elbridge gerry edmund randolph. they were from virginia massachusetts and virginia, by the way, the order that i mentioned them, they to side. and one of the big concerns is a lack of a bill of rights. george mason had written virginia declaration of rights. he'd written the freedoms that the people of his state possessed, that the government take away. and there was not a bill of rights in this case that did not spell one out. some of their fellow delegates, like alexander hamilton, thought that a bill of rights could be unnecessary. maybe even dangerous. hamilton says that, you know, this constitution is we the people, giving powers to, the government, not the other way around. that the government cannot take these rights away because we have not given it the ability to do that. he suggests it could be dangerous to suggest there are limits on this, on a bill of writing, a bill of rights suggests other freedoms might be as important, may not be protected, but people are not swayed. a lot of folks agree with george

so we're going to meet those men that brian talked about, we're going to meet george mason, edmund randolph, elbridge, gerry, these men who really kind of folded their arms, turned up their noses at the constitution and really insisted on that bill of. so join us next week. it's going to be a really fun virtual tour and we're so excited that you you joined in and that you were able to hang out with us today. of course, next week is bill of rights week or bill of rights day falls next week. so you're going to see brian and i again and we're going to have a lot of fun. but again, a huge thank you for all of you tuning in. brian, thank you for sharing your time and expertise. this has been so much fun and everybody give yourselves around applause. you are all bill of rights rock stars so well you good job. thank you so much. thank you for hosting trivia game, madison. i feel like i did pretty i love it. it a good game. all right. we'll see you all time by good afternoon, ladies. gentlemen, welcome to historic st john's church, a national historic landmark and welcome to our liberty or death re

maryland's james mchenry, virginia's edmund randolph. and south carolina's charles coatsworth. pinckney. so they'd be just to put it in modern terminology, since we meet on the day after stephen breyer steps down from the supreme court to be replaced by one of his former law clerks, captain g. brown jackson. and you heard that way back when i clerked for then judge breyer. and that in boston, washington is surrounded by his law clerks, basically, you know, his military clerks. and they're there only 12 states there. and he's got a man in each of five separate states delegations. okay. so he's going to get what he wants and he does compared to the document that emerged from this conclave was also obviously washington's. the philadelphia constitution's primary goal was geo strategic. the fledgling american regime needed to create a strong and indivisible union, able to defend itself against europe's great powers. england, france, spain. i might even add. russia, which is on the western edge of the of the continent. and since we're thinking these days about about putin. okay. the

randolph williamsburg. president of your convention. edmund pendleton. caroline county. benjamin harrison. charleston county. richard henry. lee westmoreland. colonel george washington fairfax county. and of course, the gentleman who needs no introduction. mr. patrick of hanover county. ladies and gentlemen, the delegates of. the second virginia convention.

randolph williamsburg. president of your convention. edmund pendleton. caroline county. benjamin harrison. charleston county. richard henry. lee westmoreland. colonel george washington fairfax county. and of course, the gentleman who needs no introduction. mr. patrick of hanover county. ladies and gentlemen, the delegates of. the second virginia convention. let's get to the main event. we're going to have a good conversation tonight. we have dr. rick moreira, ricardo pereira visiting professor of military history of the u.s. army war college at carlisle barracks, pennsylvania previously a professor of military history at the school of advanced military studies at the us army command and general staff college at fort kansas. he's also a veteran of the u.s. army. he earned his m.a. and ph.d. from marquette. he's the author of for liberty and the republic, the american citizen, a soldier, 1775 to 1861 and many, many other articles helping us understand in the development of the united states. he's worked on his new book while he was a member of washington fellow on the washington libraries, f