our next guest to give us more information about this, the executive director of the ncaaa, edmund barry gaither. welcome back the urban update. >> thank you so much. deeply appreciate this opportunity to say more about our work and especially about black nativity. >> absolutely. let's get to it because we're officially in holiday season mode now. you've digested all your food from thanksgiving and knitwear in christmastime, right? >> yes, and christmas in boston does not come without black nativity. >> oh, i like that. >> black nativity is in piss forty-fifth year, and has become a cherished tradition for many, many, many people, not just in boston. it is a way of marking an intergenerational opportunity to share something that is about the value of caring, about the gift of hope, and about the profound commitment to rebirth, and all of those things are the content of black nativity, which we like to think of as the gift from the boston black community, to men and women of goodwill, of all traditions. >> that's a great -- you know, i'm sold. what do i say now? and i annal have to pay ten dollar