edward jay epstein, in your opinion, why did president obama pardon edward snowden?resident obama, in this case was the man who knew too much. unlike the world of journalism, the world president -- of access to, they have the findings of our own intelligence communities, the cia, the nsa, that the eye. so he knew without a doubt that snowden was lying when he came the u.s. that government, specifically obama, tracked him in moscow. he knew he was lying when he said he had no contact with russian intelligence. he is known and was leinonen -- was lying when he said he had only taken whistleblowing documents. even compassion, and no present to give him a pardon, and he did not give him a pardon. >> your book, called "how america lost its secrets: edward ,"owden, the man and the theft when did you get interested in doing this story? dr. epstein: i have always been interested in espionage. i temporarily interrupted my interest when the cold war ended. it was suddenly announced that someone had stolen communication snowden and facts admitted it on video. there was no whodu

. >> this week on q&a, investigative journalist edward epstein. he discusses his book, "how america lost its secrets." edward snowden, the man and the theft. >> in your opinion, why didn't president obama pardon edward snowden? >> president obama in this case was the man who knew too much. unlike the world of journalism, the world of presidents, they have access to the findings of our own intelligence community. the c.i.a., the n.s.a., the f.b.i. so he knew without a doubt that snowden wases lying when he claimed -- was lying when he claimed that the u.s. government, and specifically obama, had trapped him in moscow. he knew that snowden was lying when he said he had no contact with russian intelligence. he knew that snowden was lying when snowden said he had only taken whistleblowing documents since he had the damage report. so, given those facts that we almost -- there would be almost no reason, not even compassion, because the man isn't in prison, no reason for him to give him a pardon and he did not give him a pardon. >> your book, called "how

edward epstein has dedicated his life to investigating a lot of things including journalism, he releasedatest book how america lost its secrets snowden, the man at the theft, edward jay epstein, great to see you. you point out that some way the snowden did of the market public a favor, but he'd went way beyond that and damaged american national security, why didn't he stop at a public part of what he did? >> i think one has to acknowledge that there's always a silver lining to every cloud that the cloud was a dark thunderstorm in terms of what happened to american intelligence because of the damage purposely and deliberately inflicted by snowden. >> tucker: it was purposeful and deliberate you demonstrate you went overnight to russia, what was his motive, exactly? >> i don't know his motive. i'm more or less interested -- i'm more interested in his actions, why he took these documents, 1.5 alien files, accg to the house permanent select committee on intelligence he removed those files, he compromised the entire communications intelligence of the west shrunk by that amount. why did he do

"q&a" withp next, investigative journalist edward epstein, followed by british prime minister theresa may taking questions from members of the house of commons. later a discussion on trade policy in the future of nafta. ♪ >> this week on "q&a," edward jay epstein discusses his book "how america lost its secrets: edward snowden, the man and the theft." >> edward jay epstein, in your opinion, why did president obama pardon edward snowden? dr. epstein: president obama, in this case was the man who knew too much. unlike the world of journalism, the world of presidents, they have accs

edward epstein has dedicated his life to investigating a lot of things including journalism, he releasedest book how america lost its secrets snowden, the man at the theft, edward jay epstein, great to sew you. you point out that some way the snowden did of the market public a favor, but he'd went way beyond that and damaged american national security, why didn't he stop at the public service part of what he did? >> i think one has to acknowledge that there's always a silver lining to every cloud that the cloud was a dark thunderstorm in terms of what happened to american intelligence because of the damage purposely and deliberately inflicted by snowden. >> tucker: it was purposeful and deliberate you demonstrate you went over to russia, what was his motive, exactly? >> i don't know his motive. i'm more or less interested -- i'm more interested in his actions, why he took these documents, 1.5 million files, according to the house permanent select committee on intelligence, he removed, once he removed those files, he compromised the entire communications intelligence of the west shrunk by

. >> this week on q&a, investigative journalist edward epstein. he discusses his book, "how america lost its secrets."

