emily: you think the russian government is behind edward snowden?eneral alexander: i would not go that far. i think that today, clearly, he is doing something that would have russia keep him there. he would deny it, and russia would deny it, because it is in their interest to do so. emily: for millennials, snowden has become the idea of conscience. he is in exile. in russia. he still talks to audiences in the united states. he can come back and do speeches. are you outraged by this? general alexander: you see, here is the issue. this is where you and others can help. we sensationalized snowden, but we did not explain what the government was doing in the way that people could understand, so the perception was the government is listening to your phone calls and reading your e-mails, and we now know that is not true. emily: so what is the full story? general alexander: exactly what has occurred with the data program, the metadata program. in that program, all of the information goes into a vault, and the government can only look at it when in prove it

whose side is edward snowden really on? question demanding new answers in berlin. the former u.s. intelligence contractor released classified documents act in 2013. some which revealed the nsa was eavesdropping on germany's own agencies. a high-ranking german intelligence, snowden may not be the u.s. patriot that he wants the world to see. >> the committee was working late last night, questioning the head of the intelligence service. thele in supplying information o the united's dates. but it went way off-topic. i really enjoyed it. >> of them looking forward to this day for two years. he told the committee he thought edward snowden, who has temporary asylum might be a russians five trying to drive a wedge between the united states and europe. they offered no evidence to back this up. >> it is one thing to draw up conspiracy theories and quite another to go public with them especially if you are president of a german government body. you need to provide evidence. >> it was not an exercise in humility. perhaps he was thinking that offense is the best defense. the discussion continu

, you may go down in history as the guy who was the head of the nsa during the revelations of edward snowdenhow do you feel about that? general alexander: it gives snowden too much credit. what he divulged, one, was something that was approved by court order, approved by congress and the executive branch. and what the investigations found was the nsa was doing exactly what it was supposed to. so he revealed a classified program meant to protect our country. nsa does not get to choose who classifies it. that is the executive branch. and that is a congressional and court decision. nsa's responsibility is to conduct that. and there is legal precedence for doing that. and it was the right thing, when you look at the number of terrorist attacks. so i think what he did was he thought he was better than all three. and the press treated him like that. they treated him as a hero. and here is a guy who will ultimately cause a lot of lives to be lost. that debate was going on in congress at the same time. do you make it public? that is a debate outside of nsa. emily: you think the paris attacks could h

emily: tell me about your relationship with edward snowden. kim: i think he is a hero.dmire him for his courage. he will be remembered in history as one of the great people of our time. emily: what is he up to now? kim: he is happy, he is fine. he is in russia. i think he is pleased that the debate has been triggered, based on the good things he has done. especially to americans. emily: when it comes to china, iran, islamic terrorists, the united states government, what are you most worried about when it comes to spying, hacking? kim: i am worried about the situation in ukraine. i think putin is someone i would be very careful with. i think that obama has done a good thing in negotiating with iran and trying to find a resolution to this nuclear standoff. emily: what about some of the other countries? like north korea and sony? should we be concerned about north korea? kim: well, you do not really believe that north korea hacked sony. i do not believe that for a minute. emily: who did, then? kim: well, some sophisticated group that has an interest in what hollywood is do

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. >> edward snowden is the row bow cop of whistleblowers. first here is what's happening on the next "kennedy." >> hello, "red eye" run aways. i will poach andy levey from your show and force him to talk about ebony williams and raid quo head. and judge napolitano joins me with news from the supreme court. we'll throw freedom all over your face. >>> live from america's news headquarters i'm kelly wright. good morning. here's what is happening. new financial worries for the uk this morning following the vote to leave the european union. fitch ratings has down graded the top credit grade from double a plus to just double a. and standard and pours and dropping the sovereign rating rating from triple-a to double-a. the down grades could add further turmoil to the already shaky markets including wall street and both agencies warn further down grades with still possible. abortion activists say it could take years for some of the 20 plus clinics shutdown by restrictions in texas to reopen. texas had 41 abortion facilities in 2013 when the republica

