and its chairwoman, edith ramirez, joins us to talk about it. welcome.st, tell us how this works. who are these data brokers? who are they collecting information for and to what end? >> jeff, thank you for having me here with you. well, these are companies that consumers simply don't know about, but they're companies that collect massive amounts of information about all of us. what is astonishing is the sheer breadth of their data collection and data practices. what's happening here is that all of us as we shop online, as we browse the web, whenever we post to social networks, we will be leaving the general bread crumbs these companies are scooping up and aggregating also with offline public information. >> brown: well, what's the problem? for many of us, a lot of this data, well, it helps us, right? it sends us to the right places. we use a lot of it ourselves for our shopping habits. what's the problem? >> let me emphasize that the data brokers collect the information, they share the information and sell it to other companies who use it for a variety o