>> one of the most interesting and insightful people, of the journalists, edward ansel. and at the time, there were -- there were huge number of american correspondents in europe and injure any, and by the middle '30s. there were about 50 american correspondents stationed in berlin, i thought the period like where bill and i were in the -- in the '80s and '90s was a nice time for foreign correspondence, by comparison it was nothing. you had major publications that no longer exist. in chicago, and philadelphia, and boston. competing wire services. those, among the correspondents, those really stand out. there were people who came over, hamilton, fish, armstrong, the editor of foreign affairs, came over and met hitler and wrote a book about the early days of the reicht, that was perceptionive, he was the head of the foreign policy association here in new york. later on, soon became the commissioner for reguges for the league of nations. he was a remarkable figure. he just came back and said, he is aiming too exterminate the jewish race, and nobody wanted to listen to him.