this was the fbi time of j edgar hoover.story, talk about how you got involved, and that how you got involved with the weather underground, became the leader of weather underground. bernadine: it is astonishing, what can i say, there is no such thing as replacing angela davis on any list, anything. she is a comrade, colleagues, sister, and friend. her pointing out that we didn't have the language in 1969, 19 70's, not just about language, but the connective tissue of the word intersectionality, so you didn't have to choose between being a woman and being against the war in vietnam, that was insane, but the politics often made that true on the ground. her whole life, her whole career making that manifest form black lives matter, the activists of today, it is quite dramatic. you can see their wisdom, their ability to fight for unity, at the same time as they have disagreements and move in different ways. i am filled with admiration for this generation of activists, in awe. trying to tag along and keep up with them on the stree

it started with corruption with j edgar hoover, who used his power to control jfk and every other president. the problem is they could not control trump, that is where they are having their problems. the fbi is as corrupt today as it was when it began. it is music to my ears when they say the -- defunded the fbi. it is useless and a danger to the country. thank you, hope you'll have a great day. host: the next caller is timothy and ohio, on the republican line. caller: good morning. first of all, i think president trump has done a fine job with all of the battles he has had to fight. i respect the first lady her speech i watched on television the other day. i realize something. that man has been ripped up one side and down the other for trying to bring the world back to americans. it is a hard job to go back through all the presidencies and everything. that is part of the reason why he took document to secure them, because he knew they'd be safe at his home. whatever else is going on, i have no political involvement. as i see things now, i am going to steer toward the republican party. if m

the murder of senator robert kennedy, the new leader of john edgar hoover, is connected, among others, with the murder of his brother john fitzgerald kennedy, they are connected by the fact that when kennedy was elected president of the united states of america in the sixtieth year, he appointed his brother robert as secretary of justice, and the two of them began to direct american order. in the legal field, robert was engaged in a very tough cleansing policy the remaining criminal elements, and including came into conflict with the powerful chief of the federal bureau of investigation, the governor , robert's activities as president of the united states could lead to a revision of the existing course of the government. the reactionaries, which included games, did not want this. as a result, the murder that stirred up everything in america was blamed on a simple arab, who was simply used, and then almost sent to the electric chair. let's look at the first decree that was cancelled. vice president lyndon johnson on the same day that killed kennedy once again i repeat november of the

edgar hoover who prosecuted and persecuted black artists and amassed an 1,800 page file on author james baldwin. they surveilled and harassed martin luther king. the fbi tried to arrest john lennon. this is not an agency that is woke by any standard of modern politics. as part of my research for this piece this week, i determined that actually the fbi is the last of the dozen top federal law enforcement agencies that has never had a leader who is a woman or person of color. every fbi director has been a white male, a white republican male. >> it's a fascinating article, garrett graff. thank you. >> coming up, the republican lawmakers who are shying away from the former president in the face of mid-term elections and how that strategy is working. and later gary tuchman talks to m migrants who texas authorities are putting on busses to new york. not that one... that's the one. at university ofof phoenix, you coululd earn your master's degree in less than a year for under $11k. learn more at phoenix.edu new astepro allergy. now available without a prescription. astepro is the first and onl

why would ernest weathersby valuable to j edgar hoover at the time?time had no black agents. they could not just show up at a civil rights meeting. this is a time when fbi agents were being particularly accreted by hoover to be a white guy republicans from omaha, right? we love omaha, but you know what i mean. a very specific, clean-cut look. that is not the best workforce if you are tryg to infiltrate a black civil rights movement that is playing out in urban centers across the country. these human assets became vitally important for the fbi. people who could be in the room, knew everyone's name, introduce themselves, could ask for someone's address and it t be suspicious. ernest was a sponge of information. he already was one, he was a local photographer and he knew everyone and their mother and cousin, he knew where they lived in what their birthday was he had a lot of information. now the fbi could prime him to ask for questions. a lot of what ernest did is sold them photographs, photographs he would take otherwise and might sell to the associated

j edgar hoover will be proud. let's face it, i am joking for he is right 99.99 percent are patriotic but if you were takin the servant part too literary there is a fine line between servant and yes-man. like the covid vaccine they are supposed to be better. when you put nametags on angry parents -- suddenly parents became a terrorist group when the only harmful thing they do is ask you to friend them on facebook. just say no. then they will want more. just like that democrats are solely against -- f ei agent. don't call them wolves work tha are going to devour the people. >> this is banana republic kind of nonsense. >> republicans who complained about the weaponization of the doj and the fbi are in a way weaponization that rhetoric. >> it was incredible. we were there the whole time an we still are. but then they went charlie chaplin when writers short cities and supreme court justices were getting dock, som not try to murder brett cavanaugh for where was garland. ruth bader ginsburg did more than garland and she