qaeda in iran, in the 2006 or 2009 period in iraq this organization has benefited if people like edward snowdeneing able to use different apps and put themselves into an area to evade more protection. >> viewing the situation in this country, that is the freedom we possess in spite of the fact this guy had been questioned by the fbi in 2013 and 2014. i think can we expect we're just sitting ducks now? >> well, to some degree, you know, in the nature of our society is that, we have, a civil law enforcement agency. the fbi does not have the pourer, the protection that european intelligence has. >> what is the difference? >> warrants, the constitution, british domestic intelligence, politicians can give a warrant to be inclusive on a target and individual. >> why does that make it better? >> i'm with you on that. the cost of that is is that it becomes harder for the fbi. so unfortunately what we have to do -- >> it's happening more and more. it happened with the jahar tsarnaev brothers. >> we're in an era that is allowing this to metatstatize. i would say the critical point is, as long as isis up

they said he was ready to pardon edward snowden and that's hard for those who are tough on the war on terror. they loved his position on liberal issues, but -- >> social issues in particular. >> he believes that a viable fetus should have the right to life. he is also very strict on the ideas that democrats will not like. he has trouble with both sides. >> what about another third party and somebody else could come in and may have establishment people do it and no takers. is that going anywhere? >> no takers because this is a grass roots movement. they come together and get the agenda out there to carry it. if you do get an ugh low campaign on both sides, you can see maybe gary johnson or libertarian as a third party candidate doing better. in some states that could make a difference because what you see is stealing votes in the state like new hampshire if the election is close. some democrats can't abide by it. >> you can see that. >> gary johnson at 10%. >> all you need is 10 or 15. the primary voters elected the two most despised politicians in america. general interest voters or c

when a cry goes up about the nsa or about edward snowden or something, a lot of people practically justhrug, like, "yeah, yeah, probably-- you're probably listening to my cell calls." that's crazy, but that's the state that we're in now. anybody can hack into anything. - his was the easiest to hack. password was 123456seven. i witnessed his first "i love you" with angela over gchat. then i witnessed the first of many infidelities with stella b. - everything about us is all digital. it's all in a cloud. now you can go get somebody's social security, fingerprints, images, everything. you can literally take over their entire life. that's frightening. it's not like they're talking about it in science-fiction terms. what they're tackling is something that's actually currently, right now happening. narrator: coming up on "mr. robot_dec0d3d," we'll take a deeper look at the rise of hacking culture... - there's always been a little bit of wish fulfillment to hacker stories in that they are the sort of modern superheroes. narrator: and learn how a hollywood movie alerted a president to the dange

he said he was willing to pardon edward snowden. about the war on terror. for democrats yeah, they love the position. he believes a viable fetus has a right to life. he also has strict fiscal responsibility ideas that democrats won't like. he has trouble appealing to both sides. >> what about another? there is chatter in the beltway that maybe somebody else could come in, an establishment republican. people asked mitt romney to do it. no takers. is that going back? >> there are no takers. this is a grassroots movement of dozens of scholars in new york and washington. coming together to get their agenda out there. find the main stream candidate. >> that's a populist movement. that's not goeng anywhere. the thing is if you do get an ugly campaign on both sides you could see maybe gary johnson or the libertarians, a third party candidate coming out, maybe doing better than 3%, 4%. in some states that could make a difference. what you would be seeing is maybe stealing votes in a state like new hampshire if the election is close. democra

because there's -- the show is about the nature of privacy and sort of post edward snowden world andgs in social media and things like that as well. and we want -- and there's a lot of kind of interactions that go on on stage that we want people to be able to be part of in the audience and kind of like play along. there's a poll at some point. you can e-mail stuff to us during the show. i don't want to say too much. because it's very -- if we put it off, it will be really cool and unique. but yeah, bring your phone, turn them on. you can keep them charging. it's all good. >> seth: wow, now are you someone that historically enjoys a show that asks for audience participation? >> um, yeah, i mean, to a certain extent. i think it depends like how comfortable i am with the whole thing. i imagine like my parents -- my parents are people that would like shrink away from that. so, unless -- but i promised like, don't worry, i'm not going to be getting them up on stage during the show. it would be awkward. suddenly i'm on stage acting with my parents. this is some kind of bizarre dream. >> se