. >> investigative journalist edward j. epstein on his book, "how america lost its secrets, edward snowden, the man and the theft." >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if his supporters say that he did no damage. they say he did enormous good. that's their view. maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest. but i think where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it is. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q & a. >>> officials from the justice department and the office of special counsel a

. >> coming up next, q&a with investigative journalist edward j. epstein. then we take your phone calls and look at toyed's headlines on "washington journal." -- today's headlines on "washington journal." he knew without a doubt that snowden was lying when he claimed that the u.s. government had trapped him in moscow. he knew that snowden was lying when he said he had no contact with russian intelligence. he knew that snowden was lying when he said he had only taken whistleblowing documents. given those facts, there is him to giveason for him a pardon, and he did not give him a pardon. >> your book, called "how america lost its secrets: edward snowden, the man and the theft," when did you get interested in doing this story? dr. epstein: i have always been interested in espionage. i temporarily interrupted my interest when the cold war ended. it was suddenly announced that someone had stolen communication secrets. in fact, snowden admitted it on video. there was no whodunit. he then went to russia. this interested me because it was a potential -- i stress th

edward jay epstein, "how america lost its secrets: edward snowden, the man and his thefts." edward: maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation. but i think where donald trump is right is this man has not toed justice and he deserves face justice, whatever we decide it is. announcer: sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. our series of interviews on new members of withess, we met congressman thomas suozzi, democrat of new york. >> congressman tom suozzi represents new york democrats in the third district. tell us what you were doing before you ran for the seat. rep. suozzi: i was trained originally as a lawyer and a certified public accountant and i worked for arthur andersen and company and i clerked for the chief judge of the eastern district in the federal courts and i worked for a big law firm -- and thentirling i was the mayor of my hometown for eight years and then i was the county executive of a very large county nassau county on long island one point three million people two point eight billion dollars budget. i did that for eight years. i

journalistative edward epstein on his book. >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if reporters say he did no damage. they say they did enormous good. maybe he did some good, but he started a national conversation. he opened up a subject of interest that i think where tru mp is certainly right businessman has not -- is this man has not faced justice. easterny night at 8:00 on c-span's q and a. philadelphia's museum on american revolution was scheduled to open on april 19. are constructing the museum, team of archaeologists excavated the site a few blocks from independence hall. in the process, been covered about 82,000 artifacts. team of archaeologists excavated the site a few blocks from independencenext on american hi, american artifacts, we will see a selection of these artifacts and learn about the history of this part of philadelphia from the early 18th century up until the 1940's. vicem scott stevenson, president of programming at the museum of the american revolution. >> i was the principal archaeologist for the excavation of the site. feet

. >> edward jay epstein and his book. >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if his supporters say he did know damage. they say he did under enormous good. that's their view. and maybe he did some good, because he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest. think trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. >> now we hear from a new member of congress. nanette kerrigan is from california's 44th congressional district. we spoke with her on capitol hill. >> congress roman nanette -- congresswoman nanette barragan. tell us about what you were doing before you ran for office. >> i was serving on the council where i lived in hermosa beach. i was practicing law. i just got enough a flight for -- i had just gotten off a flight for an oil company that wanted to drill in the santa monica bay. it was a long fight. >> why did you go into law? >> when i was a kid, my parents were poor. my mom said, you are a d

announcement on february 1 at 5 p.m., security by thsaturdayby the book will ht session to interview edward epstein on his book how americat lost its secrets, the man and the fact. books will be available on a first-come first-served basis. a quick reminder there is no q-and-a. we have podcasts so if you missed anything you can listen m to the podcast available. a quick introduction the cochair he is also a professor of law at harvard university. >> thanks for coming tonight. the author and editor of the book the trial i and the memo ws targeted killings in the secrecy of the law much of the book contains the root's. the litigation involved in the nose and why zero he was the deputy legal director at the person in charge at the aclu sees the first director of the institute of columbia university and started out his career as an attorney at aclu and first transparency initiative during t the bush administration very aggressively and get access to information for the bushn administration. the book starts off with 55 or so essays that they must read aa and a fundamental critique of the obama administr

