he be on that. i think not if he didn't have a via. the russians will be careful i think to adhere to the law even though the big picture is this guy's getting away. so where could he go? number one, we've been talking about iceland. iceland possible, but feels like old news to me. i think it's this next issuesus three countries in latin america. they are united by hugo chavez. he'

and the latest ed snowden interview.d i say -- justice, but to reveal criminality, and then in the same breath he says i'm going to stay here until i have to leave. i have faith in hk's and hong kong's rule of law. >> i have no problem with him making apple products at some point in the future. >> stephanie: exactly. >> this whole hero complex. this is not to poo-poo whistleblowers. i think the fact that somebody can come forward in the corporate world, expose criminal wrongdoing and not -- >> stephanie: huh oh. we lost him. dexter has -- >> i'm reading an article by tom hartman who is wondering who the guardian's source is for all of this stuff. he is betting on wikileaks, and exposing the nsa could be the pay back for the trial of bradley manning, which started this week. >> stephanie: wow. a lot of snausages this week. he said i'm neither a traitor, nor a hero i'm an american. adding that he is proud to be an american. okay. you are an american that is leaking -- i mean this is the largest leak in our history -- >> [

who is ed snowden. >> my name is ed snowden, i am 29 years old. i book for booze allen hamilton as infrastructure analyst for nsa in hawaii. any analyst any time can target anyone, any selector. where they will be picked up, the authorities they're empowered with, not all analysts can target everything. i sitting at my desk have the authorities to wire tap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if i had a personal e-mail. >> what made him decide to leak state secrets? here is his explanation. listen carefully. >> even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded and the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders of magnitude to where it is getting to the point you don't have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion for somebody, even by a wrong call. then they can use the system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you discussed something with, and attack you on that ba

some say ed snowden is an isolated case.illion americans that have his same security access clearance. some are fine surrendering some liberties, because they trust the government to do what's right. i look what the irs and justice department has done and i don't feel right. some say holding phone records is different than tapping phones. i say holding phone records is the step before you start tapping phones. some say what's the big deal of those records at a bureaucrat's desk. keep your damn eyes off them. some believe we're making a big deal out of a kid that wants attention. i say when the chinese and russians want to talk to him, he has my attention. it is easy to step back calmly, say no big deal, like it was easy at first to say the irs was targeting just a few conservative groups and say what's the big deal, until we found out it was more than a few groups, then not just groups, then individual donors, then lots of donors, then very big deal. just like i think it is a big deal when an agency responsible for policing

look, ed snowden goes to first china and then to russia. the president doesn't talk to president xi or talk to president putin. now, this is a very sensitive and serious allegation of espionage against ed snowden. no question about it. in my humble pin, borders on treason and probably will end up with treason because he took four computers with him loaded with data, very sensitive classified data. the president made that flippant remark you played at the introduction, that he shouldn't have to call him. and then he later followed that up with he wasn't going to launch fighters for a hacker. snowden is more than a hacker. he was indicted, at least, for espionage and then potentially treason. he is giving the family jewels away. and this is what is so disturbing, because there are a host of other incidents that have also come along. benghazi. need i say anymore. you go and look at syria. we're leading from behind. the 100,000 casualties, killed in action, and we haven't done anything because we didn't get involved, and now we're getting invol

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that's when he mentioned ed snowden the man who blew the lid on the? >> sa surveillance tactics.e passenger who saw it all. >> it was up there. he had information relating to ed snowden and he was being taken back to some safe house some place never to be seen again. >> passengers on the flighted tackled the guy and fbi removed him from the plane when it landed as scheduled in new jersey. now, of course, it's possible the man is simply mentally disturbed but it's worth pointing out the plane was flying from newark new jersey from hong kong the very city where ed snowden reported solid in hiding. trace gallagher is live with the latest. what more do we know about this guy? >> well, jon, the passengers say he is in his mid 30's and is he american and he was about nine or 10 hours into this 15-hour flight that he began pacing and screaming again and again. he said that he wanted the flight to be diverted to canada because he feared the fbi, the cia. he also gave what he claimed was his name, his mom's name, his birth date and social security number. claiming that he worked for the u

and the attorney general eric holder promised the leaker ed snowden will face charges.hiding in hong kong. and police in miami, florida say two dozen people ended up in hot after the outdoor deck of the sports bar shuckers collapsed during the nba finals game last night. >>> and on this day in 1777, our nation got its first flag when the continental congress adopted the stars and stripes. 13 red and white stripes representing the colony that's declared independence from great britain. the founding fathers based it on the grand union flag. congress added a circle of stars on a blue field symbolizing what it called a new constellation. as more states entered the union, the number of stars grew. the nation celebrated the first flag day marking 100 years since the creation of the stars and stripes. decades later, congress made flag day a national day of observance and old glory was born 236 years ago today. happy flag day. now you know the news for this friday, june 14th, 2013. i'm shepard smith. i'm be back on monday. happy father's day, especially mine. i'll hit you up on