. >> and phil, about two years ago we all became experts in what meta data is after edward snowden's revelations. right now that meta data is likely, i'm guessing, being pulled for this individual, omar mateen. they're trying to find out who he was in contact with. explain what that process might be like. >> well, jake, just think about your every day life. when you're transferring money, paying checks via your online bank account, for example, when you're e-mailing, texting,face booj messages. all this is digital. it allows you to figure out a spider web. who do you talk to? where did you travel to? where do you get money from? as soon as you get the identification of the name, you can go to phone companies, internet service providers, and without putting people on the street, say does he have an immediate circle of people he talked to. one of the most interesting questions below the radar, where did he travel to? as soon as i see a travel pattern, i say, was he trained by somebody or were there co-conspirators? all that stuff allows you to draw a picture of a spider web in a way yo

he is known for interviewing edward snowden when he was in hong kong. and also his response to the brexit vote where he faced a barrage of protests and a boycott by a series of politicians including scotland's , first minister. trump commented on the brexit votete during a nenews c confert his trtrump turnberry gogolf re. >> nobody y knows. if the town goes down, , they're going to do more business. more people are coming to turnberry, frankly. ththe pound has g gone down. lelet's s see what the impact of that is. i think places like scotland and england and different places in great britain, i think you're going to see a lot of activity. withdonald trump saying the pound going down, that would be good for his golf course. can you respond? >>'s visit has just been relentless comedy, i'm afraid. those who think he might become president of the united states need to worry. he arrived and said, what a greatt -- he is in scotland. scotland voteded to remain. scotland will probably now leave the united kingdom. as for what he said about the pound falling bei

edward snowden.e know for a fact that it's skilled and capable of using encrypted information in ways that make detection hard in the europe and united states. it is a profound challenge and a great concern that you cannot penetrate those communications then you will see these continuing attacks. >> doug, to tom's point though if you are going to call it terror, you are going to call it hate. in terms of trying to give up privacy to figure out who is carrying out attacks isn't it helpful to add islamic terrorism into this, call it what it is in the sense of being able to give the fbi and others a little bit better feel for what they are looking for? in the same way they coordinated statements calling it terror and hate the word islamic didn't enter into what the president said or what hillary clinton said either. >> i support them saying terror and hate now. this is the challenge the administration has versus us talking on tv. they need to get it right. i am confident in the days that come ahead. dir

well, it's easy enough to do that given what's happened over the last two or three years after edward snowden's revelations, because the intelligence community access to the metadata about telephone calls and the like so that it would tell who was communicating with whom. that's extraordinary thing to have if you want to be able to look at the activities of people. and it was the same kind of notion that fritz was talking about. people thought, well, if i scoop up enough of this material, then somewhere i'm going to find important things. and having all the material is really tempting. to go beyond what the original thought was. and so it's not -- it's not the kind of technology that is employed. it's the notion that you can sweep everything in and then work from that. >> in a little while, we are going to see 40 minutes of charles huston testifying about the huston plan. but first we would like to show another short clip. this is arizona republican senator barry goldwater. and he is talking about the internal revenue service in this clip. let's watch. >> senator goldwater? >> thank you, mr. ch

he talked about the divided opinion over edward snowden.i'm uncomfortable saying it was a public service because he exposed secrets about intelligence gathering and intelligence work that puts americans and people in the world at risk. so, you can look and say i'm glad we know about these things more, but it should not have happened that way and he did it with a recklessness that has put lives at risk and i'm not comfortable with that and never will be. tom: the secretary of state with emily chang and brad stone. with us.vridis admiral, you have been way out front in this discussion. way out front of me. how is our budgeting of cyber security? are you guys broke in terms of getting smarter on this to defend america? adm. stavridis: i always say that cyber is the biggest challenge we face. if you think about what i worried about as the supreme allied commander in nato, it was iraq, syria, libya, the balkans, piracy, etc. was kept me awake at night cyber. our level of preparation is completely mismatched to the level of threat. we have to put

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i was wondering what your definition would, i mean thinking to edward snowden, chelsea manning, sterling, to enjail someone outside of the country, would you define them as whistle blowers or would you define them in a different way? >> dr. west -- >> did i put you on the spot too much? i appreciate your reflections. >> i would define whistle blowers those who come forward with statute of whistle blowing activity to the appropriate lead ers to add -- ajudicate those manners . in one case someone who is accused or convicted of violating code of military justice and in some other cases violations of federal law. i believe those individuals had a pathway of command to report on doing f they saw wrong doing, they should have taken it and if they took into and reported it to the appropriate authorities, they should have been protected as we should protect whistle blowers who report wrong doing through channels. >> thank you very much. we really appreciate your testimony. >> thank you, sir. >> ladies and gentlemen, our last witness is engram. same. thank you mr. chairman, mr. mr. sang. obvious