that was defined as being a nefarious activity by j edgar hoover of the fbi. nefarious activities that had to be stopped. the law enforcement put pressure to define them as illegal and to just crush them, and to define them as an outlier that they were not needed in the community, when in fact they were. you think about fred hampton, the work of fred hampton ins chicago, trying to work with a blackstone ranger, the largest mayor to talk about how too turn that into a purveyor of something really positive and uplifting in the community. and the response coming out of the chicago police department and fbi was like we've got to stop them from hooking us up with thatit black body. and the counterintelligence program, so sending information saying the other has a hit outo for you they are trying to take you out. and i think that the labeling to defend the community from police violence, from the ravages of a system that just extracted resources from that community and put that community in harm's way that you've got this sense of let's paint them as nefarious and v

that breakfast program was defined as being a nefarious activity by j edgar hoover of the fbi a nefarious activity that had to be stopped. the law enforcement pressure put on the panthers to define them as illegal just crush them was an outlier that they were not meeting the needs of the community when in fact they were. you think about fred hampton the work fred hampton was doing in chicago. trying to work with the black stone rangers of the largest gang there to figure outut how o turn that gang into a purveyor of something really positive and uplifting in the black community. and their spots coming out of the chicago pd and theot fbi ase have got to stop that political head from hooking up without black body. counterintelligence program. so sending information to hampton and two forts and they got it hit out for the other has a hit out for you they are trying to take you out, to so distrust. and i think the labeling of the panthers not as an organization put in place to defend the black community from police violence. from the ravages of a system that just extracted resources from that

j edgar hoover started the fbi. -- host: new york, democrats line. eric. caller: good morning. see you. as always. i don't know. listening to america as i have a want to do in the mornings, my time is limited. the level of conversation. what we are talking about. i am not an internet person, but i get to listen to the results of what the internet has done to our quality of conversation. everybody -- there i go, i am just as bad. i hear people claiming to be experts on these current events whipping by at rates heretofore unseen by man. they know the skinny on what is going on and these complex things that a brain cannot contain. i see it. in my family, i have a relative who would drive by to go get ammo because ammo was available where we are. he would not stop to say hello, he would go out of his way to buy ammo and got more at odds. it is the quality of the conversation and i think it is being polluted by people thinking they know what other people are like by what they find online. host: what you pay attention to in the news? the quality of conversation. what are things you f

that breakfast program was defined as being a various activity by j edgar hoover of the fbi. a net various activity that had to be stopped. the law enforcement pressure put on the panthers to define them as illegal and to just crush them was, and to define them as an outlier that they weren'tmeeting the needs of the community when in fact they were . you think about it hampton. the work that fred hampton was doing in chicago. working with, trying to work with the black rangers of the largest gang there. to figure out how to turn that gang into a purveyor of something really positive and uplifting in the black community. at the response coming out of the chicago pd and the fbiwas like , we have got to stop that little head from looking hooking upwith that blackbody . so it's the counterintelligence program. it's sending information to hampton to jeff for saying got hit out and the other has a hit out for you trying to take you out . to so distrust. and i think that the labeling of the panthers, not as this organization put in place to defend the black community from police vio

for example j edgar hoover thought all members of the communistparty usa had to be spies . but look at koval. he played bridge.es he belonged to a bowling league. not the communist party usa and he mingled with his scientific peers in electrical engineering honorary fraternities. not with his fellow traveler. as his espionage appears were called. d.he simply wandered in. the book answers long lingering questions about his life. it brings to life many new details and reveals why he was undetected and it shows there were no coincidences. as a source years ago when i was at the wall street journal, a former prosecutor in new york actually told me when i asked him about what the best way to investigate our he said use timelines and chronology. and never accept coincidences. one good example of that here was his role at columbia university shortly after he returned to america as a red army trained spy. that's actually a line in one o of the fbi fail files, line without any context . he got a b by the way in the course. that was also bought. anyhow it's a great example of what co