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. >> we will air interview with nsa whistleblower ed snowden and then speak to the garden columnist glenn greenwald, and joined by another whistleblower, william binney. he spent almost 40 years at the agency but resigned after september 11 over growing domestic surveillance. all of that and more coming up for i. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. a former cia employee working as a contractor for the national security agency has come aboard as the source behind one of the biggest leaks in u.s. history. edward snowden, a former cia technical assistant now working with the nsa through the military firm booz allen hamilton, revealed his identity in an interview with the guardian of london. snowden's said he exposed top- secret nsa surveillance programs to alert americans of expansive government spying on innocents. >> the public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong, and i am willing to go on the record to defend the authenticity of them and say, i did not change these, did not modify the story. this is the tr

us up with a big stick we don't care about your trade preferences so it gives me more hope that ed snowden may be able to make it to ecuador the u.s. says it's still expects moscow to help facilitate getting him extradited to be given to the u.s. to think that's likely to happen. you know president putin was very clear that they don't plan to expel him to the united states or render him early because there's no legal process for really doing it it's not an extradition was no treaty that there's an asylum application and that would seem to trump any and he rendition or in the extradition of ed snowden and president putin was very clear we consider this person to be revealing important information about human rights and while we don't necessarily and so in russia want him right now or someone else's problem we are not willing to turn them over to the united states who seem to be some support in that statement for and snow. and we've heard that germany has been expressing discontent after it learned it was one of the most heavily surveilled countries under this prism program about why have th

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martha: ed snowden said he planned this whole thing all along. so what is in the other documents that he has? what many the next shoe to drop in this embarrassing international saga. how will it track our enemies to what we are doing? bill: a mystery surrounding a journalist's violent death. a chilling message he sent hours before the high-speed crash that took his life and why that's fueling conspiracy theoriesd today. the citi simplicity card is the only card that never has late fees, a penalty rate, or an annual fee. ever. go to citi.com/simplicity to apply. ever. every day we're working to and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. our commitment has never been stronger. bill: a bit more intrigue regarding a journalist's tragic death. he sent an e-mail to friends

if they are not going to scramble jets on september 11 or for ed snowden. when i heard the president say that i would like to assume on one level maybe snowden isn't that valuable. we know that's likely not the case. when she said i shouldn't have to call putin, he's right. he supposedly hit the reset button. putin should be able to say, here you go. we have good relations now. >> should he scramble jets and invade china and russia? what are we talking about? >> he demeaned the process saying i'm not going to scramble jets for a 29-year-old hacker. i guess it's not that important to you. >> it's taken to a level of hysteria. i have asked people, do you want us to invade or what? >> why didn't he say, we are working on it? i'm on top of it. when we have more information we'll provide it for you. he tried to downplay. they said it was one of the worst hacking situations or reveal -- secret information. i understand why president obama is trying to downplay it, but there is a better way he could have said it today. why are we trying to help you solve this situa

tonight on fbn, what they are saying about ed snowden's life on the run. it is an exclusive interview you can catch tonight at 8:00 p.m. you don't get it? get it. or i will go to your house. >>> a big stock market rally that was on weak economic news. gdd coming in a lot lower than we thought, 1.8% versus a prior read at 2 pone 4%. 2.4%. they said that's the market. bad news or good news? >> i said it before and will say it again. ben bernanke was not definitive in his statement. he made some definitive statements, but they were qualified as to whether he will stop printing money. he basically said if the economy doesn't improve, i am going to keep printing. by the way, his replacement because he will probably be replaced -- >> do you think he will serve out the term? >> i think he will serve to the end of the year. but his replacement will be janet young who is more of a money printer than he is. >> so $85 billion is a lot more. >> if we keep having 1.8% gdp prints which means the economy is barely growing if you think about it. corporate profits could be

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the father of the fugitive surveillance leaker ed snowden says he is confident his son could soon return to the united states but there's a huge catch. >> president obama spoke about possibly visiting the civil rights icon nelson mandela, who remains in critical condition in a south african hospital. we'll explain why activists are demanding obama get out of south africa. all ahead unless breaking news changes everything on "studio b." >> first from fox at 3:00, another key witness for the prosecution in the george zimmerman murder trial, painting a vivid picture of the violence suffered just moments before the shooting that killed trayvon martin, and he said that one person was on top of the other, and that he could see the colors of their clothing. >> the color of clothing on top, what could you see? >> it was dark. >> how about the color of clothing at the bottom? >> i believe it was a light white or red color. >> so that means the teenager, trayvon martin, wearing that dark clothing, he would have been on top of the neighborhood watchman, zimmerman. but that eye witness still casts s

talked to the lawyer for wikileaks in the united states who says that organization is working with ed snowden he said that we should not focus on tradition treateds because you can have a treaty and claim a political exception for snowden so this talk about extradition treaty is more complicated than that. >>chris: bill? >> former intelligence official this morning said, look, there are a million flights in hong kong to ecuador or venezuela or iceland or the other places, why now? the guy said, look, interpol may have a warrant out if this guy and we have asked presumably interpol to watch out no this guy traveling. the airline as much as anything else, and the russian airline, it seems the russian government is colluding with the chinese government to avoid bring this guy to justice. >>chris: and wikileaks is involved and though say they have lawyers on the plane but wikileaks supports the organization run by julian assange that leaked thousands and thousands of documents they got from manning and supposedly there are diplomats according to wikileaks from another unnamed country, but you do