i'm thinking of edward snowden. my dear brothers and sisters, chelsea manning, my dear brother jeffrey sterling. two in jail, one outside of the country. would you define them as whistleblowers or in a different way? >> dr. west -- >> i put you on the spot too much. >> very penetrating question. >> i appreciate your reflections. >> i would define whistleblowers as those individuals who come forward consistent with the statutes for the appropriate authorities with the appropriate clearances to adjudicate. it's my understanding that our government has designated mr. snowden and before him, private manning to be not whistleblowers. to be in one case someone accused of violating the military justice and someone accused of violating federal law. i believe there is a pathway through the chain of command or the bureaucracies to report wrongdoing. if they saw wrongdoing they should have taken it. if they reported it to the appropriate authorities they should have been protected as we protect whistleblowers who report wrongd

i'm thinking of edward snowden. my dear brothers and sisters, chelsea manning, my dear brother jeffrey sterling. two in jail, one outside of the country. would you define them as whistleblowers or in a different way? >> dr. west -- >> i put you on the spot too much. >> very penetrating question. >> i appreciate your reflections. >> i would define whistleblowers as those individuals who come forward consistent with the statutes for the appropriate authorities with the appropriate clearances to adjudicate. it's my understanding that our government has designated mr. snowden and before him, private manning to be not whistleblowers. to be in one case someone accused of violating the military justice and someone accused of violating federal law. i believe there is a pathway through the chain of command or the bureaucracies to report wrongdoing. if they saw wrongdoing they should have taken it. if they reported it to the appropriate authorities they should have been protected as we protect whistleblowers who report wrongd

edward snowden, and he wouldn't even take the e-mails because he didn't think there was a story. and then snowden, the traitor, gave him the story, and he pretends that he discovered it. he didn't. he just got in touch with the right leaker. so, you can get into a journalist's ear very easily, and you guys will break a lot of stories by developing a reputation or catching their ears. so, we're going to talk about the national news cycle, how to get in it and hearts and minds, and i'm bedford. so, conservatives for decades complained and complained and complained, or actually are still complaining. there's a professional grievance institution on the right, which is why they get their butts kicked so often, about how the media wasn't on our side and they weren't getting heard and nobody was listening to them, and they were, you know, now you see it, the modern incarnation is the hashtag. like, for years, conservatives mocked the president for having hashtags, like #bringbackourgirls, which bought back like four of the early abused women years later? hashtags do nothing and now they

i was wondering if it was edward snowden, my dear brother, sister, chelsea manning. 2 outside of the country. would you define them as whistleblowers, or would you define them in a different way? did i put you on the spot too much? >> that is a penetrating question. dr. west: i appreciate your reflections. >> i would find those that come forward consistent with the statutes for protection over slowing activity to the appropriate authorities, with the appropriate clearances to adjudicate those matters. it's my understanding that the government has the donated mr. snowden, and before him, private manning, to be not whistleblowers. to be, in one case, someone who is accused and convicted of violating the code of military justice, and in another, someone violating federal law. i believe those individuals had a pathway through their chains of command to report wrongdoing. if they saw wrongdoing, they should have taken it. if they took that and reported it to the authorities, they should have been protected, as we should protect whistleblowers through channels. dr. west: thank you very muc

they tried to get in touch with him for months edward snowden and they wouldn't take the e-mails because he didn't think it was a story. and snowden, traitor, gave him the story and he pretends he discovered it. he didn't. he got in touch with the right leaker. you can get in a journalist's ear very easily and you will break a lot of stories by developing verification or catching their ears, so we're going to talk about the national news cycle and how to get in it and hearts and minds. so, conservatives for decades complained and complained and complained and are actually still complaining. there's a professional grievance institution at the -- on the right which is why they get their butts kicked so often about how the media wasn't on our side and they weren't getting heard and nobody was listening to them and now you see the modern incarnation is the hash tag. for years conservatives mocked the president for having hash tags, like bring back our girls which brought back four thoroughly abused women and they think they will stop trump with a twitter hash tag. the better thing to do is t

they tried to get in touch with him for months edward snowden and they wouldn't take the e-mails because he didn't think it was a story. and snowden, traitor, gave him the story and he pretends he discovered it. he didn't. he got in touch with the right leaker. you can get in a journalist's ear very easily and you will break a lot of stories by developing verification or catching their ears, so we're going to talk about the national news cycle and how to get in it and hearts and minds. so, conservatives for decades complained and complained and complained and are actually still complaining. there's a professional grievance institution at the -- on the right which is why they get their butts kicked so often about how the media wasn't on our side and they weren't getting heard and nobody was listening to them and now you see the modern incarnation is the hash tag. for years conservatives mocked the president for having hash tags, like bring back our girls which brought back four thoroughly abused women and they think they will stop trump with a twitter hash tag. the better thing to do is t

