>> edith wilson is such a fascinating character. so president wilson's first wife ellen died during his first term. and he married edith wilson who was a socialite. and she was anti-suffrage. occasionally a theory will be sort of floated that maybe he came around because of her influence. there is no evidence for that. any public statements she made was anti-suffrage. his daughters were a little more sympathetic. but edith was not. now by the end of the second term, wilson had a pretty devastating stroke. and edith wilson was running his administration much more than i think we will ever know. and i don't think there is some cache of papers somewhere that will show us how powerful edith wilson was. i think that will always remain. but she was the power behind the throne for definitely the last year of his administration. and there is no reason to think that she's the one who finally said, actually, women should vote. i know it would be a great story. he really came around to the luke warm degree he came around at all for totally pol

but then the willens, ellen wilson and edith wilson followed up and made sure it was created and people could see various pieces of presidential state services. then as you move forward you get to grace coalage and ruth hoover, both interested in the collection of antiques and cataloging what the white house already has. and by the time you get to jacqueline kennedy that's when there's a question about should the white house have this museum standard, and that means, you know, having a full staff on board, having a preservation commit to help with renovation projects. it was something that was building for about 50 years before that. >> what is your very favorite spot in the white house? same question for you, so you can think about it. >> my very favorite spot, i would say the blue room. the shape, obviously, but the furniture in there. as an early americanist, i really appreciate especially things from early america and james monroe essentially became president and he doesn't even have an executive mansion to move into, because it's still being rebuilt by james hoban after the fire. a