here is one exchange between center lindsey graham and edward flynn. >> why aren't we prosecuting those that failed a background check? they aren't hard to understand. i'm a bit frustrated that we say one thing but in the real world we do nothing to enforce the laws on the books. >> i mean, for the record from my point of view. >> how many cases have you made? >> it doesn't matter. it is a paper thing. i want to finish the answer. i want to stop 76,000 people from buying gunsillegally. if you think we are going to do paperwork prosecutions you are wrong. >> joining me now is senator. feinstein. it seemed very emotional. >> it was very emotional and then dr. begg who was a trauma doctor who took care of some of the young people who talked with us about what these weapons do and how they tear apart small bodies and interesting confrontations between senator and a great and awesome chief of police i thought. really a cop's cop. who knew what it was like on the streets. i think this is one of the issues piers. people say i have an ar 15 and i take good care of it. i say no problem. when you

came between senator lindsey graham who was acting inexplicably today and milwaukee police chief edward flynnlet's listen to this. >> just for the record from my point of view, senator -- >> how many cases have you made -- >> it doesn't matter. it's a paper thing. i want to stop 76 -- i want to finish the answer. >> well, no -- >> i want to stop 76,000 people from buying guns illegally. that's what a background check does. if you think we're going to do paperwork prosecutions, you're wrong. >> how many cases -- >> senator. if you would withhold just a moment, please. >> that's fine. >> please. no expressions one way or another. and let's keep this civil. senator graham and i just got recognized for civility. so i know he'll keep it civil. >> wow. but the most searing most of the day came when the father of a sandy hook elementary victim jesse lewis testified. neil heslin delivered testimony as he recalled saying good-bye to his 6-year-old son not long before the shooting. about an hour before we lost him. take a listen. >> i said good-bye, i love you. he stopped and he said i love mom, too. t

here is an exchange on the guns between senator lindsey graham and edward flynn. >> if it is such an important issue, why aren't we prosecuting people who fail the background check, and there are 15 questions there. they're not hard to understand if you're filling out the form. so i'm a bit frustrated that we say one thing, how important it is, but in the real world we do absolutely nothing to enforce the laws on the books. >> just for the record, from my perspective -- >> how many cases have you made? >> you know what? it doesn't matter. it is a paper thing, i want to finish the answer, i want to stop 76,000 people from buying guns -- buying guns illegally, if you think we're going to do paperwork prosecutions, you're wrong. >> joining me now, dianne feinstein, welcome, senator, tell me about what happened today. it seemed very emotional. >> it was very emotional. it began with the testimony of neil heslin, the father of a youngster who was the light of his life. who was killed. and it was very emotional. and then dr. begg, who was a trauma doctor, who took care of some of the young

. >> meanwhile, milwaukee, wisconsin,'s police chief edward flynn called out senator lindsey graham forarroting nra talking points regarding background checks. senator graham, who says he owns an ar-15 also says existing laws should be enforced. but flynn pointed out that he and other law enforcement officers aren't interested in paper chases. they're focused on preventing people from getting guns illegally. >> just for the record, for my point of view, senator, the purpose of the background check -- >> how many cases have you made? >> it doesn't matter. it's a paper thing. i want to stop 76 -- i want to finish the answer. >> no -- >> i want to stop 76,000 people from buying guns illegally. that's what a background check does. if you think we're going to do paperwork prosecutions, you're wrong. >> gun control advocates were given some hope last night. robin kelly, a candidate who proudly flaunted her "f" rating from the nra won the democratic primary in illinois's second congressional district, a seat left vacant by former congressman jesse jackson jr. kelly easily defeated her closest

sparked a testy exchange between south carolina senator lindsey graham and milwaukee police chief edward flynn. >> if it's such an important issue, why aren't we prosecuting people who fail a background check? and there are 15 questions there; they're not hard to understand if you're filling out the form. so i'm a bit frustrated that we say one thing-- how important it is-- but in the real world, we absolutely do nothing to enforce the laws on the books. now, let's talk... >> i-- you know, just for the record, from my point of view, senator, the purpose of the background check. >> how many cases have you made... how many cases have you made... >> you know what? it doesn't matter. it's a paper thing. i want to stop 76... >> well, can i ask the questions? >> i want to finish the answer. >> well, no. i'm... >> i want to stop 76,000 people from buying guns illegally. that's what a background does. if you think we're going to do paperwork prosecutions, you're wrong! >> reporter: the feinstein proposal is not expected to pass congress, given the opposition of the national rifle association, many rep

attorney john wa*rbl and police chief edward flynn argued vigorously nor the ban.columbine there were two armed security guards present who were unable to stop the carnage. flynn describing how he has lost seven officers to assault-type weapons. republicans scored points when they described how poorly the government enforces existing law. >> how many cases have you made nor somebody violating a background check? >> we don't make those cases, senator we have priorities waoerbgs we make gun cases, we make two thousand gun cases a year, sepblz senator, that is our proeu or the. we are not in a tpaeup chase. we are trying to prevent the wrong people buying guns. that's why we do background checks. >> he told the hearing like 4 million other americans he owns an ar15, one of the rifles that would be banned under the law. senator grassley pointed out that the justice department could not credit the first assault weapons ban with any of the nation's recent drop in gun violence. jon. jon: interesting exchanges there, doug mcelway, thanks. jenna: as we struggle with the fal

senator lindsey graham and milwaukee police chief edward flynn on capitol hill yesterday where testimony the very least background checks got emotional. >> there were fireworks. >> fireworks and tears. >> hearings like this is when i would go back into the cloak room and pick my fantasy football league. i'm joking. this was an exciting one. >> it was extremely -- >> let's just go to the headline. i'm looking at drudge. only one matt drudge. look at this. he's got the president very angry. threatened. i'm going to do this to make you mad. look at that. >> don't do that. i love bob and i would like him to come on the show to talk to me about this. i'm not feeling it. an aide from the white house writes an e-mail saying he's going to regret something and this is after they're screaming at each other on the phone. can i tell you that we do that when we're asking questions and it gets heated with the white house or with a senator or with someone, powerful ceo, people push back on both sides. bob woodward has been writing books for white house pushed back. is he afraid of a little aide that sa

i will also introduce chief edward flynn. he has a long career of leadership in public safety. he has been the chief of the milwaukee police department since 2008. he commands an agency of 2000 sworn in officers and 700 civilians. previously he served as secretary of public safety in massachusetts under governor mitt romney. he oversaw the massachusetts state police and the department of corrections. he has also served as chief of police in springfield and chelsea, massachusetts, and in arlington, virginia. he is a member of the police executive research forum. he is a member of harvard, connecticut school of policing. if the two of you will go ahead. keep the remarks to five minutes so there is an opportunity for questioning. >> [inaudible] >> could you activate the mike? there is a button right there. >> it is a privilege to present the views of the department of justice on the need to protect american public by eliminating -- access to dangerous military -style weapons and magazines. reasonable limitations on these weapons are supported by a majority of americans. the depart