. >> investigative journalist edward epstein on the book "how america lost its secrets." supporters say that he did no damage and did a norm is good. that is their view. maybe he did some good. he started a national conversation. he opened up a subject of interest. but i think that where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it is. >> tonight at 8 p.m.

wednesday february 1 at 5 p.m., security by the buck will have its next session and interview edward epstein on his new book how america lost its secret. books will be available on a first-come, first-served basis. a quick reminder there is no q-and-a but instead we encourage you to engage with the author and we also will have a podcast so if you miss anything you can listen to the podcast available as well as on the website and i will just do a quick introduction of our interviewer senior fellow at the senior institution and the national security working group and also the henry professor of law at harvard university. the author and editor of the book the drone and those targeted killing secrecy of the law. much of the book contains the fruits som, the legal memoranduo bring more transparency. he did this while he was involved in the litigation involving these other activities while he was the director and the person in charge. he is currently the first director oeffectof the amendment columbia university and he'd starhestarted out his career afr 2001 and his first transparency initiative i

also joining are edward epstein, an investigative journalist and gideon rose, editor of foreign affairsagazine with guest host . welcome. gideon, why don't we begin with you. what exactly does russia want with all this? >> there's the crazy stuff going on in russia and all of that but is not crazy.rt it is straightforward. vladimir putin is a ruthless leader of a strong, but not dominant power, trying to advance his own country's interest in whatever way he can. the main thing he is trying to do is resist what he sees as regional encroachment, and he wants to push out on the borders and get compliant border states. and he wants to undermine the liberal order that the u.s. and allies have constructed that essentially runs much of the world. so what he is trying to do any variety of ways is advanced russian national interests, pushing the edges of his sphere of influence outward, and undermine enemies. so it is largely designed to mess with other countries, ideally if you can, to get progress and elected. and if not, to cast doubt on the notion that liberal democracy is worthwhile, that t

. >> edward epstein on his book, "how america lost its secrets." >> he did the enormous damage. i do not even know if his supporters say he did no damage, he did enormous good. that is their view. he started a national conversation. and he opened up a subject of interest. but i think where donald trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice, and he deserves the face justice, whatever we decide. >> sunday night at 8:00 on c-span's q & a. >> this morning at the white house, attorney general jeff sessions was officially sworn in by the vice president. president trump had remarks before hand and also signed executive orders after the attorney general spoke. pres. trump: thank you for being here today. it is with great pride that i say these words to you right now. atrn ger jfeson

. >> edward epstein on his book "how america lost its secrets: edward snowden, the man and the fact." >> heated enormous damage. i don't know if his supporters say he did enormous damage, they say he did enormous good. maybe he did some good. he started a national conversation. and he opened up a subject of wherest, but i think trump is right is that this man has not faced justice. and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide. >> on c-span's q&a. historians talks about what life was like for freedmen after the civil war and the overall successes and failures of reconstruction. they discussed educational opportunities, land redistribution, and voting rights as well as the politics behind these reconstruction measures. this panel was part of the annual lincoln forum's symposium. it is about an hour in 15 minutes. the title of this panel may be a little deceiving. -- if i can read it here. [laughter] voting rights for black freedmen. what went right and what wrong. it seems to be couched in the terms of voting rights. it is really about reconstruction. i think you all know that an

investigative journalist edward j. epstein on his book, "how america lost its secrets. snowden, the man and the." >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know it his supporters say he did no damage. they say he did enormous good. that's their view. and maybe he did some good. and he opened up a subject of interest. trump isink where certainly right, is where this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice. at 8:00 eastern on "q&a."s >> on tuesday, vice president mike pence officiated at the swearing-in ceremony for education secretary betsy devos. the vice president cast the tie-breaking vote on her confirmation. a final vote was 51/50 with two republican senators, lisa murkowski of alaska and susan collins from maine, voting no on her nomination. >> ladies and gentlemen, the vice president of the united states. >> at evening, everyone. i bring greetings from the president of the united states on behalf of president donald trumptrump, it will be my great privilege to administer the oath of office for the next secretary of education for the united states o

