i've got eddie glaude joining me.was asking you and i think you couldn't hear me, but i was asking you about the protests that took place at the michigan state house the other day. they were not -- they were not things that just happened. it wasn't just a bunch of people who decided that governor gretchen whitmer was a criminal and should be locked up. they actually used the chant lock her up, which was used about hillary clinton. they gathered in defiance of a stay at home order. there were security people there begging them not to get out of their cars and gather. who knows whether any of them were sick or making other people sick. but this was funned ded by conservative groups and encouraged by the president in tweets in which he said liberate virginia, tweets which some people think might incite violence. this thing had echoes of the tea party, except the tea party had some economic arguments that were actually worth arguing about. this is just nonsense. >> right, and i think it's important for us to be deeply and

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joining us now, david brooks, a "new york times" columnist and eddie glaude, chairman for the centerare someone i think of who likes to think and talk and write about america and who we are. would you describe us as a failed state right now? >> i covered failed states around the world. if we were a failed state there would be massive rioting, bribery. we have a couple of problems. we -- the second is we're too stupid to learn from the mistakes of others. the asians are handling this reasonably well because they went through it and botched it twice with h1n1 and sars and they figured out how to do it. we figured it wouldn't affect us and didn't learn from their mistakes. we're a failed society. this hits us when we have low levels of social trust, suicide was spiking and depression rates were already rising three times over a generation and so the basic fragments of society are sort of in dissolution and they get whacked by something that makes everything that people are suffering from just far worse. >> but is that because we are socio economically so disconnected? think about all th

. >>> up next, princeton university's eddy glaude jr.fter this pandemic passes. >> plus, the federal government took the lead on the economic crisis, but why is the president leaving it to the states to handle the health crisis? as we go to break, a couple touching tributes from over the weekend. here's video of the u.s. air force thunderbirds performing a demonstration over las vegas yesterday. the flight that took them over 16 hospitals was on the front lines of those on the pandemic. >> in brazil, the christ the radimer statue was illuminated to look like a doctor on easter sunday in a tribute to frontline health care workers battling coronavirus worldwidworldwide. the flags of several hard hit countries were also projected onto the monument that overlooks rio de janeiro. we'll be back with much more "morning joe." as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchumal- cut. liberty biberty- cut. we'll dub it. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what y

eddie glaude, doesn't matter how many seniors he's doing, as long as his allies in the media -- and i80-year-old is not as tragic as the death of a 30-year-old." that's the trump supporter mindset out there among a lot of trump's biggest supporters. forget about passing moral judgment on somebody who is basically talking about u euthanasia. forget about that. talk about the political impact of senior citizens who supported donald trump, who are now hearing all of his allies saying, or a lot of his allies saying, the death of a senior citizen is just not as tragic as the death of somebody who is younger. it is not going to help in the polls. >> not at all, joe. in some ways, those sorts of utterances -- not in some ways, but they are, clearly, an assessment to the value of older folks, right? they're declaring who they value, what they value, right? let's be clear, the 61,000 deaths, they're not ababstract, right? they're real people. my best friend lost his mother-in-law. his wife, wilna, had to say good-bye to her mother by facetifac facetime, as her mother was behind a mask, right?