because you just met, and you -- we have a fellow at home we called whispering eddie smith. >> why did you call him that? >> because he whispered. >> thank you. >> they would spread rumors as quickly as you could spread a disease and they frequently did, what they spread was a disease. as we were getting ready for the fight for the control of the state committee. we had mayor listen of summerville which was our champion and they had onions burks which was the champion of the mccormicks, and eddie mccormick's father was on the state committee. >> he was the brother of the state majority leader? >> yes, and he was as different as a speaker as you could make. he was course and rough and tough and i remember when his son was withdrawing from a campaign for the attorney generalship or something of that nature and the father stood in the middle of the i'll in the mechanics hall yelling sit down, that's a stupid thing to do. so he was not what you would call the wise counselor that you would think is in the back of a lot of these things. but, we got through this fight and everybody was convin