. -- edward snowden. epstein onst edward his book "how america lost its secrets." >> he did enormous damage. what hisven know supporters say, they said he did enormous good. i don't know. but he started a national conversation. any opened up a subject of increase -- of interest. but where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice, and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide. tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." now, a look at the u.s. process for screening refugees from today's washington journal. this is 30 minutes. joining us from the campus of tufts university is karen jacobsen, a native of south africa and a professor of global migration at the fletcher school. good morning. thank you for being with us. guest: good morning. thank you for having me. host: one of the questions you posed is how difficult it is to get into the u.s. for these migrants coming to the united states. walk us through the process and what you have learned. guest: ok. the process has been in place for

. >> edward epstein on his book on how america lost its secrets. >> he did an enormous damage. i do not even know if his supporters say he did no damage, they say that he did enormous good. that is their view. maybe he did some good by starting a national conversation. and he opened up a subject of interest, but i think where donald trump is right is that this man has not faced justice, and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide. >> sunday night on c-span. >> a look at the baltimore convention center, the site of the democratic national committee for him -- forum. we will join the event as they feature a discussion between the candidates for dnc chair. it is moderated by april ryan, the white house correspondent and bureau chief for urban radio

. >> investigative journalist edward epstein on his book, how america lost its secrets. >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if his supporters say that he did no damage. they say he did enormous good. that is their view. maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation. he opened up a subject of interest. but i think where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." >> president trump welcomed japanese prime minister shinzo abe to the white house for a meeting in the oval office. they discussed trade policy and global security. before holding a joint news conference in the eastern. -- on the east room. while taking questions from reporters, the president was asked about his executive order on immigration and his reaction to the ninth circuit court of appeals ruling that keeps the government from implementing the order. this is 30 minutes.

edward epstein is an veggive journalist author of how america lost its secrets, edward snowden, the man and the theft. and gideon rose, the editor of foreign affairs magazine and an old friend of this program. welcome. gideon, why don't we begin with you. set the scene, what exactly does russia want from all this? >> so there is the crazy stuff going on in america and elsewhere. but the russian part actually isn't that crazy. the russian part is pretty straight forward. vladimir putin is a smart, ruthless, leader of a strong but not dominant power whose trying to advance his own country's interests in whatever way he can. now the main things that he is trying to do are resist what he sees as regional encroachment and therefore he wants to push out on his borders and get nice compliant border states. and the second thing is he wants to undermine the liberal order that the united states and its allies have constructed that essentially runs much of the world. and so what putin is trying to do in a variety of different ways is advance russian national interests, push the actual edges of his

announcer: edward jay epstein on his book "how america lost its secrets: edward snowden, the man and the theft." he did enormous damage. is supporters say he did enormous good. maybe he did some good. he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest, but i think where trump is right is that this man has not faced justice, and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decided. announcer: sunday night at 8:00 eastern, on c-span's "q&a." the senate is back in session monday when it resumes debate on the confirmation of steve mnuchin as treasury secretary. a vote on his confirmation is .et for 7:00 p.m. eastern after that, a vote to confirm david chilton as veterans affairs secretary. later, the senate is. after that, a expected to confirm linda mcmahon as small business administrator. thursday, the confirmation hearing for andy custer, trump's labor secretary nominee. the hearing begins at 10:00 a.m. eastern. we will have live coverage on c-span3. you can also listen live on the free c-span radio app. c-span -- announcer: c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1

and at 11:00, another chance to see "q&a," with investigative journalist edward jay epstein. week, british prime minister theresa may faced questions on the uk's plan for exiting the european union. this happened to several hours before members voted in favor of legislation allowing the prime minister to officially begin the brexit process. it is 45 minutes. speaker: order. questions for the prime minister. >> number one, mr. speaker. thank you, mr. speaker. i had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others, in addition to my duties. i shall have further such meetings later today. the premium in chesterfield, where 70% of people receive free school meals. the headteacher was running the great north rome. however, her new schools funding formula means that the junior school now faces the biggest cuts in all of derby shire. it is now the only alternative to sacking staff. will she go to the finish line and tell them how this is a fairer funding formula? pm may: i am pleased to say that in a local authority of the honorable gentleman's constituency, we have seen an increase

