also, eddie gloud junor also an msnbc contributor and good morning to you, gentlemen. it's a somber morning. we're not quite at that 100,000 number, but round numbers make us visit things. also it's memorial day where we're thinking about soldiers in loss time. eddie, what's the issue here? we're not -- we may be close to the peak, which means we are going to lose a lot more people on the way down from this peak and the president does seem to have lost focus on this issue. >> well, you remember dr. fauci a few months ago telling us if we did everything right we could see between 100,000 and 240,000 dead. and here we are on the precipice of 100,000 souls gone, and we are opening up our economy. what we see, i think, ali, is that a kind of greed and selfishness is already determining how we move in this country, and we also see, i think, that for donald trump there are folks who are disposable. folks whose lives don't really come into view. he lacks a sense of sympathy and empathy for those who are not in his immediate per viurviepurvie. i think end of the day and i shou

university and author of "begin again: james baldwin's america and its urgent lessons for our own," eddie gloudd editor for the "washington post," ruth marcus. both are msnbc contributors. good to see you both this morning. ruth, let me start with you. ruth, there have been reports that the president was made clear of this polling, and in fact, he has sort of a good set of polls and a bad set of polls, and his people told him about the bad set of polls and he lost it on his own people, who are now apparently just showing him the good sets of polls. >> well, the only right polls, according to president trump, are the ones that show him winning. and we know this and we've seen it before. but the degree of his reported explosion with his campaign manager, brad pasquale -- i love the reports in my own newspaper talk about him having threatened to sue his campaign manager. you know, candidates in trouble change their staffs, but the candidate, and this one in particular, needs to change his own behavior. >> eddie, what do you make of this? joe biden has been largely in sight. he's not doing a ton of