edgar hoover fbi building. both were briefed on this before it happened. they knew well in advance this was going to happen. let's give you a little bit of a timeline how things have played out. had here is what we know. the fbi gave a heads up to the secret service and a few local law enforcement officials to let them know they would be entering mar-a-lago monday morning to take documents and had a valid search warrant. the contents of that warrant not made public as of this hour but there is growing public and political pressure, bret, to do so. the search was not related directly to the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. and alleged efforts by the skulled trump surrogates to undo the 2020 election. classified information when he left office in january 2021. later that year the national archives reached out to the trump team about phonily classified information being in florida and 15 missing boxes of material, eventually voluntarily turned over by the trump team which the archives says included classified documents. in june of this year, just a few

j edgar hoover takes it over in the 1920's and in the early 1930's, becomes the fbi and a massive system of political policing. files are kept on millions of americans, religious leaders, political leaders, celebrities, and of course labor leaders, leftist organizers, peace activists. and e fbi is the primary too at the federal level used to suppress left movements from the palmer raids that attacked opposition to war one to attacks on striking workers, the labor movement. i the 1960's, the mission begins to shift as communist and socialist movements have been successfully suppressed in many ways, the new threat and hoover's eyes becomes the black liberation movement of the 1960's, beginning really with the birmingham bus boycotts and continuing on to thereedom rides in the lunch counter sit-ins, long before let's say that molten black power movement, the fbi is laser focused on surveilling and undermining black liberation movements. dirty tricks like open surveillance of people to intimidate participants, hiring and performance, writing fake letters to try to implicate people in mital i

edgar hoover. but i think since trump's appointee as fbi director came in, there has been no real evidence of any corruption going on. now, maybe there is. maybe we will find out. we have to be vigilant. you are right to be skeptical. >> jesse: i'm skeptical because we saw what they did with this gretchen whitmer kidnapping situation. we saw them get involved in targeting parents that raise their voices at school board meetings. so i'm not ready to give ray a pass, ron. i do have to go and i love your books. and i recommend them highly. they are very well researched. >> well, you are right as usual. thank you. >> jesse: thank you very much, ron. see you soon. >> bye-bye. >> jesse: joe biden just had a big deplorable moment, worse than hillary. that's next. >> jesse: plus, we also asked people what they thought about fauci retiring. >> what is the best piece of advice that dr. fauci has ever given? >> the best advice? um -- ♪ in addition to the substitute teaching. i honestly feel that that's my cal

edgar hoover building, i'm walking down pennsylvania avenue from the metro station. so people are exposed and when you seeing some that happens in a place like cincinnati, if i were still taking that walk down d.c.'s pennsylvania avenue, if you're doing that, or if you're in a restaurant in cincinnati with your family, you got to look over your shoulder. i didn't anticipate it when al qaeda was coming after us, now americans are coming after us and you got to understand one of them might be coming after you. this is unprecedented in my experience. >> phil, what do you make of the call from some republicans for the fbi director christopher wray to come forward and justify the timeliness of this search? is that something you think he should do? >> i would be extremely uncomfortable doing that if i were him. there is a couple of reasons for that. first of all, we keep going back to a common principle, i realize this is a unique case, but american citizen deserves privacy. this hasn't been indicted. this person hasn't been accused formally of a crime. so as soon as you h

edgar hoover and the civil rights movement.en anything like what is being said about the fbi now? certainly coming from republicans and just elected officials who -- i mean, rick scott talking about the gestapo. >> look, there have been periods in our history where there has been outrage about the fbi. but, as margaret says, the thing that's unusual about this is, you know, the republican party has always presented itself as the law and order party. >> i mean, the president -- the former president was presenting himself as the law and order person just two weeks ago in washington in his return to d.c. >> yes. so, that's what makes this unusual. it also makes it dangerous. and we saw that yesterday in cincinnati. and i fear that's the tip -- just the tip of the iceberg if they continue down this road. but one thing i'd say, i'm not as sure that in the short run at least these republicans are going to separate themselves from trump. these revelations not withstanding. remember, it's 70% of republicans still believe or say they be

edgar hoover in 1908 to the formation of the fbi as we know it today in 19 09, numerous administrationsmerous presidents associated with it. the fbi's been under attack, and for some -- a lot of reasons for the right reason, okay. we're not above sin. in 100 years, over 100 years of service, the fbi like any organization has its scars. and we learn from those scars. the fbi has always been attacked by both sides of the aisle through its entire 100-year period. it's the agents that continue to do the work every day. we have to put -- agents have to put their heads down and not worry about the rhetoric and do their job and do the work that the american people are paying them and requesting them to do. the fbi leadership needs to also get out of the political fray. and then if these things like in the past end up in some type of review board, the fbi's always come out ahead, learned from their mistakes, and will continue to move on and flourish to support and protect the american people. >> yeah. quite a moment to have to put your head down and keep working at it. good to see you, thank yo

