laughter] somebody, i was listening to something last night, matt edwards has written a book about edward r. murrow, his idol, and i was amazed to learn that he didn't go to stanford the way he cede -- said, he didn't have a degree the way he said. he was a nice working class boy from seattle or what have you and felt that he didn't have the credits, so he invented them. and then when he no longer had to, i mean, after the war report, he changed it and came clean. but in the beginning he felt in order to be in that crowd he had to, you know, give himself some false props, as hay say. -- as they say. but, and he was, you know, a stellar reporter who subsequently, i think, left rather disappointed the way journalism was changing. but anyway, if you have a tough of, tough heart and a very sharp mind, just go in it and see what happens. but it's a dangerous field now. for independent thinking, i mean. do you think the supreme court should have been more specific in the implementation of its order rather than all deliberate speed? i suppose, but it wasn't going to happen, so it might as well have said a

edward r. murrow would broadcast what's my line came from there. but goldberg's came from there. unfortunately sometime later in the 1950s when television sets got better, people realized that when the screen was shaking, it wasn't their set. it was a vibrations from the trains moving in and out of the terminal. so the cbs studio had to move over to west 57th street, where it is still today. they were great trains like the 20th century limited. we all know about red carpet treatment. the term which goes back to ancient times was popularized on the 20th century limited. every night when the train left for chicago, porters would roll out a red carpet, the full length of the platform, and passengers would go down the carpet on the way to the tree but it was like traveling on the queen mary or the queen elizabeth but just going across country. an amazing thing and hard to imagine today. standard time was born at grand central terminal. there were something like 100 different time zones in the united states, until charles dowd who was a boarding school principal and later became skidm

. >> osgood: in 1957, penny recalled those early days for edward r. murrowram person to person. >> i, being a country boy and not acquainted with city ideas, my first, as you know, started in a town of 1,000 people. i chose that because i felt i could get to the hearts of the people quicker in a small town than i could in a large wn >> osgood: indeed he could. j.c. penney's first store made a pretty penny from the start. over time he bought out his partners, opened more stores and eventually put his own name on the sign. by offering low prices and fair the sign. by offering low prices and fair value, he became a top retailer while playing down any notion that he was a born salesman. >> i don't believe salesmen are born. i think that's a thing that must be acquired. >> osgood: j.c. penney died in 1971 as the age of 95. but his stores prospered for years. attracting a visit from prince charles and prince diana in 1985. and providing a familiar all american back drop for time travel in the 1985 film "back to the future." the j.c. penney's own road to the future

holmes' attorneys have but interests of reporters like john roberts, when doctor edward r. murrow.now you relied on confidential sources, this is matter of great interest to the public. i will protect your identity if you provide me with this information. apparently that is what happened in this case. this judge says, the first amendment doesn't prevail and i want her on the stand. when she goes on the stand and refuses under the shield law in the state of colorado to provide the information, i will put that young journalist in jail. i don't think that is going to happen in this case. >> john: one other quick point. this notebook that was sent to a doctor, the center of the case here over whether or not he had any violent tendencies before he shot all those people. has the case moved beyond that? in the middle of last week new facts were revealed regarding dr. lynn in which she talked about the threat that holmes appeared to be, that he talked about doing violence, he threatened her -- is this a moot point? >> it is a moot point. you could argue the case right now, john. it is a mo

journalism school, also racked up quite a bit of debt, fred friendly was the former producer for edward r. murrowry door until one opens is what he did, it is what i did, i bet it is what all of you did. >> excellent. >> the last word, sorry, edie, out of time. we'll do this again, i'm sure, another time soon. appreciate it to everybody. edie hill, joey levy, ahmed eldon and lauren ashburn, thanks to all of you. appreciate it. >>> it is world autism day. and more than 1 million kids are affected. that's 1 in 88 children. coming up next hour, we'll talk with actress holly robinson peete, her son was diagnosed with autism. you'll hear from her live in about half an hour. [ male announcer ] this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again. and now i've got to take more pills. ♪ yup. another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. ♪ [ male announcer ] look for the easy-o