emily: tell me about your relationship with edward snowden. kim: i think he is a hero. admire his courage. he will be remembered in history as one of the great people of our time. emily: what is he up to? kim: he is happy, he is fine. he is in russia. i think he is pleased that the debate has been triggered based on the things he has done. especially to americans. emily: when it comes to china, iran, islamic terrorists, the u.s. government, what are you most worried about when it comes to spying, hacking? kim: i am worried about the situation in ukraine. i think putin is someone i would be very careful with. i think that obama has done a good thing in negotiating with iran, trying to find a resolution to the nuclear standoff. emily: what about other countries? north korea and sony? should we be concerned about north korea? kim: you do not really believe that north korea hit sony. i do not believe that for a minute. emily: who did that? kim: some sophisticated group that has an interest in what hollywood is doing. emily: you do not think it is a group with ties to north k

emily: tell me about your relationship with edward snowden. emily: you were arrested for the first time when you were 18. you were convicted of insider trading. why should we trust you? many people think you are the world's biggest tyrant. a white-collar criminal. kim: i am an easy target. when i was a young man, i made some mistakes. but i never hurt anyone. i hacked into systems because i was an adventurer. i wanted to find out if aliens exist. i have grown. i am a family man. i have five kids. i am not a criminal. emily: what is this new business you are working on? kim: after the raid, i spent a lot of time thinking about the intrusion of privacy. in my case, they have used the nsa to spy on me. the prime minister of new zealand has apologized to me. i created a cloud storage website where people can be 100% sure their data is fully encrypted, that no government can access it. that we, as a service provider, cannot access private data. emily: you cannot see what is in the files? so the nsa could not get it. kim: they would get a lot of garb

emily: tell me about your relationship with edward snowden? kim: he will be remembered in history as one of the great people of our time. i think he is a hero and i admire him for his courage. emily what about julian assange? what is your relationship with him yet ofhim? kim: what julian assange is doing is putting a spotlight on the secrets. emily: you tweeted you were going to be hillary's worst nightmare. how so? >> it is probably more julian. i am aware of some of the things that are going to be roadblocks for her.

emily: tell me about your relationship with edward snowden? will be remembered in history as one of the great people of our time. >> what about julian assange? kim: what julian assange is doing is putting a spotlight on the secrets. emily: you tweeted you were going to be hillary's worst nightmare. how so russian mark >> it is probably more julian. i am aware of some of the things that are going to be roadblocks for her. if i can provide transparency with these people and make them part of what the internet party stands for, i will be happy to do that. emily: julian assange is going to be her worst nightmare? how so? kim: he has access to information. emily: what information? kim: i don't know the specifics. emily: she's an adversary -- kim: she is an adversary to internet freedom. emily: and you have a bone to pick with her. kim: i like hillary. i like obama. it is crazy all of this happened. emily: should hillary be worried about julian assange? i will to bring back my panel of experts. shawn henry at cloud strike. what do you make of his rem

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emily chang. he talked about his legal struggles, his relationship with fellow tech outlaws including edward snowdend his views on piracy. here is a sneak peek. emily: do you believe in copyright? >> i believe in copyright but not copyright extremism. extremism is if you are a hollywood studio and you lease your content -- and you release your content and one country first and then roll it out over a couple of months and expect the internet community and all of these different countries to wait for the relief. they have just launched at netflix here in new zealand. the catalog of content here is roughly 10% of what they offer in the u.s. that is completely unfair. because people don't get that access, they are looking for stuff elsewhere. it is a problem created by the content creators. i am not responsible for the. if they would have an offering that has all content globally available for a fair price on any device, piracy which rank into insignificant -- piracy would shrink into insignificant. if it is illegal and you don't take it down, does not mean what you are doing is illegal also? >> i have

emily: interesting that amazon did not find his letter. do you know why? i know edward snowden has been more criminal of -- critical of amazons technology saying it is not good enough. guest: i don't know why amazon did not sign it. i know people on the team, my company uses amazon's services. i looked at their security. i think it is good. i don't think it is because they have weaker crypto. emily: obviously they have made it clear this is what they want. but how big is this impact? guest: i've given you the law-enforcement intelligence perspective, putting on my privacy lawyer hat and former white house official hat, sometimes our national leaders have to look beyond just a short-term technological advantage for law enforcement intelligence. and look at not just privacy and civil liberties, but also the competitiveness of american companies overseas and need to get the trust back of customers around the world. i think it's too early to tell what the impact will be if this letter succeeds. but i will say this. although i'm in favor of the letter i don't think we should