you see edgar hoover -- it's documented now. they killed him.ed to feel when -- imagine our positive role models, the football players and basketball players and athletes and entertainers and decide to come together and say, okay, we're going to help out our people, and all of a sudden the government kill them -- how do you think their kids are going feel about the next generation? that's the way tupac feel, the way we felt. we were able to do something. we was able to have a voice, move mountains, unite people, and we was able to unite color lines. tupac loved all people. didn't just make music for black people. he was trying to help black people, because we seen what was down to us when we were trying to help each other. >> the facts are there, as far as the establishment of america and white america lie about it or ignored it, and we have had a little more of this reckoning in the last few years. we have some of pac on all these issues i'm going play for you, because it's one thing to be right at the time. it's another thing to be ahead of yo

edgar hoover would be proud of the abuse of power and the pension recrossed ussing. i mean, why were they in melania's closet? but let's j face it, i'm joking he is right ninety nine point 99% of themrc are patriotic servants. but if you were taking the servant part two literally there's a fine line between servants and yes, men like the covid vaccines. they're supposed to be better and forgive us if we're a little warybett, especially wn you put threat tags on angry parents at board meetings based garland memo, you know, suddenly parents became a terrorist group when the only harmful thing they do is ask you to friend them on facebook ,justst say no because then they want more . but just like that, democrats are suddenly against criticizing law enforcement. they're putting targets-- on the back of fbi agents. you don't have to suggest thatt they are that they're planting c. ence don't call them wolves. are things going to devour the real people? republicans have comehe p out and condemned this ad. repu this is a banana republic kind of nonsense. ofdemonizing law enf

every single director of the fbi has been a republican official going back to jay edgar hoover himselfen i was researching that piece this week, i figured out that the fbi is the last of the top 12 or even 15 top federal law enforcement agencies that has never been led by a woman or person of color. so, every fbi director in its history has been a white republican male. >> so garrett, you made the case that obviously the rhetoric is out of control and clearly not based on fact. the question now is what can be done so this house panel sent these letters to social media companies. ultimately how effective can social media companies be in reporting these extremists when it's in their interest to spark engagement online and some of these radical folks are the most active on social media. >> yeah. i think it's important to think of the social media companies as effectively being the wildly enforced firefighters in this. you know, their job in this is to extinguish and minimize the blazes, but they're not the underlying arsonists. so the house oversight committee in that letter that you ment

could it be some microphones implanted by jay edgar hoover? no kennedy grind. it's from ike's golf shoes. you see he would put them on at his desk and then he would walk outside to practice his putting on a new putting green that he had put outside on the south lawn. well, jfk said, i guess we all have our own ways of relaxing from the burdens of office. at least i won't leave any marks on the floor. i wouldn't even tell you where that one goes. but anyway, let's return to taft. for he found in my beloved baseball another means of relaxation. it was taft to in 1910 at a washington senators game throughout the first ball and that became a thing that presidents do legend also taps calves credit with the seventh evening stretch as the story is told the six foot two 300 pound president grew increasingly uncomfortable in the small wooden chairs. so by the seventh inning he stood to stretch his legs then his fellow spectators decided that they saw him rising and they'd follow his lead as a matter of respect for the presidency. thus the tradition of the seventh ending

>> j edgar hoover's not a good thing. [laughter] >> i am sorry. [laughter] >> i'm sorry go on. >> you have to get beyond that. you know what i'm saying? it's a vision very close to what john quincy adams will have as president. and it is a vision of a nationstate that makes domestic and foreign policy in the robust way. and in that washington is a member of a very small minority in the nation. and anybody that opposes can lay onto his position because he is attempting to re-create the monarchy and of course jefferson is the main guy that is doing this behind the scenes. malone has spent 50 years writing about jefferson and said jefferson the 17 '90s i don't really understand what he is doing. it's been 50 years we don't understand what is doing. what he's doing is lying it is a treasonable. he is stabbing washington in the back. i might be wrong, kevin tell me, i have often said to students and i hope i was right, jefferson wrote to martha when he became president he was close to mount vernon, can i come see you? she never answered i don't think.