. >> investigative journalist edward epstein on the book "how america lost its secrets." the supporters say that he did no damage and did a norm is good. that is their view. maybe he did some good. he started a national conversation. he opened up a subject of interest. but i think that where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it is. >> tonight at 8 p.m. eastern on c-span's "q&a." update on security operations in afghanistan by military operations commander, general john nicholson. the senate armed services committee hearing is just of -- just under -- just over two hours. -- senator mccain: well, good morning. we thank you for your many years of distinguished service in afghanistan at a critical time. we would ask you to relate to the brave men and women under your command how proud we are of their service. america has been in war and afghanistan for more than a decade and a half. it's always worth remembering that american forces went to afghanistan because that is where under the sanctuary

edward jay epstein, "how america lost its secrets: edward snowden, the man and his thefts." edward: maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation. but i think where donald trump is right is this man has not toed justice and he deserves face justice, whatever we decide it is. announcer: sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's q&a. our series of interviews on new members of withess, we met congressman thomas suozzi, democrat of new york. >> congressman tom suozzi represents new york democrats in the third district. tell us what you were doing before you ran for the seat. rep. suozzi: i was trained originally as a lawyer and a certified public accountant and i worked for arthur andersen and company and i clerked for the chief judge of the eastern district in the federal courts and i worked for a big law firm -- and thentirling i was the mayor of my hometown for eight years and then i was the county executive of a very large county nassau county on long island one point three million people two point eight billion dollars budget. i did that for eight years.

. >> edward j. epstein on "how america lost its secrets edward snowden the man and the theft." >> they say he did enormous good. that's their view. maybe he did some good. because he started a national conversation. and he opened up a subject of interest. but i think where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice. whatever we decided. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q & a. >> at ninth circuit court of appeals heard a case on refugee and immigration ban today president trump is meeting with sheriffs at the white house saying he is prepared to fight legally for the travel ban. this is half an hour. >> nice to see up. nice to meet you.

. >> investigative journalist edward j. epstein on his book, "how america lost its secrets, edward snowden, the man and the theft." >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if his supporters say that he did no damage. they say he did enormous good. that's their view. maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest. but i think where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it is. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q & a. >>> officials from the justice department and the office of special counsel as well as legal experts testify before a house oversight and government reform subcommittee on whistleblower protections. witnesses discuss the benefits and shortcomings of a 2012 whistleblower law. this is about an hour and a half. >> the subcommittee on government operations will come to order. without objection, the chair is authorized to declare a recess at any time. i will defer at this time

journalists have accepted information from a single source, edward sno wden, who is in moscow under the control of the russian government. bookward epstein on his how america lost its secrets, edward snowden. >> he did enormous damage. hisn't even know if supporters say they did no damage. they say he did an enormous good. maybe he did some good. he started a national conversation and he opened up a i thi i think where trump is right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern. on lectures in history, anderson university professor joel shrock teaches a class about freedom summer, the 1964 black voter registration project in the 1960's. he talks about the efforts of leaders such as bob moses to include white volunteers in order to bring mia

