well, that's it for eyes on edukashon. remember, kids, keep hitting those books and if that doesn't destroy them, try a wood chipper. we'll be right back. >> stephen: hey, welcome back, everybody. my guest is an a clipped sports reporter who has written 18 books. he had to fine something to keep him awake during baseball games. please welcome frank deford. thank you so much for stopping in, have a seat. sir, first of all, i have to compliment you on being a dapper gentleman. not everyone shows the respect to come on my show with the-- and the cher sheaf. >> sports writers are usually looked upon as involve enly an i like to go opposite. >> the oscar -- >> exactly, i'm not a typical sports writer, i don't even play golf which drives people crazy. >> you don't play golf, how do you make business deals. >> that's it. i'm a writer. i don't have to. >> now you've got a new book called overtime. my life as sports writer. >> yes. >> stephen: is it overtime or over time. >> no, it's a play on words, see it means two things am are