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jelani and eddie glaude, and we welcome senior correspondent, and msnbc contributor.o do this tonight, because i want to get smarter about it. oftentimes, people that look and sound like me, say juneteenth, i know it's important. but what is it? and some times, people are free to ask, or they say it's a black thing. explain it. >> well, i think juneteenth represents two things at once,? right one, it gives us the complicated history of freedom in the country. as you rightly note, these are formerly enslaved people in texas, in galveston texas, who found out that their free two years late. they found out they free just a few months after robert easily surrenders. just a few months before the ratification of the 13th amendment. and so, we get a sense that freedom is not an end, it's a practice. so we can talk a little bit more about that. so even with the emancipation proclamation of 96, three even with the end of slavery 1965, we still don't get, and simply articulated way in ocean of freedom, which is still fighting for that freedom,. so that's one sense of juneteenth

also here, eddie glaude, chair of the department of african american studies at princeton university,the table, tim o'brien, senior columnist for bloomberg opinion. eddie, i thought this speech from president obama was -- i hate to use this with president obama's speeches because they're all important and deliberate, but it had a sort of arm touching to his convention speech where i had never seen him so shaken about what was on the line in the general election in 2020 and this speech, a hand ahead to the future, what we do next determines everything, determines -- you and i talk a lot about the state of our democracy. it feels like it's ailing in a lot of ways. but what we do right now will determine if we even continue to live in one. that's president obama's point. >> i think he's absolutely right. and i think he underlined the crisis we face, and you know, what's interesting, nicole, is that we oftentimes look at the threats, the dangers to liberal democracy, and i think what's really important for us to try to wrap our minds around are what are the problems within liberal democra

attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general and our dear friend professor eddie glaude, chair of the department of african american studies at princeton university and msnbc contributor, who's brand-new podcast, history is us, an audio documentary that looks at our past who try to make sense of the present and future through the lens of race and history. we've got an all-star lineup on this friday night. mr. litman, i turn to you first. these hearings were major, what was your biggest take away? >> i guess two things. with both the big lie and the hang mike pence, we had seen it in broad strokes but in vivid detail that made clear that, in each case, both on the facts of the big lie and a legal position underpinning the hang mike pence, it wasn't farfetched, a sort of 2% thing. there was nothing -- zero, zip -- there never was. so, it was completely out of whole cloth. it was brazen and ruthless. that's point 1. point 2 is, in both these cases -- and i think we are going to see two more next week -- we came pretty close. there were alternate universes where mike pence is torn

insight and analysis are, amy walter, editor and chief and publisher of "the cook political report", eddie glaude jr. of princeton university. leigh ann caldwell of the "washington post" and david french, senior editor of "the dispatch." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. never before in this country's history have we witnessed a president accused of a criminal conspiracy to take down the democracy. but that's exactly what we saw at thursday's january 6th opening hearing where former president trump was placed at the center of the effort to both overturn the election and inspire the riot at the capitol. we even heard of testimony that mr. trump suggested rioters were right to demand vice president pence be hanged simply for certifying the election results. the committee has begun to show its evidence but does the country have the will or ability to hold donald trump accountable in the wake of all of this evidence? if this were happening in anothe

let's bring in my saturday night panel, eddie glaude jr., is the chairman of african studies at princeton university, norman ornstein is a scholar at the -- and tara setmayer is a senior adviser to the lincoln project and a former gop communications director. it is good to have all three of you with us. eddie, i'd like to start with you. will these protests move the needle on gun legislation? give me the realistic sense, not your optimistic one? >> i am not sure, given the history of congress, given -- not bipartisan, but bipartisan nature, it would be reasonable for us to conclude that nothing will happen on this. i think it is really important for this purpose to take place today because against a backdrop of what we are witnessing with the jet six committee, commissioner hearing, we have to be mindful of what happened in buffalo, will happen in uvalde, we have been across the country daily. this keeps in the front mind, the fact that we are experiencing this crisis with regard to gun violence across the country, whether it will translate, amen, into serious legislation, i doubt it. at

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eddie glaude, we showed reagan national before we came in.publican party. there is a quote to show how far this party has moved on say an issue of immigration. this is reagan's farewell speech. while other countries cling to the stale past, here in america we breathe life into dreams. we create the future and the world follows us into tomorrow. he's talking about immigration, here. thanks to each wave of new arrivals to this land of opportunity, we're a nation forever young. forever bursting with energy and new ideas and always on the cutting-edge, always leading the world to the next frontier, this is vital to our future as a nation. if we ever close the door to new americans our leaders shirp in the world would soon be lost. that is not something that reagan said like five and a half years into his presidency to a specific audience. that was reagan's farewell address. underlining it. eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex. and reagan warns about not welcoming migrants to this country because when he said we stopped welcomin

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