generalists have accepted information from a single isrce, edward snowden, who in moscow, under the control of the russian government. jay epsteinn his book "how america lost the secret." .> he did the norm edge damage i don't even know if his supporters say he did no damage. they say he did enormous good. maybe he did some good because you started national conversation. he opened up a subject of interest, but i think where trump is certainly right is this man has not faced justice, and he deserves to face justice. tonight on c-span's "q&a." on "they night communicators," the new chair of the house subcommittee on communications and technology, marsha blackburn on her priorities for the subcommittee and how she expects indications and tech issues will change this year with the republican administration and republican led fcc. representative blackburn is interviewed by john handel, congress reported for communications daily. >> making certain that we is ans that what we have opportunity cap, communities that do not have broadband, then they are not able to go in and expand educational opportunity for their students. they are not

journalists accepted information from a single source, edward snowden, who is in moscow under control of the russian government. >> investigative journalist ay epstein on his book "how america lost its secrets." >> he did in your miss damage. i don't know that his supporters think he did damage. they think he did good. started a that he conversation. but where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced to justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span pro "q&a." >> on friday, president joh donald trump and japanese prime minister shinto of eight held a meeting at the white house on japanese alliance. this is about 30 minutes. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states and the prime minister of japan. pres. trump: thank you very much. prime minister abe, on behalf of the american people, i welcome you to the very famous white house. you honor us with your presence. this is one of our earlier st visits from a foreign leader, and i am truly glad that it could be from such an important and steadfast ally. the bond between our two nations and the friendship between our tw

journalists have accepted information from a single source, edward snowden, who is in moscow under the control of the russian government. journalistative epstein on his book. i don't even know if his supporters say he did no damage, they say he did enormous good. that is their view. maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest. but i think where trump is certainly right is this man has not faced justice, and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on "q&a." >> next, a look at the future of political parties in the u.s. with ava brady and -- david brady and melissa mccain. they look at how issues are shipping public opinion. from the commonwealth club of california, this is just over one hour.

journalists accepted information from a single source, edward snowden, who is in moscow under control of the russian government. >> investigative journalist ay epstein on his book "how america lost its secrets." >> he did in your miss damage. i don't know that his supporters think he did damage. they think he did good. started a that he conversation. but where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced to justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span pro "q&a." >> on friday, president joh

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journalistative edward epstein on his book. >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if reporters say he did no damage. they say they did enormous good. maybe he did some good, but he started a national conversation. he opened up a subject of interest that i think where tru mp is certainly right businessman has

. >> investigative journalist edward j. epstein on his book "how america lost its secrets," edward snowden, the man and the theft. >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if his supporters say he did no damage. they say he did enormous good. that's their view. and maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest. but i think where trump certainly is right is that this man has not faced justice, and he deserves to face justice, whatever the justice -- whatever we decide. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. >>> c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies, and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. >>> and we're live now as homeland security secretary john kelly will be testifying on border security and president trump's executive orders on immigration. the retired general appearing today before the house homeland security committee. live coverage here on c-spa

. >> investigative journalist edward jay epstein, on his book, "edward snowden, the man and the theftw america lost its secrets." in normsay that he did is good. he did in or missed damage. that's their view. maybe he did some good because he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest, but i think that where trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice. >> sunday night at eight p.m. eastern on c-span "-- c-span's "q&a." where history unfolds daily. c-span was created in 1979 and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. >> "washington journal" continues. ,ost: michelle lujan grisham democrat from new mexico, candidate for governor in the land of enchantment and our next 30 minutes. i want to start with the president's proposal for a border wall. you have your own bill, the build bridges not walls act, aimed at stopping the border wall. what's the mechanism by which you hope to do that in congress? guest: thank you for having me today. i'm delighted.

. >> coming up next, q&a with investigative journalist edward j. epstein. then we take your phone calls and look at toyed's headlines on "washington journal." -- today's headlines on "washington journal."

. >> edward jay epstein and his book. >> he did enormous damage. i don't even know if his supporters say he did know damage. they say he did under enormous good. that's their view. and maybe he did some good, because he started a national conversation and he opened up a subject of interest. think trump is certainly right is that this man has not faced justice and he deserves to face justice, whatever we decide it. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q&a. >> now we hear from a new member of congress.