edgar hoover and the modern era nothing is changed except it's gotten far worse.emo warns of an increase in violent threats posted on social media against federal officials and facilities including a threat to places so-called dark dirty bomb in front of fbi hq. white house officials continue blaming those. there is a wall up between the biden office and the merrick garland office. >> the department of justice when it comes to law enforcement is independent. this is what we believe in this with the president has said. this is not about politicizing anything. >> the white house is not giving us any details about what the president may have known before or after this search warrant was executed. they say he's not gotten a formal briefing from the attorney general but in terms of what he has picked up from reading the newspaper or watching this show. we just don't know because they are not telling us. back to you. >> peter, on your trip we were talking to griff earlier and he said that the security is not ramped up significantly, even though there are these threats t

after that meeting, after her relationship with within -- bethune, j edgar hoover decides that she is communist and wants to strip her of her citizenship, have a secret meeting of the senate judiciary committee and wants to send her to live with her people the coloreds. she was intractable. in 1942 when black women were getting engaged in the west, the women's of the lower court, -- the women's auxiliary corps, they had substandard training. they are going to go overseas and some of them can't swim. in detroit, black women can't swim in the something pool. together, they integrate the public swimming facilities in detroit. step number two, every ounce of nitroglycerin produced in the second world war was not only made, it was poured into bottles. the bottles were put into cases, the cases were loaded into trucks. the trucks were driven and unloaded and given to the military. nitroglycerin the most volatile weapon the united states has before the bomb. black women in baltimore made every ounce. what does that tell you about what the army thought of expendable people? but thune and -- b

edgar hoover and an entire history of politicized behavior that we hoped in the 1980s and 1990s the bureauind of grown out of. but i think in the era of jihadist terrorism, they lost the police force and became the intelligence force and a very different discipline and i think it has given them less respect for the due process standards, the bill of rights protections that are really the heartbeat of criminal law enforcement. and that's what i think you have to worry about, that the bureau's culture has changed, and that they are overly comfortable getting involved in politics when we should want them a million miles away from politics. >> john: a week from now we will know what the doj is looking for. have a great weekend. so any thoughts on what you think the doj will do? >> aishah: maybe, maybe we'll know in a week. >> john: we'll know what the doj wants, they will submit redactions. >> aishah: i think timing is so important here, and especially for the trump team, the longer this takes, the longer it gives the trump team and republicans something to talk about, right. >> john: exactly.

it started with corruption with j edgar hoover, who used his power to control jfk and every other presidentm is they could not control trump, that is where they are having their problems. the fbi is as corrupt today as it was when it began. it is music to my ears when they say the -- defunded the fbi. it is useless and a danger to the country. thank you, hope you'll have a great day. host: the next caller is timothy and ohio, on the republican line. caller: good morning. first of all, i think president trump has done a fine job with all of the battles he has had to fight. i respect the first lady her speech i watched on television the other day. i realize something. that man has been ripped up one side and down the other for trying to bring the world back to americans. it is a hard job to go back through all the presidencies and everything. that is part of the reason why he took document to secure them, because he knew they'd be safe at his home. whatever else is going on, i have no political involvement. as i see things now, i am going to steer toward the republican party. if mr. trump run

the rest of the hoover's lives edgar becomes a very close confidant and advisor to bert. he becomes the sort of family accountant and treasurer if you will. but he also begins to function for lou as someone of go between between bert and lou because when they are living on the couple is living on two different continents edgar is usually with bert and it's edgar who's sending lou telegrams and letters about what bert's up to. he's the one who's the conduit for the correspondence. so what the couples did before the outbreak of world war one was they used to pool extra money together, which they referred to as the seeing cairo fund. and they would take off and they would go travel wherever they decided to go. it was very atypical of both couples. especially bird who like to have everything planned and this just happens to be a photograph of the foursome when they are in venice. well, then we get that word photograph by the way was 1912 we get to august of 1914 or the end of july. 1914 and world war one breaks out and if you'll just give me one second. thank you. so world wa

edgar were card. they were cards play very important roles in the lives of the hoover's through the rest of the diverse lives edgar becomes a very close confidant and adviser to burt. he becomes the family accountant and treasurer, if you will. but, he also begins to function for liu as somewhat of a go-between between burr and. because, when they are living and the couple is living on two different continents edgar is usually with burt. it is edgar who is sending glue telegrams and things about what burt is up to. so, what the couples did before the outbreak of world war i was they use to pull extra money together, which they would refer to as the seeing cairo phone. and they would take off, they would travel wherever they decided to go, it was very atypical above couples. especially burt, who like to have everything planned, this just happens to be a photograph of the foursome when they are in venice. that photograph, by the way, was 1912. we get to august of 1914, or the end of july 1914, and world war one breaks out. if you will just give me one second. world war i, if you study the history of euro