b campaign finance reform. and even if it were, john edwards did the same thing. he got away with it. he was charged, it went to trial, he won at trial. what about that? >> the big difference is that with edwards, it really was an ambiguous question. the jury wasn't convinced about whether he was doing it for political campaign purposes or to spare his wife, who was -- >> fighting cancer. >> very, very ill. this is not that case. he was not doing it out of a warm-hearted view of melania he was doing it -- this will have to be proven, but he was doing it to fool the american people so he would win the presidency. that's serious stuff. in fact, the framers of the constitution had that in mind, that very kind of thing when they said surely someone who corruptly gains the office of president cannot be allowed to retain that office. that was their prime example of somebody who should be removed from office. so the president may think it's -- go ahead. >> that takes us to the central question, following your own lead here, professor, which is the d.o.j. after the nixon situation and once ag