told you edgar hoover. thank you, but i'm going to stay with it and who and so clinton says but before we leave have a tape recording here we have been secretly taping the meetings of the communist central party and your name comes up and i have this recording here. why don't you listen to it? i'll step out and i'll come back. and if you feel the same way. i'll take the tape recording. you never hear from us again. she listens to the recording. she comes outside swearing like a mule skinner and. she said, i can't believe these people are calling me money back and stooge and we're taking we can know how to take advantage of olivia de havilland. she said, i'll have nothing to do with them ever again. it's quite story. so it's stories like that. by the way, clients said, do not publish this story until after olivia de havilland dies. i'm not sure why, but in any case, she lived to be like 103. so. but fortunately she has passed away in the end. so the story is there. there's a chapter in here called my friends

told you edgar hoover. thank you, but i'm going to stay with it and who and so clinton says but before we leave have a tape recording here we have been secretly taping the meetings of the communist central party and your name comes up and i have this recording here. why don't you listen to it? i'll step out and i'll come back. and if you feel the same way. i'll take the tape recording. you never hear from us again. she listens to the recording. she comes outside swearing like a mule skinner and. she said, i can't believe these people are calling me money back and stooge and we're taking we can know how to take advantage of olivia de havilland. she said, i'll have nothing to do with them ever again. it's quite story. so it's stories like that. by the way, clients said, do not publish this story until after olivia de havilland dies. i'm not sure why, but in any case, she lived to be like 103. so. but fortunately she has passed away in the end. so the story is there. there's a chapter in here called my friends

edgar hoover -- >> michael: can i read you another one even though it is your podcast? >> yes.veillance. i mean, what the [bleep] is going on? >> basically, if j. edgar hoover thought that you were, like, some hooligan, which was anyone who opposed the vietnam war, anyone involved in the civil rights movement, and anyone with long hair, or a tie-dye -- >> michael: well, that when i get, you know what i mean? >> of course. [laughs] >> if j. edgar hoover thought you were a problem for society, he would surveil you and the entire fbi apparatus would do this too. thankfully, these burglars proved that was happening and it was fixed for a little while. [laughs] >> michael: right. >> then there was the patriot act and the cold war and lots of other complicating factors. but it is still an important question to always be asking. like, are we protecting our civil liberties enough? does law enforcement have enough power? probably. where's the line? >> michael: it is great. it's a great listen. it is fun. you are somehow funny and it even though it is a serious topic. >> thank you. >> mi

edgar hoover. so pauling in becoming this outspoken anti anti-communist, someone who was saying anti communism has gone crazy. you are undermining american science and american education by attack on these educators. when he said this j. edgar hoover became convinced that that pauling must be a communist. he must be doing the soviets bidding if he was insisting that the red scare in education was wrong or going too far far. hoover was particularly upset when he learned that pauling at first refused to to say anything about whether he had ever in the communist party, because he said, well, that's just pauling said, that's playing into their hands. so i'm just not even going to answer that question. eventually, caltech forced him to answer the question and he said truthfully that he had never been a communist. right. but hoover is convinced that's lie. and so what started to do was, first of all, he launched a major investigation. the angeles fbi office started interviewing everyone from pauling's pa

edgar hoover, little young and j. a, b, edgar hoover. here he was, brand new. the bureau of investigation, which was the precursor of the fbi. this time he was the head of the general division when he was only 24 years old. and he got promoted, despite his shady history at the you know, he's only 22 but already had 24. he already had shady history at the bureau. he was involved in the palmer raids course when thousands of suspected anarchists communists were illegally detained and arrested and he was promoted to the head of the bureau at will in france, urging she went to the attorney general and said that he was honest and informed and one who operated like an electric wire almost trigger response. so she is responsible for getting j. edgar hoover hired. and she also him around. he had to answer to her. and i love the idea of j. edgar hoover to answer to a woman. so he handled translation and co to correspond bootleggers and various other. but the one thing about j. edgar at this time was he was really and sincere about having honest force of prohibition agent

in his battles with the j edgar hoover's of this world chaplin had the last laugh. he returned briefly to hollywood in triumph in 1972 to receive a lifetime achievement oscar and to receive what still stands as the longest standing ovation in the history of the academy awards. as he received his oscar tribute he was credited with believing that man's humanity was greater than man's inhumanity. chaplin's oldest films are being seen by the great grandchildren of their original viewers. extraordinary mixture of politics and social comedy and slapstick humor keep us thinking about politics and laughing about those with money and power to this day. this is an excellent discussion to one of the great lives of political film. we think too much. we feel too little. more the machinery we need humanity. without those qualities life would be violent and all would be lost. thank you. >> thank you very much. a very enjoyable. i have some questions to represent for the group. hello to our viewers at home. tonight i am wondering even though he was recognized in 1972 with all of th

edgar hoover, such a letter in april of 1971.nd he sent a letter back to her writing in part, and i'm quoting here for historical accuracy, "because of the nature of the duties our special agents are called upon to perform, we do not employ women in this position. we must have agents who are qualified to cope with any situation they may face." now, i don't think any speaker ever hopes to get booed by an audience, but i wouldn't mind it there. what i know and what all of you know, and what director hoover either didn't know or didn't acknowledge, is that women are absolutely essential and effective law enforcement. [applause] and it was just a year later that susan and joanne proved not only that they could do the job but that they could and would excel. now, fortunately, the numbers of women at the fbi who are special agents and fbi police officers are both steadily increasing. 10 years ago, women made up only 20% of our special agent ranks and only 16% of our fbi police officers. for those of you who don't know, fbi police offic

before this, i was not age they but on this it's going to to j edgar hoover because team nixon was a had legitimate cause to investigate them at the headquarters so why was hoover to do a legitimate investigation then that then became well before this chronology of you know the break in happened there's a case that mark felt opened up a case file and the case file would have a nickname, deep throat. so there's a history of mark felt state secret protecting minors. and nixon lost his presidency more. so you have to ask the question. the question there. but the question is about why wasn't nixon was impeached? because he botched what could have been a investigation. but it's a matter of anybody looking another question? well, i do want to i will say one thing that that the that this was the period of the imperial presidency and democrats before nixon had used the fbi to certain extent to a certain to do political investigations. there was a gray area in the constitution which the supreme court has now decided to wrap together and hand to the future a future president as a as area where

i thought there was really no threat of sabotage, as did j edgar hoover? >> there is a lot of historical controversy. but it that -- underscores that that occurred during wartime and it implicates a potential commander-inhi concerns, concerns about the exigencies of nationalse that might provide an as applied article to challe the time. i'm not suggesting today. but ea that a decision that was made and was endorsed he court perhaps wrongly would support criminal prosecution under 241 which requiresnder united states versus lanier that it had been made specific so there is notice to the president. >> we could go through other hioral examples, i won't do that. let me touch briefly on a couple ther things. the relevance of advice of your answer is.asn't clear what if the president getadce from the attorney general that something is lawful, is that an absolute defense? >> yes, i think that it is under the principle of entrapment. thisdue process doctrine that we referred to in our brief. we cited authority of this court that if an authorized government represe