. >>> nsa leaker edward snowden seen in new york city in his so-called snow bot device.in the big apple. had him accept awards at the tribeca film festival and addressed columbia university. i'm sure they were thrilled to hear from them. well, he controls that bot from moscow where he's been taking refuge since 2013. what do you think about that? >>> take a look at this, a dunkin' donuts employee caught on camera, gross, dropping a tray of doughnuts on the floor and then putting it right back on a rack like nothing ever h f happened. get this, it was a manager. dunkin' met with her to tell her the doughnuts should have been thrown away. >>> an incredible reunion going viral. a soldier serving overseas for 4 1/2 years surprises his mom. her reaction will warm your heart. watch. [ screaming ] that's army specialist kyle crack surprising his mom in utah. even he was blown away by the motional response. your moms are always thrilled to see you. >> best video of the morning. awesome. >> terrific. thank you. >>> coming up, don't ever tell a woman i like your shoes. why? becaus

white house and the former attorney general not on the same page when it comes to the nsa leaker edward snowdenuse said that's not the president's take. both agree that snowden should come back from russia to face charges. >>> want to get elected to congress? marry the lawmaker you hope to replace. alan grayson married a doctor who is running for his congressional seat as he runs to take a senate seat. grayson was involved in a bigamy case when he discovered his ex-wife was married to somebody else after 24 years together. >>> donald trump not holding back his disdane for the media. >> when i raise money -- excuse me, i have watched you on television. you're real beauty. but what i don't want when i raise millions of dollars have people say like this sleazy guy right over here from abc. he's a sleaze in my book. because you know the facts well. >> is this what it will be like covering you if you're president? >> yeah. >> does this work with the voters? let's ask frank luntz. >> you know, he called me a slob which was accurate. this is back about a year ago. i am, look at me. the problem is he c

they are remissed to do more in the area of edward snowden.he government. would you like to have him come before you and lay out what they are doing? >> sure. like i said, you don't know if somebody is going to do a terrorist act or become a terrorist until they take that first step. >> the first step often happens on the internet. it happens on facebook. we have sort of accepted this resignation. it's all over david ignatius' face. there's a set of things that can be done in the social media space. >> but again, though, and i totally agree with you, but, mika, we talked about it before and we talked about it before donald trump talked about this muslim ban. if the fight against isis is going to be won, it is not going to be won simply by putting 10,000, 20,000 boots on the ground in syria. it's going to be won by muslim americans who feel like they are every bit as american as you and me, and when they see something, they say something. why? because they're americans. every bit as much as we're americans. and that is something that gets lost

he has ever done and you may agree, disagree with the wording he said about eric snowden doing public service. >> edwardbut he did bring to light, mr. snowed den, the government sometimes plays fast and loose with their own rules, with their own directives, with their own ways they are supposed to do things. >> yeah. >> what happened here is, i will use the word disgusting. it is a lie. they told a lie to the people, not in a, she actually didn't say anything wrong. she said sometimes there needs to be privacy and this is a good example. she told the truth, yes, you're correct, she told james rosen the truth. harris: in any negotiation. >> then they cut it out and it is like someone needs to get their hand slapped. sandra: you say they're playing fast and loose with their own rules, what they're saying there was no rules against this. you're making case why it was wrong but they're actually saying there were no rules specifically barring this type of scrubbing but now they're going to put in place new rules so it doesn't happen again. >> i think there should be accountability. how far is the state depar

if you are a whistleblower like snowden,wden -- edward he becomes a terrible figure who has committedon and not allowed back in the country and he is a whistle our who gave this tremendous amount of information. but what happens to our privacy? the government undermined our privacy. destroyed. is we should know whether government is going. we should not punish the people who tell us the truth. there was a cia agent that revealed about the torture and how we were breaking the law and torturing people, which added fuel to the fire of eastern hatred towards us. and he was the only one that was punished over the torture issue. he went to prison because he told us the truth about what is going on. we need to make sure that the government is open but we need the government much smaller. the government is so big no one even knows what is going on. i don't think the president even keeps up with the cia because the cia is so secretive and monetary policy is personally secretive, so there is way too many secrets and they are protecting interests of the state, the rights of the state, the rights