please comment on edith wilson's role after president wilson had a stroke. yes, that's what i was referring to earlier that people think that she you know petticoat government. that was the phrase that she was running the government and he was incapacitated. i mean she didn't let anyone in to see him or only of the very few trusted staff members into sea. but if you look at the things that did not get done, you know, there was a major strike there were problems with deporting people from the united states who didn't agree with certain policies. she really functioned as more like a a barrier to people who wanted to get near him. so if she'd been really a door. it should really take an over government. she would have acted in some of those cases where she did not so i think it's a it's been exaggerated. we have a number of questions from greg and excuse me maureen from new jersey and many others who want to know your thoughts on jackie kennedy who is obviously a favorite in this program because of her role in founding the white house historical association. ye

. >> trevor: that's insane, man, not only have first ladies influenced the president, edith wilson endeding the government. and by the way that totally screwed the vase president over. i mean like 90% of the vice president's job is being there in case the president goes down. so that is like being tom brady's backup and then he gets hurt but then gisele comes up lake no, no, i got this, get back on the bench, loser, i throw for my husband. so as the biden administration gets under way, history suggests that jill biden will likely be a mainler part of it. because first ladies always have been. and if you don't know, now you know. all right, when we come back the talented michael kiwanuka will join us for a chat an and exclusive formance so don't go it all starts with an invitation... ...to experience lexus. the invitation to lexus sales event. get 0% apr financing on the 2021 es 250 awd. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. ♪ ♪ almost spilled. the almost milk. chobani oat. tastes like milk. without the dairy. ♪ dramatic music ♪ ♪ dramatic music intensifies ♪ ♪ dramatic music really, r

and is it jill biden playing the role of edith wilson in 1819 when woodrow wilson for the last basicallyof his administration was stroke-ridden and inert. is she the conduit that funnels out information? is it, as you said, is it kamala harris and her team? they have this psychological particular of referring to herself as president harris or the harris-biden and that is shared by joe biden himself. or is it senior statesman barack obama who can't resist any current event to weigh in and who has stalked this administration with a lot of his former employers. i don't have the answer but it's getting a little scare request because we just had a debacle in anchorage where the chinese ate our lunch in a diplomatic tit-for-tat. if their way of thinking going the president the most important secretary is the secretary of defense, the most important agency in their way of thinking is the pentagon, when the president can't remember either and trips three times, they may get the wrong impression. you know, they did that with john kennedy in '61 in june. he said he got beat up by khrushchev and 13