we also have edmund perotti, he's the co executive director of the partnership for inclusive disaster strategies and is based in philadelphia, pennsylvania. and finally welcome to aaron brown. she's a disability inclusion consultant based in nasa, in the bahamas. so much to discuss here anna, let's start with the basic, obvious and important question. why are people with disabilities disproportionately affected in the 1st place? that's a great question. so what happens is that when planning for disasters, disaster planners often don't include disabled people in the spectrum of those who are going to be affected. able ism positions are needs as too far outside the norm to be planned for. so you have this idea that disabled people are expected losses that we're just not going to make it, that we're not even worth planning for. and that's a self fulfilling prophecy. and that's why we see what we do with disabled people dying and being injured far more frequently. aaron, does that resonate? i see you nodding your head. oh, and the statement alone just gave me chills because that is a v ab